Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 Hare Krishna ! To the moderator, can you please post the attached ? Best wishes, Bhakti Ananda Goswami "Bhakti Ananda E.O.H.N." bhakti.eohn INDOLOGY Fw: Jagganatha, Subhadra, Baladeva edited Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:14:05 -0700 - Bhakti Ananda E.O.H.N. INDOLOGY Saturday, June 16, 2001 6:14 PM Fw: Jagganatha, Subhadra, Baladeva in Egypt and Judea etc. Second edited reply to postng email inquiries Esteemed scholars, JAGGANATHA AS PURUSHA, LORD OF PURI AND PURUSHA SUKTA BASED CIVILIZATION The evidence for this is so vast, that teams of experts could spend decades just establishing the interdisciplinary parameters of the evidential basis of the discipline. The study of these Purusha / Polieus / PR ASU connections will, i am sure, one day develope into an entire field. One could spend a lifetime just identifying the Purusha / Polieus related PUR settlements in the ancient world. In my own brief investigation i found hundreds in Europe (BUR, BER, POL etc.), the Near East (PER, YIR, IR etc.), Egypt (PER) and India (PUR). My following assertions are easy to verify. These things are not obscure and the evidence is well known in the various disciplines. Simply stated, there is such pervasive misinformation and prejudice abounding on all sides, that no one is either asking the relevant questions, or looking in the right places for the evidence they need to understand what i have seen, and am trying to describe to you. Simply stated, the Sacramental Social Order of Purusha's PUR in the East, is directly analogous to that of Polieus in the Greek Culture, and that of ASU (Osiris) as the PER related Nome Districts Deity in Egypt. Among the Semites the same system is associated with Eli's multi-Form in the Sacred Cities called PER / YIR / IR etc. These Heliopolitan POL / PER / YIR / BURY (Northern Europe) cities were generally members of the Heliopolitan Alliances, or Asyla Federations. They worshiped the same Deity and His Shekinah / Shakti in a variety of local and 'universal' Forms. Regarding the worship of the Semitic Eli-Asherah-Baal as Jagganatha-Subhadra-Baladeva in Puri, and Horus-Sekhet-SKR (Asar-Baal) in Egypt. AN INTRODUCTION TO THE WORSHIP OF JAGGANATHA, SUBHADRA AND BALADEVA IN THE PROTO-CATHOLIC MEDITERRANEAN HELIOPOLITAN ASYLA FEDERATIONS c copyright Bhakti Ananda Goswami, 6-15-01 The Historical Identity of the God of the Hebrews, Israelites and Jews. What are the sources for establishing the historical identity of a deity worshiped by a specific people, or in an inter-ethnic religious tradition? In the Mediterranean Region, we have a vast resource, due to the culture, durable materials used, and the climate which has also helped to preserve evidence. Practices like votive burials and foundation deposits have also contributed to evidence (despite moral objections to disturbing these). The abundant sacred art of the region is available for study, from monumental forms to miniature. Literacy in the region has provided a similarly large body of ancient written evidence to study. Since scholars usually specialize, unfortunately, those working in one field are often unfamiliar with advances being made in other fields. The more recent trend to interdisciplinary studies has helped to somewhat correct this problem. Still, it must be noted throughout the following, that speciality myopia is continuing to obscure facts that become readily apparent, as soon as broader more interdisciplinary comparisons are made. Even an atheist must admit that the worship of a deity is real, even if the deity isn't. I am a devoted person, but my approach to the following is not to prove the transcendant existance of God, it is only to establish His HISTORICAL identity among His worshippers. In the ancient world, transcendant forms of monotheism were typically inter-racial. If we study the evidence regarding the Jewish Deity, we discover His symbol system was identical to that of the Heliopolitan Monotheisms of Egypt and Europe. His Names and numerous By-names are likeswise found in Africa, Europe, and elsewhere. There were Heliopolitan Religious Alliances for thousands of years in the region, which included Europeans, Semites and Africans. Originally, Helios was not merely or even primarily a mundane 'solar deity'. This exclusive 'solar' association is a late corruption of His Tradition. Classicists admit that the monotheistic worship of Helios was incredibly ancient, and already greatly compromised by the classical period. The Pythagoreans, Platonists, Asclepiadae and Orphics were all known to worship Helios as Supreme. Scholars of Greek Religion recognize some shift in this tradition occurring, which they associate with some appropriation of Helios related traditions, by the late Homeric-related 'solar' demigod Apollo. The late tradition of Apollo is a strange amalgam of Heliopolitan Idealism and transcendance, with gross Homeric-related mythological elements. To understand the East-West connections i am presenting, this point must be understood. It is the Philosophical, Ascetic Tradition of Heliopolitan Monotheism that i am comparing to Sattvic Vaishnavism etc. not the late corrupt Homeric type polytheism. Among the Proto-Jewish Western Semites, the two most frequently occuring Deity Names appearing in the Scriptures (and elsewhere), are ELI and YAHU. These Names compounded occurr early in the Bible as ELOAH and later as ELIYAHU. In Greek this is HELI-US or HELIOS. In Egypt, the compound Deity Name is HR-ASU or 'HORUS'. But, their are primarily TWO HORUSES IN EGYPT. The first is HERU-UR, HR-WER, HAROEIS, or 'HERU THE ELDER' . He actually was also worshipped in a child form, the term 'Elder' being associated with His being the original, not 'older' form. He is the Supreme God of pre and early dynastic Egypt. Osiris is considered an alter-form or 'brother' of His. The second primary 'Horus' is the son of Isis and Osiris. This is the 'solar' form most commonly associated with apollo in late sources. In the earliest Semitic sources YAHU is associated with 'solar' ELI-BAAL to the extent that Baal is now considered to have originally been a By-name of Yahu. Baal is also called the 'son' of Eli, or considered one of His principle alter-forms. Thus ELI-YAHU (BAAL) is the historical Deity (Supreme Father and Savior God) of the Proto-Jews. Eli is the Father of the so-called Semitic Pantheon and Yahu-Baal is the Enemy of chaos, evil and death. Yahu-Baal is the descending Savior of Humanity. A careful comparison of HERU-ASU (Osiris) and ELI-YAHU (Baal) traditions with Heliopolitan Monotheism, shows clear connections. While local and periodic 'myths' vary, the theology seems to have remained consistant accross large areas from century to century. Not only is ELI consistantly worshiped with BAAL-YAHU, but this Deity has scores of local Forms and By-names, which can be discovered through studying artifacts and theophoric personal names in the Hebrew and Greek Jewish Scriptures. Futhermore, He was worshiped with a feminine Counterpart (Chokmah / Shekinah or Asherah), Who also had numerous, varied, local Forms and By-names. It is specifically the separated , corrupted worship of Asherah and Baal that is related to the corrupted form of Shaivism and Shakism in the East. Since Baal is identified with Dionysos (and later Jesus Christ), we can understand the root of the controversy between the ascetic Heliopolitan Asklepius / Dionysos / Christ worshippers, and the hedonistic Maenad-related false Dionysos, or 'anti-christ' (corrupted Baal) worshipers.( more on this below at the end of this letter.) Thus, throughout the region, for thousands of years among Semites the religion of ELI-YAHU and Their Feminine 'Shekinah' was dominant. It was closely related to HERI-ASU and SEKHET worship among the Egyptians, and HELI-OS (Dionysos) and HEKATE worship among the Greeks. These three indigenous developments from the Primal Monotheism, were all connected with the 'Bridal Mysticism' cultus of Helios as Meghistos Kouros, and His Shekinah / Chokmah, RHODA, on the Sacred Lotus Isle of Rhodes. The inter-racial, monotheistic cultus of Rhoda & Kouros Helios is clearly related to that of the Vaishnava's Radha and Krishna. The Same Deity and Feminine Divine in Africa In Egypt, ELI was called HR which has been variously vocalized. ' Heru' is common among Egyptologists at present, but considering Greek HELI, Semitic ELI, Ali, Uri, Ori, Ari, Latin Sole, Hurrian Hurri etc i have chosen to use HERI. Yahu was called ASU in North Egypt and Wasu in the South. HERI-ASU ( 'HORUS the ELDER and OSIRIS) was worshiped with His Feminine Divine Sekhet, under hundreds of local Names and Forms. Again, as in the Levant, this was the dominant monotheism of the entire region for thousands of years. It is the symbol system of this Egyptian tradition which is used on all Proto-Jewish, and later Israelite, Judahite and 'Jewish' artifacts. The Jews did not emply a separate symbol system for their Deity, simply because He was not a separate Deity. Thus these recognizably Vaishnava related religious symbols connecting Jewish, Greek and Egyptian Heliopolitan Monotheism are commonly found on the royal and state seals etc. of the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah. The DJED or TET is one such inter-national religious symbol related to the Heliopolitan Tradition. 'Djed' type Forms of ELI, BAAL and ASHERAH have been found in Israel, with some clearly related to the extremely ancient worship of Jericho. These are the 'Palm Trunk' type Djed 'Pillars". What Did Heri / Eli - Asu / Yahu and Shekinah / Sekhet Look Like in Egypt and the Levant?... The Dje Dje 'Pillars' Considering the regional long-term prominence of this inclusive monotheism, one could expect to find certain related icons in abundance, and these have been found in both the Levant and Egypt. Both Semiticists and Egyptologists are confounded by the strange 'Dje Dje' or 'Djed' 'Pillars', carved, painted, moulded, minted, created out of glass, enamel, precious metals and stones, worn as amulets, in temples, on royal and commoners' belongings etc. throughout the region. They explain the popularity of these almost an-iconic 'deities' as due to the persistant royal and mass devotion to OSIRIS-BAAL in this form as the a Universal Savior Deity. Since the HERI-Osiris (ASU / WASU / YAHU ) Black DJED Form is worshiped with a similar White Form (SKR-BAAL) and a Feminine Asherah Form, these are collectively refered to as Djed Pillars. These Forms are usually armless and legless with painted-on or low relief features. They may be depicted dressed or garlanded and are oftened shown being worshiped by humans and/or animals. The compound 'Osiris Crown', Hemhemet or Atef crown-of-many-crowns is often adorning Them. This reinforces that they are aspects or persons of the same Deity. When this same unique crown is seen on HERI-ASU's other Forms such as the Cosmic AMUN and ATEN, the Lion Headed AMEN-RA and Helios Phanes, it is a sure identifier of the God-of gods. I have traced the Dje Dje Crown to Kush / Meroe in Africa, Persia, India and all the way in Vaishnavisn and related Pure Land Buddhism, to Japan and Angkor Wat. Heri-ASAR / Osiris was called NTR 'Lord' for thousands of years. The Coptic Egyptian form of NTR is NOUTI (compare Jagga-NATHA 'Lord'). The Djed Form of ASAR / Osiris was associated with His Cosmic Sacrifice in the battle between Good / Order and Evil / Chaos. As the Cosmic Form of HERI-ASU, the Djed 'Pillar' often had siderial time-keeping symbols associated with it. Of course JAGAT in Sanskrit means 'universe'. The Black Body of the Cosmic Osiris was sometimes associated with the night sky Body of Father God or Time. When Jagganath as the cosmic Kala Purusha, has a black body, covered with stars, this is similar to the star-covered body of Osiris Djed, or His Shekinah as NEIT (night) in Egypt. Mediterranean region icons of the Cosmic form of ELI-AZAR / ASAR / OSIRIS, are clearly related to the Purusha Mandalas of the East. The Sacramental Social System of the region was also associated with Polieus / PR-ASU's Mystical Body. Certain Priests were associated with His Head or Mouth, the King with his 'right arm', etc, and celestial and terrestrial bodies and elements were all believed to be part of His Cosmic Manifestation (Sun as His right eye and Moon His left, His Phallus at the Temple of MN etc.) As the all-pervasive Soul of the Universe, He was ATM or AMN (ATMA or BRAHMAN). Many Names associated with his multi form can be identified in the1000 names of Vishnu, the 108 Names of Krishna, or Nara Hari etc. He was worshiped in every temple city-state as POLIEUS (PURUSHA). He was always worshiped with His Feminine Sekhet or Shekinah. When His Shekinah was worshiped with Him in various Forms sometimes it was as His Sister, not His Wife. (As with Athena and Apollo, Subhadra and Krishna.) In searching for the origin and meaning of these Forms, i read a vast amount of inscriptional as well a text material. I also studied the rites etc. associated with Djed worship. Several outstanding story elements connect Osiris Djed to Jagganatha specifically, one to NARA HARI and one to the Ramayana. When Isis is lamenting the murder of Her Divine Husband, she is cruelly shown a wax head made to look like His.(This element is also later connected to the Homeric Legends.) There is a tradition of this related to the story of Sita-Rama. Osiris is also revealed to a king, by His devotee, OUT OF A THRONE-ROOM PILLAR (Nara Hari Rupa). The elements of the Djed 'Pillar' story found in the cultus of Jagganatha, are in the BRAHMAN DARU story. For example, Osiris Djed assumed the Form of a giant log. In this DJED Log Form, he drifted up on the shore of a pious king, who took him to his palace. In the North ASAR -SKR and Sekhet are identified with the Southern Theban AMEN RA, KHONSHU and MUT. The greatest of the festivals of Amen, Mut and Khonshu involved Their travel between two sanctuaries. They were ceremonially pulled with ropes during this great public festival, in a ritual clearly related to Jagganatha's RATHA YATRA in PURI. I will summarize for you. Eli / Heri is Hari (Krishna). This is confirmed by my work on the Jewish-Rhodian Cultus Heliopolitan connections. Baal-Yahu (Asu / Wasu ) is Baladeva as Vasudeva or Vishnu. Shekinah is Shakti (Subhadra devi). Their worship as the Puri-like so-called 'Pillar' Forms was periodically dominant, and therefore common throughout the region among all races for thousands of years. Dje dje Nouti's / Jagganatha's cosmic mandorla / mandala forms as PR-ASU Purusha are related. His compound crown can be found from Kush in Africa all the way through India to Japan and Angkor Wat. The Sacramental Social Body of Djed Polieus is the Purusha-sukta related Varnashram Social Body of Vishnu as the self-sacrificed Cosmic Purusha. This was not originally devised as a system to enforce racial purity at all, but rather it was a same-race and then inter-racial social guild-like system for the specialization of labor, and the equitable exchange of goods and services in the social body of the PUR temple community, city-state and empire of federated city-states. Purusha PR-ASU was also associated with time and the asterim as KALAH PURUSHA. Solar, Lunar and Siderial time-keeping systems were variously kept and coordinated by His priests and priestesses. There are thousands of connections 'waiting' to be discovered by anyone who will look, comparing HARI-VASU and Shakti Vaishnavism ( and related traditions in the East) with the great inclusive Heliopolitan Traditions of the West. Since Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have their roots in this inter-racial ELI-YAHU (HELIOS / HERI-ASU) worship, it is vitally important for both Eastern and Western Scholars to put aside their pre-conceived notions and prejudices to consider this evidence. A Final Note On The Great Trauma of the Hyksos Period In my studies i have considered the religious aspects of some pivotal human experiances, such as the Hyksos conquest of Northen Egypt, and the much later Assyrian destruction of Heliopolitan culture in the Levant. Religious heresies and schizm dynamics often lay beneath the political and military movements of history. There was a period during which the Holy Name of Eli-Yahu BAAL became 'diabolized'. Prior to this period, Yahu was commonly worshiped as BAAL, and Eli-Yahu was worshiped with His Feminine Shekinah / Chokmah Who was called Asherah, and scores of other names. After this period (which has not been reliably dated) Yahu was no longer called BAAL, and no longer publically worshiped with a 'consort' or Feminine aspect. Baal has both Vaishnava and Shaivite attributes. Asherah has both Vaishnava and Shaivite related Shakti attributes. However, after the Great Truama, we see a separating-out of these traditions into two historical streams. One of these streams is clearly Vishnu related, and the other is Shiva related. Shaivism and Shaktism apparently split-off as separate religions from the Primal Tradition, somehow during a period of religious trauma and related social crisis involving the HYKSOS (YAKSHASHA ) Baal-Yahu and Asherah-Shekinah worship in the Levant, Egypt and Mediterranean Region. This is why the so-called 'Left hand Tantric' Traditions of Shiva and Shakti, have been so frequently identified with the orgiastic traditions of the late, pseudo-Dionysian Bacchants and Maenads. The Ascetic Heliopolitan Tradition of the Hierarchos / Hierophant Dionysos (Baal) became corrupted in association with orgiastic Hekate ( Asherah) worship. Thus the comparative study of both these ascetic and corrupted (orgiastic) Baal & Asherah Traditions holds great promise for purely Eastern 'Hindu' Vaishnava, Shaivite, and Shakti Bhakti Ecumenism as well. The sattvic, pietistic (holy) traditions of Shaivism and Shakti worship derive from the original, unified Primal Bhakti Tradition. The impious corrupted, separated heretical Traditions are later in developement, having a potentially identifiable period of developement and rise to regional prominence and power, with a distinct pattern of diffusion. It is the Pseudo-Dionysian (Baal) corruption of Shaivism & Shaktism, which flowed towards India, after the great Hyksos Heresy in the Levant, Egypt and Greece. I am not saying that Shaivsim etc originated in the West and spread to the East. I am saying that a specific corruption of it appears in the Mediterranean, and clearly spread eastward. In Classical times, this corruption was associated with the orgiastic and cannibalistic Maenads or Bacchants of the false 'Dionysos'. It is this tradition which the anti-Helenizers sought to drive out of Israel, which the ascetic Spartans outlawed and fought, and which the Senate banned from Rome. In Egypt, This great religious and social trauma is associated with the Dark Ages of the Anti-Helios Hyksos, who corruptly identified KETU / SETU with the Universal Savior, BAAL. The Hyksos were not the enslaved Semitic Heros of the Jewish Exodus Story. This is one of the worst mistakes historians have ever made. It is purely based on the racial assumption that , because the Hyksos were Semites, they somehow had to be the heroes of the Biblical Epic. In fact, all the evidence indicates that it was under the Hyksos that the Semitic and 'mixed multitude' worshippers of God HELIOS were enslaved. ELI-YAHU is HELIOS / HOR-US, whose cosmic enemy is KETU / SETU / CHATA (Hebrew 'Sin') and CATA-BOLISM. RAHU-KETU is the cosmic enemy of Vishnu and the DEVAS or SURAS. Rahu-Ketu causes demonic possession, disease, disorder and death. SETU / SATAN / KETU, cast down, was the 'father of lies' and the distortion of words (cata-chresis), the cause of celestial sun & moon-eating eclipses, inauspicious asterims, comets, meteors and floods etc. (catastrophe, cataclysm), the dis-integration of all things (catabolism), and cause of possession / seizure / madness ( catalepsy). SETU / KETU / KETOS the Evil Dragon was CHATA or 'sin' personified. For instance, as late as the New Testament, he is Envisioned by the apostle John as the cosmic dragon lying in wait to devour the Messiah as He is 'born' from the celestial Virgin. This is obviously the sun and moon devouring Rahu-Ketu, enemy of Vishnu and the Devas. In both the East and West he is depicted as a cosmic dragon who devours the sun and moon. As such he is KETOS or DRAC in Greek, KETU or DRUG to Tibetan Buddhists and Satan the Dragon to Jews and Christians. By confounding the ENEMY of life, truth, order / beauty and health, etc., with the LORD of life, truth etc, the Hyksos worshiped 'anti-Christ' in the place of Christ. They created the False Baal-Dionysos-Christ, and changed the capital of Egypt from one of the traditional Heliopolitan Centers, to the very capital city of SETU / KETU (Avaris). Breaking with Heliopolitan Tradition, they plunged Egypt into a 'dark age' . Their power throughout the region devastated the Heliopolitan culture, and set in motion a religious and moral culture clash that would have repercussions to our time. Against the background of this enormous tragedy, The Bible asserts that God Himself appeared in a theophany to rescue His people. Who was this God, and who were His people ? He was the Lord of the Patriarch Joseph, Vizier to the Pharoah of ancient Heliopolis. He was ELI-YAHU, the God Joseph's wife was the High Priestess of. He was HERU the ELDER, the Deity of Rhodes, that the city of Heliopolis was built to honor. He was Helios / Eli-Yahu, the Lord of the 'mixed multitude' of Semites, Africans and Europeans who were forced to build a captital temple-city to glorify the arch-enemy of their God. The Lord of the Exodus was the true Dje Dje NTR - BAAL, come to take the region back from the Blasphemous Hyksos, who dared to force the people of Egypt, the Levant, and the Isles of the Mediterranean to worship, or pay tribute to Setu / Ketu / Chata ....Sin Personified. Tragically, the corruption caused by the Hyksos was so profound, that BAAL was eventually 'put away' as a name for Yahu. However, we can use the profound religio-cultural sea-change of the Hyksos Era to give ouselves a nearest relative date for the sattvic / pious tradition of Hari-Vasu (BALADEVA) and Shaktis' worship. If the tradition of Krishna -Balaram worship we know of from the Gita and Bhagavatam was post-Hyksos Era in developement, Hari, Baladeva and Subhadra would not be being worshiped together with strictly pious rites. Krishna would not be identified with Kala or Shiva. The Great Trauma would be reflected in the corpus of the Krishna-centric Vaishnava Scriptures. Given the interaction of the Eastern and Western (Old World) Bhakti traditions, There would surely be some of the period's corruptions strongly evident in the ELI-BAAL and ASHERAH related Krishna-Balarama and Subhadra tradition. Since there isn't, i conclude that the Gita and Bhagavatam traditions of Jagganatha (HARI, KRISHNA), BALADEVA and SUBHADRA predate the Great Trauma of the heresy of BAAL-ASHERAH. Related elements of Pure Land Buddhism also predate the Great Trauma. This seems obvious in that these elements have preserved the former integration of Vishnu and Shiva traditions. (Another multi-volume series could be written on this.) A profound confirmation of this concept of a Great Trauma and schizm, can be observed in the fact that the orgiastic traditions of Shiva and Kali both seem to have appeared and to have become prominent at some certain time. Both legend and interdisciplinary evidence confirm a diffusion of these L. H. Tantric- like practices to India, and this diffusion is specifically what has been recently documented by 'Tantric' Shaivite and Shakti scholars.The modern advocates of raw (and even human)flesh eating, substance abuse and perverse sex in the name of religion, do not hesitate to identify their corrut 'Shiva' with the 'Dionysos' of the Maenads / Bacchants. What i want to see is the Sattvic Tradition Scholars comparing the unified, ascetic traditions of ancient religious history. your aspiring servant, Bhakti Ananda Goswami Tridandi Sannysi Bhakti Ananda Goswami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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