Prabhupada: SO THEY MAY KILL ME ALSO

October 21, 2001

Prabhupada: SO THEY MAY KILL ME ALSO.

Note: Srila Prabhupada was aware of the plot to kill him in 1976.

So the question is WHO is "they"?

760503rc.hon Conversations

Prabhupada: This is our position. Gradually they will show Hare Krsna

movement. In India also, although India's... They will want to crush down

this movement. So this will be up to Him. Krsna or Krsna's movement, the

same thing. And Krsna was attempted to be killed by Kamsa class of men and

his company, the demons. So it will be there; it is already there. Don't be

disappointed, because that is the meaning that it is successful. Krsna's

favor is there, because Krsna and Krsna's movement is not different,

nondiff..., identical. So as Krsna was attempted to be killed, many, many

years before He appeared... At eighth child, if the mother produces child

yearly, still ten years, eight years before His birth, the mother was to be

attempted to be killed. So there may be attempt like that. And Lord Jesus

Christ was killed. SO THEY MAY KILL ME ALSO.

Note: Trouble from Subordinates Juniors(disciples "they")

770811rc.vrn Conversations

Abhirama: So I went to see the astrologer with Yasodanandana Swami, and he

did more calculations on your chart.

Prabhupada: You can get on light.

Abhirama: So basically he explained when the difficult times will come,

according to the planets. Then he made it very clear that beyond the

planetary influence, it would be very difficult for calculations for a

person in your position. For an ordinary man he can say very clearly. And he

can say for you which planets will disturb, but he cannot say for sure how

much they will affect, because being a saintly person, there is naturally

some resistance to these influences. So he made that very clear, that you

should not think that these are final. So he said, according to your birth,

the longevity shows very clearly. And then he gave a date. The longevity is

eighty-one years, five months and twenty-nine days, which means February 28,

1978, six months from now. This is according to birth and stars arrangement.

But on this point he made it very clear that this was from your birth, this

was set, but it can change. Due to pious activities, due to the hand of

Krsna, this can change. So... And then he described that during the next six

months, the first week of September, Saturn will pass over Ketu, and it will

agitate the influence of Ketu even more. So the first week of September the

resistance will go down, will become weaker. THEN HE MENTIONED THAT THERE

MAY BE SOME TROUBLE FROM..., MAYBE FINANCIAL OR MAYBE FROM JUNIORS, FROM

SUBORDINATES

Note: Srila Prabhupada KNEW he was going to be killed by "they" (disciples)

Otherwise why does he say BETTER KILL ME HERE.

771022rc.vrn Conversations

Bhavananda: Therefore we asked you yesterday for your guidance.

Prabhupada: No, I'll guide. Don't move me to the hospital. BETTER KILL ME

HERE.

Note: It is a particularly astounding statement to be made at the time

when Srila Prabhupada KNEW he was going to pass away soon. Marica was under

the order of Ravana to kill Rama (which he knew he was not capable of).

Ravana would kill Marica; If he failed to accomplish Ravana's order. So

either way Marica knew he was going to be killed. (By being killed by Rama

Marica would be fortunate as it opened the door of liberation).

Srila Prabhupada similarly KNEW he would be killed.

Srila Prabhupada had the following choices: 1) to have him killed in

hospital (which "they"would have done --also!)

2) to be killed by his own disciples at KrishnaBalarama Temple (who were

poisoning him) while hearing

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare /Hare Rama Hare Rama

Rama Rama Hare Hare. These were the TWO options. The option to ENGAGE his

disciples in devotional service chanting the Hare Krishna maha-mantra even

to the last

end was what he chose in spite of ("they") their evil intent to kill him.

771110rc.vrn Conversations

Prabhupada: THE RAVANA WILL KILL AND RAMA WILL KILL. BETTER TO BE KILLED BY

RAMA. EH? That Marica--if he does not go to mislead Sita, he'll be killed by

Ravana; and if he goes to be killed by Rama, then it is better.

Tamala Krsna: WHO is this Prabhupada's talking about?

Note: HOY TO TAI. (Its possible), "YE SAB FRIENDS" (THESE ALL FRIENDS),

"they" these are VERY SELECTIVE WORDS of a CAREFUL SPEECH. They are POINTING

WORDS.

Conversation Mixture of English, Hindi and Bengali (9/11/77)

Srila Prabhupada: Keu bole je keu poison kore diyeche. HOY TO TAI.

Translation: Someone says that I've been poisoned. IT'S POSSIBLE.

Balaram Mishra (?): Hmm?

Kaviraja: Kya farma rahe hain?

Translation: What is he saying?

Srila Prabhupada: Koi bolta hai je koi mujhko poison kiya gaya hai.

Translation: Someone says that someone has given poison.

Kaviraja: Kisko?

Translation: To whom?

Srila Prabhupada: Mujhko.

Translation: To me.

Kaviraja: Kaun bolta hai?

Translation: Who said?

Srila Prabhupada: YE SAB FRIENDS.

Translation: THESE ALL FRIENDS.

Bhakticharu: Ke boleche, Srila Prabhupada?

Translation: Who said, Srila Prabhupada?

Srila Prabhupada: Ke boleche.

Translation: They all say.

Tamal Krishna: Krishna das?

Kaviraja: Ao ko kaun poison dega? Kis liye dega?

Translation: Who would give you poison? Why would anyone do that?

Tamal Krishna: Who said that, Srila Prabhupada?

Srila Prabhupada: I do not know, but it is said.

Note: Srila Prabhupada's consciousness was not like a conditioned soul sleep

in ignorance. From this it is evident HE DID HERE THE WHISPERS OF "they" WHO

WERE POISONING HIM. Srila Prabhupada was FULLY CONSCIOUS of ALL that was

going on. He could hear EVERYTHING.

Srila Prabhupada: I do not know, BUT IT IS SAID.

**IF** Srila Prabhupada was in a deep slumber of a conditioned soul-he would

have NOT heard.

BUT he DID HEAR-therefore "BUT IT IS SAID". Who " they" are he does not wish

to disclose DIRECTLY.

There is also a DEFINITE link between the 9th July letter to society on the

order of RITVIK system. Srila Prabhupada's clear instructions are that he

Srila Prabhupada is the Initiating Guru of ISKCON. This ORDER was NEVER

REVOKED by Srila Prabhupada. THIS signalled warrant for his kill! Srila

Prabhupada did not compromise: HE WAS** THE** GURU OF ISKCON. This was

unacceptable to "they" (Srila Prubupada murderers).

The motives of these disciples ("they", Srila Prabhupada murderers) were to

somehow or other GET RID OF this July 9th 1977 directive-in order to

implement their devious plan.

Now "they" who poisoned Srila Prabhupada knew and feared all devotees would

find out. So in the beginning it was HIDDEN from the majority of devotees.

Why? And eventually it was the banned "ritvik" devotees who distributed

thousands of this 9th July 1977 directive ALL OVER THE WORLD. "They" had to

respond-no choice. Devotees ALL OVER THE WORLD FOUND OUT.

Hear this feeble excuse? "Tamal Krsna typed it out -Srila Prabhupada just

signed it. "

So----Srila Prabhupada had signed MANY transactions, letters to devotees,

the Incorporation of ISKCON in USA etc. **IF** July 9th 1977 letter is

rejected as having been Tamal Krsna's "personal choice" -then ISKCON

Incorporation, letters to devotees EVERYTHING typed by devotees and signed

by Srila Prabhupada would be discarded on the same merit. See how CRAZY it

looks!!. Srila Prabhupada KNEW EXACTLY what he signed.

Tamal Krsna's position was as a SECRETARY and Srila Prabhupada was THE BOSS.

Secretary can type, design letter according to THE WISHES of THE BOSS.

Secretary's position is SUBSERVIENT to the BOSS--- not independent.

Why "they" had THE MOTIVE FOR MURDER OF SRILA PRABHUPADA.:

1) Discarding the RITVIK system means "they" have free

servants/slaves(disciples).

2) Discarding the RITVIK system means "they" have the satisfaction of

worship of themselves replacing Srila Prabhupada as the Initiator.

3) Discarding the RITVIK system means "they" have the daksina MONEY for

their own lusty desires.

Free income from servant/slave(disciple).

4) Discarding the RITVIK system means "they" OWN properties, usurp temples.

5) Discarding the RITVIK system means "they" manipulate devotees.

6) Discarding the RITVIK system means "they" prevent Srila Prabhupada's

ORIGINAL BOOKS from printing/ distributing in LARGE quantities.

7) Discarding the Ritvik system means "they" and KEY men Temple Presidents

etc loot exploit the ISKCON society funds

Note:"They" Srila Prabhupada murders destination:

Isopanisad 12

The Lord states that as soon as one reaches Him by devotional

service--which is the one and only way to approach the Personality of

Godhead--one attains complete freedom from the bondage of birth and death.

In other words, the path of salvation from the material clutches fully

depends on the principles of knowledge and detachment gained from serving

the Lord. THE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS HAVE NEITHER KNOWLEDGE NOR DETACHMENT FROM

MATERIAL AFFAIRS, FOR MOST OF THEM WANT TO LIVE IN THE GOLDEN SHACKLES OF

MATERIAL BONDAGE UNDER THE SHADOW OF PHILANTHROPIC ACTIVITIES DISGUISED AS

RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES. BY A FALSE DISPLAY OF RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS, THEY

PRESENT A SHOW OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE WHILE INDULGING IN ALL SORTS OF IMMORAL

ACTIVITIES. IN THIS WAY THEY PASS AS SPIRITUAL MASTERS AND DEVOTEES OF GOD.

SUCH VIOLATORS OF RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE AUTHORITATIVE

ACARYAS, THE HOLY TEACHERS IN THE STRICT DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION. **THEY**

IGNORE THE VEDIC INJUNCTION ACARYOPASANA--"ONE MUST WORSHIP THE ACARYA"--and

Krsna's statement in the Bhagavad-gita (4.2) evam parampara-praptam, "This

supreme science of God is received through the disciplic succession."

Instead, to mislead the people in general they themselves become so-called

acaryas, but they do not even follow the principles of the acaryas.

These rogues are the MOST DANGEROUS ELEMENTS IN HUMAN SOCIETY. Because

there is no religious government, they escape punishment by the law of the

state. They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly

declared in the Bhagavad-gita that envious demons in the garb of religious

propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell (Bg.

16.19-20). SRI ISOPANISAD CONFIRMS THAT THESE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS ARE

HEADING TOWARD THE MOST OBNOXIOUS PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER THE COMPLETION

OF THEIR SPIRITUAL MASTER BUSINESS, WHICH THEY CONDUCT SIMPLY FOR SENSE

GRATIFICATION.

October 21, 2001

Thank you, Mahesa Raja, King Mahesa, all obeisances to you for your

perfect explanation. This reminds me of how Srila Prabhupada guides

Mukunda das also; only more perfectly and incisively!!

Now it's been fully understood, realized and perfectly explained. You

have refined our understanding to the point where there is absolutely no

doubt on any side. THANK YOU! Obeisances to you!

YOU HAVE PLEASED THE GURU PARAMPARA, MEANING OF COURSE THE SUPREME

PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD.

ALL MY ILLUSIONS ARE COMPLETELY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY DISPELLED. I am

convinced.

Now, if i can only become convinced that sense gratification is a

mistake and begin real, uninterrupted, unmotivated service to Srila

Prabhupada's Mission . . .

your servant,

sanat das anudas

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Prabhupada: SO THEY MAY KILL ME ALSO

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