Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 771028r2.vrn Conversations Bhakti-caru: Pressure is good. When Dr. Ghosh came, that other Dr. Ghosh came... (Hindi) ...pressure, 180 and 80. (Hindi) He's saying that in this condition, Prabhupada can't take makara-dhvaja. THAT ANY MEDICINE THAT CONTAINS MERCURY AND ARSENIC IS POISON TO HIM. Bhavananda: That's what Prabhupada said. Tamala Krsna: That is a fact. HE FOUND THAT TO BE TRUE ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 771031r3.vrn Conversations Tamala Krsna: We certainly have... We might as well try. We've tried everyone else. Prabhupada: Hm. Tamala Krsna: So let us try. Bhavananda: He did agree with your own diagnosis, Prabhupada. HE SAID MAKARADHVAJA AT THIS POINT WOULD BE POISON AND TODAY YOU SAID THAT IT WAS POISON. Prabhupada: YES. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 771031r3.vrn Conversations Prabhupada: ...taking poison. The body is already finished. Upendra: What is that? Tamala Krsna: HE SAID, "IF YOU THINK I'M TAKING POISON, that the body is already finished." Prabhupada: So dead body, you take poison or ambrosia, it is the same. Blind man, night or day--the same thing. Rather, if you depend on miracle, pray to Krsna that "He may survive. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "681129BG.LA Lectures Prabhupada: Now, "pervades the body," that is consciousness. The soul is very small, but... Just like you take one grain of, what is called, poison? Snake poison? Arsenic? Poison called? What is called? Yes, venom poison. Tamala Krsna: ARSENIC IS POISON. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ .. 771110rc.vrn Conversations Prabhupada: THE RAVANA WILL KILL AND RAMA WILL KILL. BETTER TO BE KILLED BY RAMA. EH? That Marica--if he does not go to mislead Sita, he'll be killed by Ravana; and if he goes to be killed by Rama, then it is better. Tamala Krsna: WHO is this Prabhupada's talking about? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Note: Srila Prabhupada sends Tamal OUT of the room THIS is when POISON was mentioned in HINDI 771108rc.vrn Conversations Prabhupada: No. (break) (Hindi) Tamala Krsna? Tamala Krsna: Yes, Prabhupada. Prabhupada: Give facility for him, ten rupees. Tamala Krsna: This gentleman? Prabhupada: Yes. Tamala Krsna: Ten rupees. Prabhupada: And some fruits. Tamala Krsna: Uncut. Prabhupada: Uncut, yes. Tamala Krsna: Okay. Indian man: (Hindi) Kaviraja: (Hindi) Prabhupada: (Hindi) Tamala Krsna: I'll give him the fruits now, Srila Prabhupada? I have some fruits. I can give him now? Prabhupada: Hm. (Hindi) Tamala Krsna: WHAT DID PRABHUPADA SAY? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Srila Prabhupada WAS being tortured. 771103rc.vrn Conversations Prabhupada: That is my only request, that at the last stage don't torture me and put to death. So I am not eating anything, and if we chant, by batches chant, I'll hear. (Bengali) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 771108rc.vrn Conversations Prabhupada: (Hindi--mentions word "poison") Kaviraja: (Hindi) Devotee: SOMEONE GAVE HIM POISON HERE. Kaviraja: (Hindi long explanation) Tamala Krsna: PRABHUPADA WAS THINKING THAT SOMEONE HAD POISONED HIM. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 771018r2.vrn Conversations Tamala Krsna: I mean we have to go on some basis, Srila Prabhupada. And from the... What we can see, we can see. Whatever you ate turned into stool. Now, that is a good sign. That's a good sign. If it didn't come out of its own accord, that's due to less strength. And by drinking a lot yesterday, this morning the urine becomes clear, and by taking those medicines. These are actual, factual things we can observe. One thing is, you don't feel able to sleep. That's a bad thing. And the other thing is your being so weak condition that your willpower is weakened. Your determination is weakened. So so far as those two problems go, for sleeping I know that something can be given to help you to sleep. So far willpower, if you allow us to take care of you, then I think that should be the willpower. OF COURSE, I MEAN WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET THEM DO ANYTHING BAD. I MEAN I'M NOT GOING TO LET ANYBODY TAKE YOU TO THE HOSPITAL. I WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT IN LONDON, EXCEPT THAT YOU YOURSELF SAID WE SHOULD DO IT. Otherwise your instructions told to everybody, "Don't let them take me to a hospital." So we're not thinking like that. Neither I'm going to let anybody put any, take any blood specimen or any of those things. It's not required. These things which they're giving you are not... The only harmful effect is that you cannot sleep. But that can be given. To help you sleep can be helped. Otherwise this kaviraja's medicine, it may be less agitating to take, but does it actually work? Now for nearly half a day you have drank only one time a little bit. But you want us to take care of you and help you, then I think you should accept these... I mean they're very reasonable arguments. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Note: Hospital means Poison SYMPTOMS would SHOW. 771103rc.vrn Conversations Tamala Krsna: I said supposing someone threatens us with our life, that "We will kill you if you don't let us take your Guru Maharaja to the hospital," still, we will not let them take you. Your order is our business to follow, even at the risk of our life. SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE YOU TO THE HOSPITAL UNDER ANY CONDITION. Neither... Not only is it your order, but we also see absolutely no benefit from these hospitals. Your order is sufficient, but apart from that, also, from our own limited intelligence, we also see that the hospitals are condemned. These doctors are blind, these allopathic doctors. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 771022rc.vrn Conversations Bhavananda: Therefore we asked you yesterday for your guidance. Prabhupada: No, I'll guide. Don't move me to the hospital. BETTER KILL ME HERE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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