Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Sometimes there is some apparent confusion about Srila Prabhupada's statements regarding nuclear war, who will win, lose, suffer, etc. I wish to clear up confusion to the best of my limited ability. Srila Prabhupada stated that "the anti-communists would be defeated in the war." Sometimes, also, He says that India will suffer the most; othertimes His Divine Grace, says that "especially Russia" will be smashed. And elshwere He states that the Communists will defeat the Capitalists. Then He also intimates that "honest" persons will survive. And He emphatically states that "We . . . Hare Krishna chanters . . . will be protected." And etc. None of these perfect statements are actually contradictory. Srila Prabhupada has expalined that perfect Communism is a state wherein the world is ruled and managed properly with God at the center of all human activitiis; where Isavasya is the goal of all human beings in their different varnas and ashramas. Indeed, Srila Prabhupada's fusion of East and West is an unparalleled consummation of Spiritual Work guided by the great souled Acharyas from ancient times to the present. The Blind Man carries the crippled man on his shoulders, and together they can conquer the world. Prabhupada did this, by taking American capital and utilising it in the service of the Lord, via printing and dissemination of the Vedic Scriptures in disciplic succession. Prabhupada demonstrated true Communism, with Isavasya at Center. Anyone against this Transcendental Principle, IMPORTED DIRECTLY FROM THE SPIRITUAL ABODE, will be killed in the nuclear war which will come soon. Thus the "anti-communists" are those against this unique pardigm of East-West fusion of Wealth and Knowledge [directed by the Supreme Lord's Representative]. : "There is always this great quarrel between the laborers and the capitalists in present-day society. The quarrel has now taken an international shape, and the world is in danger. Men face each other in enmity just like cats and dogs snarling. Sri Isopanisad cannot give advice to the cats and the dogs, but It delivers the message of Godhead to man through the bona fide acaryas, or holy teachers. And the human race may take this Vedic wisdom from Sri Isopanisad: that no one should quarrel over material possessions. One must be satisfied by whatever privileges are given to him by the mercy of the Lord [TRUE COMMUNISM!] There can be no peace if the communist or the capitalist or any other party claims to be the proprietor of the resources of nature, which are entirely the property of the Lord." . . . [Note: in this connection, it may be noted herein that Srila Prabhupada stated in at least one Conversation that "Communism is a reaction to Capitalism." Now, it may be that Srila Prabhupada favors Capitalism, per se, over Communism, since the Communists, according to Him are avowed atheists, denying directly the Lord's Supremacy, whereas the Capitalists may be more pious, recognizing God in 'blessing their daily bread', etc., but ultimately those capitalists will engender communism by their also mistakenly usurping the proprietary rights of the Lord and enjoying facilities of sense gratification without proper respect for the Overlordship of Isavasya; therefore, things must be 'capitalised' with the Lord at the center, and then ultimately a Godly, Daivi-Varnashrama Society will emerge in which men live communally according to their God-given quota both of position in society and material resources supplied "by the mercy of the Lord," which would be the perfect, spiritual communistic paradigm. That's what Srila Prabhupada demonstrated both in precept and by example, in his own Society, and he importuned leaders around the world to allow him the chance to demonstrate such spiritual technology to them for the upliftment of the praja of the State, etc. For example, this attempt was made by Srila Prabhupada to Liutenant Mossee of the Chicago Police Department in the early 70s. Srila Prabhupada constantly attempted to entice leaders of society to examine His perfect Spiritual Blueprint for the respiritualisation of the world, though hardly anyone could be bothered to really implement these ideals.. But every intelligent person who heard His prescription for Spiritual success, was very impressed by at leats the 'sound' of it, and especially by Srila Prabhupada's inimitable personality and unprecedented exposition of these absolute communistic, ie. Isavasya-centered principles . The essence of that ideal is mentioned in the Preface of the Srimad Bhagavatam, wherein Srila Prabhupada exhorts those spiritually-minded souls to see things in proper perspective: "We must know the present need of human society. And what is that need? Human society is no longer bounded by geographical limits to particular countries or communities. Human society is broader than in the Middle Ages, and the world tendency is toward one state or one human society. The ideals of spiritual communism, according to Srimad Bhagavatam, are based more or less on the oneness of the entire human society, nay, on the entire energy of living beings. The need is felt by great thinkers to make this a successful ideology. Srimad Bhagavatam will fill this need in human society. It begins, therefore, with the aphorism of Vedanta philosophy (janmady asya yatah) TO ESTABLISH THE IDEAL OF A COMMON CAUSE. "HUMAN SOCIETY, AT THE PRESENT MOMENT, IS NOT IN THE DARKNESS OF OBLIVION. It has made rapid progress in the field of material comforts, education and economic development throughout the entire world. But there is a pinprick somewhere in the social body at large, and therefore there are large-scale quarrels, even over less important issues. There is a need of a clue as to how humanity can become one in peace, friendship, and prosperity WITH A COMMON CAUSE. Srimad Bhagavatam will fill this need, for it is a cultural presentation for the re-spiritualisation of the entire human society. .. . . "Disparity in human society is due to lack of principles in a godless civilization. There is God, or the Almighty One, from whom everything emanates, by whom everything is maintained and in whom everything is merged to rest. Material science has tried hard to find the ultimate source of creation very insufficiently, but it is a fact that there is one ultimate source of everything that be. This ultimate source is explained rationally and authoritatively in the beautiful Bhagavatam or Srimad Bhagavatam." - Srimad Bhagavatam, Preface Returning to Sri Isopanisad: "The capitalist cannot curb down the communist simply by political maneuvering, nor can the communist defeat the capitalist simply by fighting for stolen bread. IF THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE THE PROPRIETORSHIP OF THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD, THEN ALL THE PROPERTY WHICH THEY CLAIM TO BE THEIR OWN IS STOLEN, AND THEREFORE THEY SHALL BE LIABLE TO PUNISHMENT BY THE LAWS OF Nature. The Bomb is in the hands of both the communists and the capitalists, and if both do not recognize the proprietorship of the Supreme Lord, IT IS SURE AND CERTAIN that, ultimately, THE BOMB WILL RUIN BOTH PARTIES [ie. both ANTI (Spiritual) Communist parties]. Therefore, in order to save themselves, both must follow the instruction of Sri Isopanisad, and thus bring peace to the world." sanat das Sri Isopanisad: "Mukunda dasa. PSS Oldham" PSSHearing "Stephen Voith" SLVforACBSP, "Nandarani Evans" nevans Cc: "OLF/Joseph Fedorowsky" lawyer, gauri, mahesh.r, mahaksa_d, vediculture, tim73, yvendu, Vaisnavacouncil, vaisnava_synod, lakshmi, Ariel6365, rocana, gbc_staff, Indradyumna.Swami, jndas2, krsnacabletv, mpandit, madhudvisa, nihar_singh76, RAMA26, pratyatosa, radhapran, Raghu, Ramrajya, gsibbald, Bhagwatam, tsa108, vishoka, visva, yasoda, adri, Jaasupool, pragosh, Dgovinda, pada, innervision, Caturbahu386, tornd, zakheim, WLG Re: post-premonitory visions by sanat das, no.1 oafender at SP'sFeet/Feat Mon, 1 Oct 2001 13:23:44 +0100 Honorable Portor Goss February, 14 , 1998 Chairman House Intelligence Oversight Committee US House of Representatives Washington, D.C. My knowledge of CIA involvement in the crash of the Gander Arrow Air DC-8 and PAN AM 103 Dear Chairman Goss, My specialized knowledge of ordinance, explosives and pyrotechnics may provide the missing insights needed to solve several major terrorist crimes. For 15 years my company ACCURACY SYSTEMS ORDINANCE CORPORATION, provided specialized explosive devices to law enforcement, the military, Special Forces and the Central Intelligence Agency. As you read this letter Accuracy Systems' former munitions manufacturing facilities in New River, Arizona are under occupation of the BATF who moved onto the property Sept. 20, 1997 and have been occupying the facilities there at considerable expense to the tax payers ever since. Their intent from the start has been to "blow up" the explosives magazines and burn our former research and development workshop and its contents --- and in the process --- destroy certain evidence that can link U S aircraft bombings to the CIA, a former client of Accuracy Systems. Specifically, I wish to bring your attention to a device that Sgt. Arleigh McCree, the renowned head of the Los Angeles Police Bomb Squad Unit, felt certain was the device responsible for blowing up the US Army chartered ARROW AIR DC-8 passenger transport that crashed in Gander, Newfoundland December 12, 1985. All of the 248 servicemen and the 8 person flight crew died when the bomb exploded immediately after take-off. The plane then traveled a short distance in the air before it crashed and burned. Our firm designed and manufactured the responsible device exclusively for, and sold it only to, the Central Intelligence Agency. This crash, which was the worst military air disaster in United States history, involved more strange occurrences than any other crash on record. While the wreckage still burned on the ground, White House Spokesperson Larry Speaks announced that the plane had crashed "probably as a result of icing on the wings." This was the official cause that the US government forced on the Canadians, who have subsequently repudiated it. There are compelling reasons to believe that this air crash involved a nuclear accident. Within hours of the "crash", U S Army General John Crosby arrived with a Broken Arrow Nuclear Disaster Team, and, without conducting any normal investigation, ordered the area bulldozed over with 6 feet of soil. There was a glowing white-hot object the size of a large grapefruit that had burned through the plane and through the body of a stewardess. This object continued to glow "white-hot" for 16 hours even after fire hoses were trained on it. This is NOT chemical behavior. It is what can only be expected of a sub-critical core of a nuclear bomb whose explosive shell had burned but did not detonate. The presence of this white-hot glowing object is the key to the motive for the bombing. Most of the military victims had been part of the 101st Airborne who were returning from Cairo, Egypt, where they were part of the U. N. peacekeeping mission enforcing the Camp David Accords. However, in addition to these troops, there was also a small group of Special Operations personnel who boarded the plane at the last minute. Sources found to be reliable told me that these personnel smuggled a nuclear backpack bomb aboard in Cairo because they had discovered the true nature of their recently cancelled hostage rescue mission. Their mission included surreptitiously transporting and detonating a small, man-portable nuclear backpack bomb at an Iraqi nuclear weapons development facility to make it seem like an Iraqi nuclear accident. This mission seems to have been under the direction of Lt. Col. Oliver North who frequently utilized Arrow Air to smuggle arms and other contraband in conjunction with the Iran-Contra operation. The soldiers were not told that they would not have the chance to outrun the blast that would destroy them. Thank God it is the duty of every soldier to disobey an unlawful order or the world would have seen its third intentional tactical nuclear detonation and the mass destruction of innocent civilians by a nuclear bomb. Orders were given by U S Government personnel that this plane be destroyed before it reached the United States of America. A bomb was planted during a stop at Gander and remotely detonated shortly after the landing gear retracted upon takeoff. Enclosed color photos of the downed Gander plane show internal damage from an explosive. The blast holes are clearly from the inside to the outside. I have since been informed that there was a completely new water system installed in Gander--- courtesy of the US taxpayers. Was this because of nuclear contamination from the crash? Three weeks after this disaster, Arleigh McCree, head of the LAPD bomb squad and a professional friend of mine, was visiting with me in Phoenix and examining items in our museum. This was where we kept samples of all of the different "Special Ordnance Devices" that we had produced over the previous twenty-something years. When Sgt. McCree saw one these items, he excitedly proclaimed that it was the device that blew up a plane. He said he would need to get federal clearance to discuss this in more detail with me. He did not reveal the exact plane at the time. Just four weeks later Arleigh McCree and his partner were killed disarming a pipe bomb that was booby-trapped. You will see from the enclosed article on this tragedy that these two deaths were also very unusual. In fact these are the only two members of the LAPD bomb squad to ever die this way. Sometime later when I began asking questions in professional circles I started to develop serious difficulties with certain agencies of the federal government. I was framed and convicted for a crime I did not commit. An attempt was made to implicate me in a plot to assassinate Corizon Aquino. On the same day that a sophisticated assassination weapon arrived in Australia for this purpose a bomb arrived in the mail addressed to me. It killed my plant manager instead. Certainly I would like to investigate the wrongs by these federal agencies. However, the real reason I am sending you the reports of federal efforts to silence me is to emphasize the value of the specialized knowledge that I possess. As a second example, I present photos of the detonator that initiated the bomb on PAN AM 103. I know where this circuit board was manufactured in Florida, not Europe, and that it was sold exclusively to the CIA--- not to the Libyans! As you can see from the letters of support attached to this letter there are persons in key positions willing to stick their necks out to proclaim my innocence. But there are far greater issues here than the fate of Chuck Byers. I am ready to provide all that I know whenever and wherever you think best. Literally hundreds of American citizens and soldiers have been blown out of the sky. These mass murders need to be investigated and the guilty persons brought to justice! I am sending this letter to every member of Congress in the hope that each of you will support my efforts to find answers to the haunting questions raised by the facts presented in this letter. All of my current efforts to have local and federal law enforcement agencies (including their parent agencies in DC) investigate these matters have been unsuccessful. In fact, our US Attorney has actually defended the perpetrators and local US District Court judges have refused to act on my requests, or, in most cases, simply Dismissed them or ruled in favor of the U S Attorney. In spite of overwhelming evidence that not only am I telling the truth, but the Federal Agents are lying, filing False Affidavits or otherwise knowingly misleading the Court. Since this matter represents a situation of extreme national importance, I am requesting you to immediately initiate hearings before the HOUSE INTELLIGENCE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE to thoroughly investigate these charges and to bring the guilty perpetrators to justice. Respectfully, Charles M. Byers President CC: All Members of the House Intelligence Oversight Committee Honorable Neil Abercrombie February 23, 1998 UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 1233 Longworth House Office Building Washington, D.C. 205105 My knowledge of CIA involvement in the crash of the Gander Arrow Air DC-8 and PAM AM 103 Dear Congressman Abercrombie, I explained in my letter of 2-14-98 to Porter Goss and Bob Kerrey, the chairmen of the Intelligence Committees in the House and Senate, how my specialized knowledge of ordinance, explosives and pyrotechnics provides the missing insights needed to solve several major terrorist crimes. For 15 years my company ACCURACY SYSTEMS ORDNANCE CORPORATION, provided specialized explosive devices to law enforcement, the military, Special Forces and the Central Intelligence Agency. In my letters to Congressman Goss and Senator Kerrey I requested full hearings before their committees. As you read this letter Accuracy Systems' former munitions manufacturing facilities in New River, Arizona are under occupation of the BATF who moved onto the property Sept. 20, 1997 and have been occupying the facilities there at considerable expense to the taxpayers ever since. Their intent from the start has been to "blow up" the explosives magazines and burn our former research and development workshop and its contents and in the process --- destroy certain evidence that can link U S aircraft bombings to the CIA, a former client of Accuracy Systems. Since this matter represents a situation of extreme national importance, I am requesting that you examine the attached compelling exhibits and then examine your conscience --- and then exert your influence to initiate proper hearings. I will send the full 62 pages of exhibits that I sent to the above mentioned chairmen on your request. Respectfully, Charles M. Byers President CC: All members of Congress Clear Evidence of a Bomb in the Gander Crash There was a Dissenting Opinion written by four members (Norm Bobbitt, Les Filotas, Dave Mussallem and Ross Stevenson) of the Canadian Aviation Safety Board (CASB) in 1988. These four members found enough evidence against the "wing icing" theory (supported by the other 5 members) to produce this document which details their theory of an on-board explosion. Their web site, GANDER THE UNTOLD STORY is linked to the official web site of the 101st Airborne Division. Figure DO11. Hole apparently ripped by explosion Figure DO12. Interior view showing extensive battering My company, ACCURACY SYSTEMS ORDNANCE, Inc., (unknowingly) designed and manufactured the device which caused this damage and sold it exclusively to the CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY. Charles Byers 602-705-9769 The Daily News Van Nuys, California Bomb Squad Pair Respected for Skills at Jobs: McCree had worldwide renown By Tony Knight Daily News Staff Writer Sunday, February 9th, 1986 Arleigh McCree and Ronald Ball, the bomb-squad officers killed Sunday were two of the most experienced and highly respected explosive technicians in the LAPD. McCree, 46, the bomb-squad chief, was in charge of the multi-agency bomb detail assembled for the 1984 Olympics. He had helped investigate the 1983 bomb blast at the Marine Barracks in Beirut and had testified on terrorism before Congress. His international reputation was such that Libyan leader Moammar Khaddafy once offered him a job training terrorists. It was one job he turned down. Arliegh McCree Ron Ball Ball, 43, a 17-year-police veteran, also was considered an expert on explosives and terrorism and had lectured nationally on the subjects. McCree, a 21-year- police veteran and Ball were killed Saturday after the bomb they tried to diffuse in a N. Hollywood garage exploded in their hands. The deaths shocked a police force, it had never had a bomb-squad officer killed before, and nearly brought Chief F. Daryl Gates to tears. "Arleighs been a friend of mine for years," said Gates, his voice trembling. "I can't ever remember having two of our bomb technicians killed before. There haven't been any in my 36 years at the department." McCree had a reputation of being extremely cool and scientific under pressure. Fellow officers said he was the last man they expected to be killed in an explosion. "I used to call him "Mother McCree". It always left us awestruck just how cool he seemed to be. He always knew what he was doing, and he never let his guard down. McCree had a human side and wasn't afraid to show it. "I remember one time someone asked him, "How can you be so cool in that situation?" and he said "I'm not cool My hands shake just like any one else's" Cook said he always knew what he was doing." "Arleigh McCree is one of the best bomb technicians anywhere in the world," Gates said. "He's a veteran. He's been doing this for the better part of twenty years" McCree had written a text on explosive devices, and in 1982 he testified before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on security and Terrorism. He said government manuals on how to make bombs were too easy for terrorists to get. In 1981, LAPD officials confirmed reports that Khadafy had offered McCree $140,000 to train terrorists. "They wanted me to be the team leader and recruit the rest of the guys." McCree was quoted as saying. Ball was remembered by fellow officers as a cheerful man who liked to laugh. "We all worked together. We trained together," Deputy Ronald Ablott of the LA County Sheriff's bomb squad said. He was a real outgoing fellow. He always had a smile on his face." "Ron Ball was probably in his own right a very good bomb technician and an excellent officer. He was very knowledgeable in his field." Ablott said. Editor's note: Recently discovered evidence indicates that there is more to Sgt. McCree's untimely death than was first supposed. In Mid January 1986, Sgt. McCree met with Charles M. Byers, the President of Accuracy Systems in Phoenix, AZ. During the course of this meeting, Sgt. McCree noticed one of Accuracy's Special Ordinance Devices in their Product Museum. Apparently this device was what Sgt. McCree had just determined was used to blow up the Arrow Air DC 8 at Gander, Newfoundland on Dec. 12, 1985, with the resulting deaths of 256 American citizens and soldiers. Upon returning home, Sgt. McCree made a report of his findings and sent it home to Washington. Unfortunately, the wrong persons became aware of this report, and to protect themselves, set up Sgt. McCree and his partner, to be killed with a booby-trapped pipe-bomb. In a resulting trial, evidence was suppressed to insure the onviction of homeowner where the bomb was found, in order to protect the perpetrators. The PAN AM 103 Electronic Timer These 3 photographs are of an identical model of the electronic timer used to detonate the bomb that blew up PAN AM 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland on Dec. 21, 1988. A one inch square partial section of this timer was found in the PAN AM 103 wreckage. It is adjustable from 0 to 99 minutes or 0 to 99 hours with the flip of a switch. It is a high quality, professionally assembled timer whose design includes both circuit (hook-up/connection) and output (function/activation) test lights. I know where it was manufactured in Florida --- again exclusively for the CIA!! Charles Byers 602-705-9769 ----- Original Message ----- Stephen Voith Nandarani Evans Cc: OLF/Joseph Fedorowsky ; gauridas (AT) aol (DOT) com ; mahesh.r (AT) virgin (DOT) net ; mahaksa_d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com ; vediculture ; tim73 (AT) yandex (DOT) ru ; yvendu (AT) hotmail (DOT) com ; Vaisnavacouncil ; vaisnava_synod ; lakshmi (AT) webtv (DOT) net ; Ariel6365 (AT) aol (DOT) com ; rocana (AT) harekrsna (DOT) com ; gbc_staff (AT) lycosmail (DOT) com ; Indradyumna.Swami (AT) pamho (DOT) net ; jndas2 ; krsnacabletv (AT) hotmail (DOT) com ; mpandit (AT) giasbg01 (DOT) vsnl.net.in ; madhudvisa (AT) hotmail (DOT) com ; nihar_singh76 ; RAMA26 (AT) aol (DOT) com ; pratyatosa (AT) hotmail (DOT) com ; radhapran (AT) hotmail (DOT) com ; Raghu (AT) roopa (DOT) org ; Ramrajya (AT) aol (DOT) com ; gsibbald (AT) webtv (DOT) net ; Bhagwatam (AT) hotmail (DOT) com ; tsa108 ; vishoka (AT) juno (DOT) com ; visvadas (AT) hotmail (DOT) com ; yasoda (AT) artnet (DOT) net ; adri (AT) cwcom (DOT) net ; Jaasupool (AT) aol (DOT) com ; pragosh (AT) videotron (DOT) ca ; Dgovinda (AT) aol (DOT) com ; PSSHearing (AT) prabhupada (DOT) freeserve.co.uk ; pada (AT) neteze (DOT) com ; innervision (AT) hypermax (DOT) net.au ; Caturbahu386 (AT) cs (DOT) com ; tornd ; zakheim (AT) earthlink (DOT) net ; WLG (AT) aol (DOT) com Monday, October 01, 2001 6:26 AM post-premonitory visions by sanat das, no.1 oafender at SP'sFeet/Feat Last nite i got a true glimse of what happened to those four planeswhich were used by gov't in their plot to deprive America of Herfreedoms and to prepare for WW III by placing a comand structure in theAFghani and Pakistani deserts.All four [AA, UAL] planes were alerted by AF that "hijackers aboard,hijackers aboard, take evasive action!!" The pilots of those civiliancraft were then instructed on where to move to, so that AF pilots couldsurveil and give protection. Their escorts rerouted them over the oceanand then NSA/NAVY shot them down, all but one, anyway. THAT one decoy[the one which crashed near PITTsburg] was used to convince public thatALL FOUR jetliners had been used by hijackers to attack U>S> targets [inthe same way that the Gov't kept people from suspecting THEY, ie. the(covert) UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT had done this deed, ie. WTC, etc. byattacking even the Pentagone, a brilliant scheme which silcenced mostskeptics and 'fanatic', "anti-American" Muslim groups]FActually, according to a perfectly clear dream vision i was graced withlast night, the three "jetliners" which crashed into the WTC andPentagone were not jetliners at all; sorry folks! they were cruisemissiles. laced with diminutive nuclear implosion devices [ somewitnesses on ground jero stated they saw a mushroom cloud in the WTC]The alleged footage of a "jetliner" hitting bldg. 2 of WTC was computergenerated, which is why it looks surreal. No jetliner could possibly flydirectly into the building and disappear!!! Total lunacy!!!!! Thefuselage would have come apart before it entirely 'entered' thebuilding; furthermore, much of it would have also exited the building onthe opposite side, duh!!Anyway, it was cruise missiles which destoryed the WTC, and anyone whothinks otherwise is a victim of cheaters/cheated program. [and NOTerrorists, MUSLIMS< BIN LADEn operatives, etc. were even involved; theonly 'terror ists' were covert CIA?NSA OPERATIVEsNope, those passengers on those 3 planes were dumped into the ocean[yes, Hillary GOT HER REVENGE on Babs Olson, for writing that scathingbio, "HELL TO PAY," a fitting epitath for this whole nightmarishoccurrence!] Flight 800 TWA [JUly 17, 1995] which was shot down overLon Guiland by NSA/NAVY was a practice run for this fateful day.sanat das ps. please keep this info confidential so that Angelica escapesNSA/Hillary 'benediction'.what i'm writing here will be spoken in a few years by others, just aswhat i wrote about the isgone assuras and their poisoning and defamingof Srila Prabhupada were echoed by many others years after i first spokethe truth [which was attacked and demonised by all the cheaters/cheatedgoodoleboyzclub fanatics] Attachment: (image/jpeg) Do11.jpg [not stored] Attachment: (image/jpeg) Do12.jpg [not stored] Attachment: (image/gif) Image2.gif [not stored] Attachment: (image/gif) Image1.gif [not stored] Attachment: (image/gif) detenato.GIF [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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