Scandanavian Origins

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Re: A chapter from the book of P.N Oaks called Our World Vedic Heritage. In

this chapter Mr. Oaks relates the Scandanavian region to India, along the

lines of an anthropological, motherland source.

 

I think that his concept is a bit sectarian, let´s just see it in terms of "

pre-Western civilization " , Indo-European, cultural, linguistic and even

racial origins.

 

He makes the point that the ancient Indo Europeans from India migrated to

the Scandanavian region- something like that. I don´t think that this is

exactly reasonable, nor is an origin in the Caucasians reasonable. For one

thing, the Hindus and Caucasians are darker complected and it would have

been difficult for them to migrate to Scandanavia and generate a blond

haired, blue eyed race. It would have been difficult for them to migrate and

preserve and teach some of the complex linguistic patterns, such as verb

conjugations and the declensions of nouns, which Sanskrit and the languages

of Northern Europe have in common.

 

A much closer origin would be the Arctic opening to the hollow earth, from

which Indo European culture could have made several discrete migrations to

various points on the surface, one by one. Not that you have to start at

some point on the surface and connect every fragmented part of Indo European

culture as if you were stringing together pearls on a thread.

 

Of course, indologists haven´t been able to interpret in this way because

they have no concept of the hollow Earth Theory.

 

Read the similarities which Mr. Oaks presents below, and see if an origin in

the hollow earth through the Arctic isn´t more reasonable.

 

Mr. Oaks:

 

THE VEDIC PAST OF THE SCANDINAVIAN REGION.

 

Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland though

separate countries today, are lumped together in ancient Vedic terminology

as Scandinavia.

 

Scandinavia is a Sanskrit term meaning a naval settlement founded in the

name of Scand, the son of Lord Shiva and Commander?in?Chief of the divine

armies. The Vikings inherited that tradition. The last syllable 'King' is

the Sanskrit word 'Simha' signifying a lion.

 

The whole of Europe was administered in ancient times by a Sanskrit?speaking

Vedic clan known as Daityas.

 

Danu and Merk were two leaders of that ancient clan of the Daityas. It is

those two names which are combined in the term Denmark.

 

Count Biornstierna is, therefore, right in observing " it appears that the

Hindu settlers migrated to Scandinavia before the Mahabharat war."

The ancient names Sverige for Sweden and Norge for Norway are Sanskrit terms

Swarga and Narka. The term Sweden in Sanskrit signifies a place where there

is no perspiration. Since Narka alias Norge signifies ´ Hell ´ in Sanskrit,

Vedic tradition, it is very significant and pertinent that in Norway one

town is actually named Hell. This is very important proof of the Vedic past

of Norway.

 

Upsala near Stockholm in Sweden is a Sanskrit term signifiyng an auxiliary

or subordinate educational campus. It could, therefore, be that in the

pre?Christian days Upsala originated as a second, satellite campus of the

main educational establishment in Stockholm.

 

The Vedas

 

Scandinavia's ancientmost scripture is known as Edda because it is a

corruption of the name Veda. After the discontinuance of Sanskrit tuition in

Europe and as a result of the spread of Christianity, the contents of the

Vedas were forgotten and the word itself came to be mispronounced as Edda.

These days only the name 'Veda' survives in Scandinavia. Even that is

wrongly pronounced as Edda. Its kernel, viz., its Sanskrit chants have alt

been substituted by some imaginary stories.

 

Vedic Designs

Dorothea Chaplin observes in her book " During, recent years it has come to

be recognized how deeply the impress of ancient Indian designs and folklore

have influenced the pre?Columbia civilization of America. But the designs

and beliefs centred around the elephants are just as emphatically revealed

in the antiquities of Scotland and Scandinavia".

 

In Vedic tradition elephants are considered holy. God Ganash has an

elephant's head. Every temple and palace is many?a?time decorated with

elephant statues because an elephant is considered a symbol of sober wisdom

and sacred strength. The existence of the elephant in Scandinavian symbolism

though a live elephant is not native to the region, is a sure indication of

the prevalence of Vedic culture in pre-Christian Scandinavia.

 

Names and Surnames

 

Scandinavian names such as Amundsen and Sorensen are clearly of the Vedic

tradition. In India the term Sen is generally used as a surname, but even

personal names such as Ugrasen and Bhadrasen have ´ sen ´ endings.

 

The term Veda also forms part of Scandinavian names as in India, as in names

like Vedram and Vedprakash.

 

Buddha Idols

 

Some Buddha idols found in sunken ships in the frozen seas around

Scandinavian countries, indicate that because Scandinavia practised Vedic

culture when the Buddha rose to fame in India, his name, fame and images

were carried to Scandinavia too as to other parts of the world.

 

Shiva Worship

 

Many relics of Shiva worship are often found in Scandinavia as in the rest

of Europe. But Christian invaders of Scandinavia have done their worst in

twisting Shiva worship rituals and prayer books to appear as though they

were all woven around sexual revelries or primitive adulation of the genital

organs. Even in India, enemies of Vedic culture have manufactured such

defamatory Sanskrit literature to masquerade as genuine classics of those

revelling in sex worship.

 

Count Biornstierna, himself a Scandinavian, observes " we have ( in

Scandinavia ) another proof that the myths of the Scandinavians are derived

from those of the Hindus."

 

(2) P. 163, The Theogony of the Hindus, by Count Biornstierna.

 

Though under the present political dispensation the term Scandinavia may

apply only to Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland yet let us also study the

other northern European regions in this context.

 

" Even today, the study of Sanskrit is a treasured objective among the Finns

and the Lithuanians and the legendary gods of these people can be mostly

identified with Vedic deities. "3

 

 

Czechoslovakia

 

In the Czechoslovak language too Veda means knowledge. This is an indication

that the Vedas have been a part of ancient European tradition. Science

faculties in Czechoslovakian academies are known as 'Veda'

 

The Sanskrit word for sugar is Sharkara. Even the English word sugar is a

regional variation of the Sanskrit term. The Czech word 'Sucker' is nearer

still in pronunciation to the Sanskrit term Sharkara.

 

The Czech word 'masso' is akin to the word 'mass' in several modern Indian

languages because they derive from the original Sanskrit word `mausam'

meaning 'flesh'.

 

Finland

 

The `Sauna' hot bath of Finland, is obviously the Sanskrit word 'Snanam.'

meaning 'bath'.

 

" Edda ( alias Veda ) is the sacred book of the Scandinavian branches of the

Teutonic family ... It includes the Goths of different names, the

Moeso-Goths near the Danube; the Visigoths in Spain; the Ostro-Goths who

culminated under Theodoric in Italy; the Franks whose name is `free men',

and the Lombards who founded a second kingdom in Italy. Of the Teutons we

hear nothing until Tacitus the Roman historian found them settled in

Germany. To Iceland we must go to learn what they believed and felt before

they were brought into contact with Christianity. In the year 874 A.D. a

body of people left Norway because they would not submit to the tyranny of

Harold Harfager, or Fair Hair and settled in Iceland. They carried with them

the religion, the poetry, and the laws of their race; and on this desolate

volcanic island they kept these records unchanged for hundreds of years. In

1639 these books were discovered ... this literature of the Scandinavian

peninsula gives a key to the literature of all the Teutonic families; its

ideas agree so wonderfully with the Sanskrit ideas .....The ancient

literature of the four nations who inhabit the Scandinavian peninsula is

practically one ".

 

 

The suffix ´GOTH´ quoted above is the Sanskrit term 'gotra'. It signifies a

bond of nurture under a common Guru alias sage. All Hindu intelligentsia

continue to retain and mention, if asked, their 'Gotra' alias 'Goth' with

holy nostalgic reverence. India's present Foreign Secretary's surname

'Rasagotra' is of that same tradition.

 

The extract quoted above gives one an indication that the people who inhabit

the various regions of Europe are Teutons alias Daityas; and that they all

had a common ancient literature. It contained poetry and laws and that the

ideas therein agreed with ideas in Sanskrit scriptures. That clearly

indicates that the Edda was a latter-day, native European edition of the

Vedas like the Zend- Avesta of Persia.

 

The above conclusion gets further clarified and confirmed by some more

details which Laura gives, namely, " The Norsemen were converted to

Christianity so much later than any other European nation that then

cosmogony and mythology have been preserved to us in a perfectly

unaltered condition. Their literature is both grand and

poetic. Their sacred books are the two Eddas, one poetic,

the other prose, written in that old Norse tongue which was

once spoken by the four families throughout the

Scandinavian Peninsula. The word Edda means great grand

mother because the poems were handed down from grand

mothers by repetition. The poetic Edda which is the older

of the two, is a collection of 37 sagas. Some of them are

religious, and give an account of the creation of the world,

of the gods and men; some of them historical telling of the

heroes of the nation; one of them gives a series of moral

maxims.

 

" The ballads were written before the 8th century but they were collected

together, in 7086 A.D. by a Christian priest named Soemund. Scholars think

Soemund was a name given to him in reference to this, for it means the mouth

which scatters seeds "

 

The Vedas and Upanishads

 

" The prose Edda was collected about 1200 A.D. It explains the mythology and

the history of the poetic Edda which, indeed, could hardly be understood

without it. It would be difficult to gather a system of belief, even a

connected story, from utterances so vague, incoherent and disjointed as

those of Soemund's Edda, especiallly the mythological part; the heroic

portion is more connected and comprehensible. But never?the?less there is a

wonderful charm about the Edda? a vague breadth in the thought, a delicious

simplicity in the expression. Of course there is first the cosmogony or

creation of the world (as under):

 

 

There was in times of old

Nor Sand nor Sea

Nor gelid waves

Earth existed not.

Nor heaven above

" I " was a chaotic chasm

And grass nowhere

Then the Supreme ineffable spirit willed

And a formless chaotic matter was created "

 

This will immediately suggest that wonderful hymn of the Rigved

" There is only one being who exists Unmoved yet moving swifter than the

wind, Who far outstrips the senses, though as gods They strive to reach Him,

who, Himself at rest Transcends the fleetest flight of other beings Who,

like the air, supports all vital action. He moves not; he is far yet near.

He is within this universe, and yet Outside this universe; whoe'r beholds

All living creatures as in him, and him, The universal spirit as in all,

Henceforth regards no creature with contempt".

 

The two Eddas, one in verse and the other in prose are obviously carry-overs

of the original Sanskrit Vedas and the Upanishads respectively. The

wonderful charm ant breadth of thought and the story of the creation in the

Edd: are unmistakable characteristics of the Vedas. Similar pre-Christian

Anglo-Saxon ballads are preserved in a manuscript in Exeter Cathedral in

England.

 

Since the Mahabharat war ( around 3138 B. C. ), the tradition of Vedic

recitation in Europe broke down and the memory of the Vedas gradually faded

away. Later because of the Christian invasion even the remaining traces of

the Vedic tradition were wiped out from Europe. In spite of such a big

time?gap the irresistible divine magic of the Vedas impelled even a

Christian priest such as Soemund to scrape and cull together whatever

conceptual remnants he could find of the long extinct Vedic tradition in

Europe. The effort was worth its while because from that collection,

described above, one can certainly conclude that what is currently being

spelled as Edda was indeed basically the Veda. The belief that Edda

signifies a grand mother is a latter-day improvised explanation. The real

meaning is Veda.

 

Upsala was a Temple

 

We have already explained earlier that Upsaia is a Sanskrit word connoting a

subordinate educational establishment. Laura Poor's noting says as much. She

observes - " The temple of Norsemen was at Upsala in Sweden: the grove that

surrounded it was sacred." 6 It was obviously a hermitage and Vedic school.

 

With the Christian invasion of Europe Olaf was the first Scandinavian king

to be inviegled into turning a Christian. As soon as he was baptised he let

loose his armies in 1030 A. D, to convert all Scandinavians to Christianity.

Thereafter the Gods of old were stigmatised and misrepresented as demons and

devils.

 

Scandinavians settled in England were turned Christians four centuries

earlier than the people in their home countries.

 

The Ramayan

 

All ancient Sanskrit scriptures lie battered, scattered, trampled and

forgotten in Europe. Some remnants of the Vedas and the Upanishads we have

already discussed above.

 

Likewise the Ramayan too has been reduced to small bits. Like fragments of a

torn text, single episodes from the Ramayan survive in Europe as loose,

independent stories. One such is the Hildebrand Lied, the oldest in Norse

mythology because it is an episode from the million year ancient Ramayan. It

is a part of what was once a bigger German epic.

 

The Mahabharat Legends

 

Another Norse ballad is about Sigfried, a hero who was born covered with a

coat of horn. Obviously this is the European relic of the Mahabharat

character, Karna who was born with an armour?plated body.

 

The Vedic Past of the Slavs

 

Modern states such as Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia constitute the region

inhabited by the Slav community.

 

Slave language like other languages is a dialect of Sanskrit, too. There

fire is Agni as in Sanskrit, malka (Mallika) is mother, sestra is sister;

brat is brother; syn is son, nos is nose, dom (dham) is house, dvar is door

alias dwar. The Gypsies living with the Slavs are also Hindus from India.

They worship Rama, Krishna, Kali and numerous

other Vedic deities. In Scopte a city in Yugoslavia over 50,000 Ramas alias

Hindus live. Their names too are Hindu such as Sudhakant, Asha, Meenakshi

and Ramkali. They remember and respect India as their " Baro than " i.e. big

land.

 

Ancestor Worship

 

The ancestor-worship practised by the Slavs in ancient times and the powers

of nature adored by them are proof of their pre?Christian Vedic heritage.

 

The Slavs also offered sacrifices under Oak trees.

 

Their chief deity Bog is a relic of the Sanskrit word Bhagawan, Swarog is

another name of that supreme deity. That name Swarca is the Sanskrit word

for heaven.

English words ´bogy' and 'Puck' are also corruptions of the Sanskrit word

'Bhagawan'.

The Sun is called Dauzh?Bog by the Slavs. That is the Sanskrit term

Diwas-Bhagawan i.e. the God of daylight. Stri?Bog is the wind god.

 

Ogon is their pronunciation of the Sanskrit ' Agni ' meaning 'fire'.

Slav peasants refer to grain always as sacred corn' in the Vedic, Hindu

way.

The Vedic deity Varun is pronounced by the Slavs as Parun'.

 

Tree Worship

 

Corresponding to the tall banyan and peepul tree in India the Oak tree was

held so sacred by the Slavs that even after conversion to Christianity and

giving up their idols the Slavs would not tolerate their sacred Oak trees to

be cut down.

 

 

The Sati Custom

 

Upto about a thousand years ago Slav widows too used to immolate themselves

on the funeral pyres of their deceased husbands, as in India.

 

The Slavs looked upon the rainbow and the milky way as the pathways to

heaven, which was the abode of the Sun and therefore the abode of the dead.

 

Veda Slovena

 

Mr. Verkoviez a Slav resident of Serres, near Salonica, published in 1874 a

remarkable collection of Slavonic poetry and named it Veda Slovena. That is

an indication of the memory of the Vedas still surviving among the Slavs and

also of the great respect they still retain for the Vedas. This couldn't

have been possible if the Vedas had not formed part of their lost heritage.

Those songs used to be recited even by Mohamedan Bulgarians but Mr.

Verkoviez claims to have found them in an ancient monastery on Mt. Rhodope

in Thrace. Some Slavonic savants hail them as genuine, sacred ancient hymns

while others denounce them as concoctions.

 

The Norsemen and Slavs were forced to abandon their Vedic culture and become

Christian in the 9th century. For a long time Christianity was suffered to

exist. However Vladimir, the Charlemagne of Russia (who ascended the throne

in 980 A. D.) proclaimed Christianity as the state religion by himself

toppling a statue of the Vedic deity, Varun alias Parun. Thereafter, all

Vedic temples and schools in the region were turned into Christian churches

and monasteries. At his baptism the name Vladimir was changed to Wassily.

The Russo?Greek church has since hailed him as St. Basil. This is yet

another instance of the Christian and Muslim practice of raising to

sainthood persons who

 

Wielded the sword and resorted to terror and torture to eradicate worldwide

Vedic culture and force people to become Christians and Muslims.

 

The heroic ballads that are sung about Wassily and about Charlemagne are

full of pre-Christian ideas and sentiments grafted on to these Christian

converts.

 

A few ritual songs preserved by the peasantry described the agricultural

changes of the seasons. But constant priestly disapproval of those

pre?Christian songs have resulted in changing the original Vedic content and

meanings of those songs.

 

Sankranti Festival

 

Yet as in India the people celebrate the end of winter by building up a

bonfire. Peasants dance and sing songs to Lode, the goddess of spring and

festivity and for a week the children shoot with bows and arrows. The

Christian priests have now baptised that festival as Butter Week. This is

yet another indication of how Christians and Muslims put their own shrouds

on age old Vedic festivals to make them look deceptively Christian or

Muslim.

 

In India there are two festivals, both connected with winter, where bonfires

are lighted. One falls on January 13/14 and the other about two and half

months later. The latter is also a kind of a water festival.

 

The one falling on January 13/1 4 is known in the Punjab region of north

India as Lodi and also as Sankranti. This is almost the same as the ´Lada'

of the Slavs. Since Indian festivals have an unbroken Vedic link it is

obvious that the Lada festival of the Slavs is also of Vedic origin.

 

End of P N Oaks-

 

Members,

 

In regard to indology and the HET, see my article the Hollow Earth and the

Aryan Invasion Redefined:

http://skywebsite.com/hollow/Vedic-Hollow-Earth/id2.html

 

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