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Dear all,

There are a lot of emails going around on the topic of Women and Man. Please let

me add few of my own commets and observations.

1. First, do not ever forget that you are spirit souls, and the body of a woman

or man or dog is temporary, today you might be a woman, in your previous or

future lifes you could have been a man, can anyone know for sure or tell for

sure.

2. This gender fight will go on as long as there are living beings, just like

life and death. However our main aim should be to get out of this gender

slander.

3. Woman and Man are complete in their own beautiful way, and one need not judge

about the other gender, instead try and purify your existising life and go back

to god head.

4. Either refering to Acharyas or trying to emulate them, in a way to suit your

own misconcieved notions of gender slander is dangerous. Please desit from it.

Regards,

Vijai

 

 

>"Mark Andrew Miles"

>vediculture >vediculture

>[world-vedic] Women as characterized >Fri, 10 Aug 2001 06:58:47

-0000 > >I am posting this on behalf of Nandarani Evans ; >all comments, etc.

should be directed to her. This is a response to >Mahesh Raja's 8 August

response to Tim. > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Wed, 8 Aug

2001 21:18:18 -1000 (HST) >Nandarani Evans

>letters (AT) chakra (DOT) org >Cc: news (AT) chakra (DOT) org >Women As Characterized >

>I do believe that the times in which we are living are bringing >everyone >to

an appreciation of women. It is an organic process, happening >without

>anyone's ability to control it. However, Srila Prabhupada said many >more

>negative things about women, over and over, than he did about gays or >blacks.

> >What gets me is that male dominated thinking assumes that because a >woman

>literally accepts a man, that makes her less than the man. It does >not; >it

makes her equal to the man, but in a different role. > >A deep and profound

interconnection reflected from basic realities >from >the highest places as

Srila Prabhupada himself experienced. > >Anything that says that women are not

philosophically inclined and >more >materialistic than men, is false. The women

I know are quite subtle >and >philosophical, and not particularly materialistic.

It is some men >who are >unsubtle and insensitive to a very profound truth: that

women and >men are >equal, though different. The men who are closest to me do

not fall >into >that category. > >Who here is justified in saying that

accepting is less than being >accepted? And there is nothing wrong and

everything right about love >and >acceptance, unconditional. Which is the

essence of the female role. >Why >we make it less than aggression is beyond me.

> >Women don't meet the top standard, but one must see them properly. >Men

>likewise, and with no "preferred" or "superior" sex treatment. I keep >reading

about men going way off the track, recently. For example, a >23 >year old

housemate has repeated sexual intercourse with a 10 year old >in >her mother's

home and videotapes it repeatedly. The mother found the >tapes after the girl

finally spoke up. News of men raping very young >female children seems frequent

in the news. That's one of the >reasons I >don't buy the papers anymore. > >The

children don't ask for this; the man deliberately forces himself >upon >them:

aggression gone wild. > >Lately I am seeing men helping with baby strollers!

And they don't >seem >embarrassed. I've seen it two or three times in the last

week. > >In traditional Cherokee society, men and women are on a par. There

>are no >gender pronouns distinguishing between them, and men and women may do

>whatever occupational duty appeals: men may tend children if that is >their

desire, without loss of face, and women may join an elite corps >of

>investigators and vigilantes, if they so desire. > >Hare Krishna. Note: Hare

and Krishna > >Your servant, > >Nandarani Evans (Nandarani dd) > > > > >This is

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