Guest guest Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 namaskar, the question Who is a Hindu was discussed on the indictraditionsegroup, let me share a perspective. 1. How did the word Hindu come into existence ? There was no such religion as Hinduism till the Muslim invasion. It was called Sanathan Dharam. Hindu is a modified version of Sindhu, was a term to indicate the region round the Sindhu river ( modern day Indus ) and then the whole of India. The Iranians substituted H for S making it Hindu. When the Muslims came in, there became two sets of people, one the Muslims and two the Hindus and so came the word Hinduism. 2. What does Religion mean to yu ? If yu were to say I am a Hindu what does it mean to yu ? a few thoughts - As an ordinary person ie someone who has not read the scriptures, it means rituals + festivals + spirituality for eg I follow some of 16 samskaras like naming - thread - mundane - vivaha ceremonies, when I get married I go round the fire, I am open to new schools of thought, I believe in the Law of Karma - Rebirth, I do not believe in converting people like Muslims and Christians do, I do not take to the gun read violence like they do, I do not force my religion on someone by force - by using the gun, through personal experience if someone desires to become a hindu that's fine, I celebrate all festivals since they are symbols of happiness and unity and lastly when I die I get cremated and not buried thus do not occupy valuable space which in cities like Mumbai goes anywhere between Rs 3,000/ to Rs 25,000/ a square foot. 3. I have repeatedly said that religion is a western concept, one philosophy does not make a religion. In India what always existed were different schools of philosophy, the six famous ones are Nyaya, Vaiseskia, Samkhya, Yoga, Mimamsa, Vedanta, so if we were to use the western definition each philosophy would be a religion. 4. The Sanskrit word for philosophy is darsana, which means direct vision. The words symbolize the difference between modern Western philosophy, which mainly relies on intellectual pursuit and Indian philosophy that relies on direct vision of truths and pure Buddhi (reasoning). Darsana is divided into two categories namely Astika (believer in the Vedas) and Nastika (non-believer in the Vedas). Astika are Nyaya, Vaisheshik, Sakhya, Yoga, Mimamsa and Vedanta. Nastika are Carvaka, Jainism and Buddism. Others are a mixture of the ideas of these systems. Although each school of philosophy is unique, in terms of modern day religions of India i.e. Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism (excluding Sikhism because it is nothing but distilled Vedanta and Bhakti movement) certain common characteristics unite these schools. The characteristics are - Direct experience, Acceptance of authority, Harmony amongst schools, Parallel growth and co existence of so many schools, open mindedness, support of logic and reasoning, belief of eternity, law of karma, moral and ethical teachings, acknowledgement of suffering, thoroughness, practicality. The philoso is inward looking. Para 4 is an extract from an essay on my site called Common Characteristics of Indian Philosophy based on a book 7 systems of Indian Philosophy by Pandit Rajmani T of the Himalayan Institute. So when we talk of religion today, we must check the characteristics of their philosophy, is it common, to my mind religion is nothing but spirituality and rituals. 5. Love for Motherland, Vedic view - There is a full chapter in the Rig Veda on the subject of love for motherland (1-80). Atharva 12.1.62 "O Mother land! If need be, we thy sons are ready to sacrifice our lives to protect your honor. May we remain united and defeat all our adversaries". So love for motherland, Bharat, is always associated with followers of Indian religions. During the partition of Bengal in 1905, the song Vande Mataram by Bankim Chandra Chatterjee became very important. It was a hymn for the love of motherland sublimated into a devotion to the Divine Mother Bharat. In that vision was manifest the trinity of Saraswati (the goddess of knowledge), Lakshmi (the goddess of wealth and beauty) and Durga (the goddess of strength and energy). Yu see the Hindus never opposed the song but the Muslims did because for them there is no concept of Motherland, there is what we are seeing clearly post Sept 11, Pan Islamicism. Instead the Muslims read Iqbal gave us Sareh jahaan see aacha by Muhammad Iqbal. 6. I quote Swami Vivekananda - "From the spiritual flights of the Vedanta philosophy, of which the latest discoveries of science seem like echoes, to the low ideas of idolatry with its multi various mythology, the agnosticism of the Buddhists and the atheism of the Jains, each and all have a place in the Hindu's religion". 7. Now lets look at a patriots definition. I quote Veer Savarkar " A Hindu is a person who regards his land as Bharat-Varsha from the Indus to the Seas as his fatherland as well as his Holyland, that is the cradle land of his religion". For a Hindu, Jain, Buddhist, Sikh using modern day connotations he is firmly aligned to only one country Bharat, he could become a citizen of the U.S. but Bharat is where he belongs, his roots lie there. Now take the Muslims - they protest against the bombings in Afghanistan, Pakistan, are quick to declare Fatwas against Hindus, Christians but when innocent Hindus are massacred in Kashmir and elsewhere by Muslim jehadis groups there is silence. Another e.g. Khilafat movement in the 1920s, the Indian Muslims were protesting against events in Turkey, now how on earth did it concern them when their own nation bharat was under foreign rule. Lets take the Indian Christains, if they are to be part of the Indian fabric, why must their churches be aligned with the Vatican, or the Evalengists of North America. Another thought - Foreign monies pours into India - persons of Indian origin i.e. Hindus, Sikhs, jains etc worldwide remit money for charitable causes, on the other hand it is not only Indian Muslims and Christians who remit money but Muslims and Christian countries whose aim is political, conversions and social. By this example too the followers of these four sects fall within the definition of modern day Hinduism. let me rephrase it - followers of all religions that originated in Bharat are Hindus. When a child is in a problem he thinks of his mother first, so also a follower of an Indian religion thinks of Bharat when he is in a problem be it Fiji, Africa, U.S. Unlike the Muslims, Christians who get help from the Muslim / Christian world and thus will not necessarily think of India. Look fd to yr comments, love and om sanjeev Have referred to the book 7 systems of Indian Philosophy referred to above, The Tragedy of Partition by H V Seshadari, the History and Culture of Indian People by the Bharitya Vidya Bhavan, Chips from a Vedic Workshop by Inder Dev Khosla. Discover your Roots - Visit www.esamskriti.comThe site has 10 sections. 1. Culture and philosophy.2. Wars and foreign affairs.3. Festivals of India.4. Great men of India.5. Ancient India and the outside world.6. History.7. Question and Answers Indian Culture.8. Why.9. 300 photographs of India.10. 369 Quotes Long Live Kshatriya DharamGenerate Positive Vibrations lifelong worldwide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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