Guest guest Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 HARE KRISHNA ! SRI SRI GURU AND GAURANGA KI JAYA ! DEAR KENNETH, PLEASE ACCEPT MY HUMBLE OBEISANCES. I SAW YOUR POST ON ABOUT A VEDIC / VAISHNAVA COMMENTARY ON GENESIS. PLEASE BE CAREFUL NOT TO POLLUTE YOUR MIND WITH ARYOSOPHIC BIBLICAL COMMENTARIES. THE REAL NECTAR IS IN COMPARING THE BONA FIDE SOURCES, NOT IN STUDYING ARYOSOPHIC INTERPRETATIONS OF JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY. GENERALLY WHEN 'HINDUS' ATTEMPT TO INTERPRET THE BIBLE, THEY DO SO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE ARYAN ESOTERICISTS (ARYOSOPHISTS). THIS HAPPENS BECAUSE THE FOUNDATIONAL LITERATURE ON THIS SUBJECT AVAILABLE TO THEM IN INDIA, AND FROM WESTERN 'ESOTERIC' PUBLISHING IS USUALLY FROM ARYOSOPHIC SOURCES. THE END RESULT IS THAT THE UNWITTING INQUIRER ENDS UP HOPELESSLY MENTALLY POLLUTED BY ARYOSOPHISM. SINCE ARYOSOPHISM WAS FUNDAMENTALLY A NORTHERN EUROPEAN RACIST ANTI-SEMITIC, (ANTI ANY 'MONGREL' OR DARK RACE), ANTI-YAHWIST AND ANTI-CATHOLIC PHENOMENON, ALL THE BIBLICAL COMMENTARIES FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE ARE PROFOUNDLY CORRUPT. FOR EXAMPLE, LOUIS JACOLLIOT'S 19TH CENT MULTI VOLUME SERIES ON THE BIBLE IN INDIA. THIS IS A FOUNDATIONAL WORK IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF ARYOSOPHISM. H.P. BLAVATSKY USED IT EXTENSIVELY, AS DID OTHER EURO-ARYANISTS. UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO MY PHYSICAL DISABILITY, I DO NOT HAVE A PUBLISHED COMMENTARY AVAILABLE TO SEND TO YOU. HOWEVER, I HAVE WRITTEN A NUMBER OF LETTERS AND SHORT ARTICLES WHICH ARE CURRENTLY POSTED ON TWO FORUMS UNDER MY NAME AT HARE KRISHNA WORLD NEWSPAPER ONLINE, AND AS A COLUMN ON THE SARAGRAHI WEBSITE. SOME OF THESE DEAL WITH OLD TESTAMENT ISSUES. THE BIBLICAL VEDA / YEDA / OIDA I HAVE STUDIED THE OLD TESTAMENT IN BOTH THE HEBREW AND THE GREEK (SEPTUAGINT AND APOCRYPHA), AND CAN TELL YOU THAT THESE ARE BOTH KRISHNA-BALARAMA (VISHNU) CENTRIC VAISHNAVA TEXTS, AND SHAIVITE- RELATED TEXTS. THE 'JEWISH' SCRIPTURE IN EITHER FORM (HEBREW OR GREEK) IS ABSOLUTELY A VAISHNAVA RECORD, WITH ADDITIONAL STRONG SHAIVITE ASSOCIATIONS. IN FACT THE VERY WORD FOR GOD'S REVEALED KNOWLEDGE IN THE HEBREW IS YEDA / YADA AND IN THE GREEK IS OIDA. THIS IS VEDA ! JUST AS THE SUPREME DEITY'S NAMES YAHU / YESHI AND YISHMA IN HEBREW ARE VASU AND VISHNU IN SANSKRIT, YEDA IS VEDA. BECAUSE THE HEBREW CHARACTERS FOR YOD AND VAU (Y AND V) ARE NEARLY IDENTICAL, AND THERE WAS A CONFOUNDING OF THE PHOENICIAN AND ARCHAIC GREEK LETTERS FOR Y AND V, ANCIENT HEBREW AND GREEK Y AND V WORDS WERE OFTEN CONFOUNDED. THE SOFT 'Y' AND 'V' COULD ALSO YIELD TO A 'U' (OR DOUBLE-U W) SOUND, OR INITIAL VOWEL, THUS BECOMING OIDA OR EIDO ETC. THE JEWISH ('OLD') TESTAMENT YEDA / OIDA TRADITION IS CONTINUED IN THE CHRISTIAN NEW TESTAMENT WHERE ELI-YAHU / HARI-VASU GOD'S KNOWLEDGE IS AGAIN CALLED OIDA / EIDO ( THE ENGLISH WORD 'IDEA' IS FROM OIDA / EIDO) HUNDREDS OF TIMES. TOGETHER THE YD / OIDA WORD IS USED FOR KNOWLEDGE, ESPECIALLY WHAT IS DIRECTLY PERCEIVED OR SEEN, OVER 900 TIMES IN THE HEBREW AND GREEK BIBLE. THIS WORD IS ALSO SPECIFICALLY USED IN REFERENCE TO GOD'S SELF-REVELATION. IN FACT, LIKE SRI KRISHNA'S NAME VEDAYAH, THE JEWISH DEITY IS ALSO CALLED YEDAYAH ! SO WHEN SRI KRISHNA SAYS "BY ALL THE VEDAS I AM TO BE KNOWN" AND THAT HE IS THE KNOWER OF THE VEDAS, IT IS CLEAR THAT THIS INCLUDES THE BIBLICAL TRADITION OF YEDA / OIDA AS WELL. THIS VD ROOT FOR DIRECTLY REVEALED OR PERCEIVED KNOWLEDGE HAS COME THROUGH INTO MODERN ENGLISH SOME VERY INTERESTING WAYS. FOR EXAMPLE... VIDEO (FUN TO COMPARE FORM VIDYA), VISION, WITNESS (ONE WHO HAS SEEN), VISTA, VISUAL, VISIBLE, ID-OL ( FROM ID-LATRIA OR ADORATION OF WHAT IS SEEN, A MISREADING OF ID-LATRIA WHERE ID MEANS 'SELF' , THUS THE PROPERLY CONDEMNED 'IDOLATRY' / ID-LATRIA IS IDIO-TRY OR 'SELF ADORATION'), IDEA, IDEAL (WHAT IS SEEN), WISE, WIZARD, WISDOM, WIT, WTTY, UNWITTING, AND GUISE. THERE ARE SCORES OF RELATED WORDS IN OTHER LANGUAGES. KNOWLEDGE, GENESIS AND GANESHA THE OTHER SANSKRIT RELATED GREEK BIBLICAL WORD FOR KNOWLEDGE IS RELATED TO THE ROOT THE WORD 'KNOWLEDGE' ITSELF. KNOW IS RELATED THE GREEK GNOSIS AND THE SANSKRIT JNAN. THE ANCIENT ROOT JN, GN, KN HAD SEVERAL MEANINGS. PROMINANTLY TWO MEANINGS WERE ASSOCIATED WITH KNOWING AND BEGINNING. Ganesha and beginnings THE GREEKS CALLED THE FIRST BOOK OF THE BIBLE 'GENESIS', BECAUSE IT TOLD THE STORY OF THE BEGINNING. THIS IS THE SUPERFICIAL COMMOM UNDERSTANDING. 35 YEARS AGO I BEGAN A WORD-BY-WORD ANALYSIS OF THE BIBLE IN BOTH HEBREW AND GREEK. IN THE GREEK I BEGAN WITH THE TITLE OF THE FIRST BOOK 'GENESIS' AND SOON DISCOVERED THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER REASON THAT THIS TITLE IS HIGHLY SIGNIFICANT. WHO IS ASSOCIATED WITH HOLY SCHOLARSHIP AND THE RECORDING OF THE VEDAS? IT IS GANESHA. THE WORSHIP OF JANUS / GANESHA / GANA-PATI AS THE 'PATRON' OF ALL BEGINNINGS AND ENDEAVOURS WAS VERY PROMINANT AMONG THE ANCIENT MEDITERRANEAN VAISHNAVAS. AT ROME THE SANCTUARY OF JANUS WAS ASSOCIATED WITH MARS, JUST AS GANESHA IS ASSOCIATED WITH MARUGAN AMONG THE SHAIVITES. THE RITES OF IAN / JANUS WERE SIMILAR TO THOSE OF GANESHA, HE WAS EVEN ESPECIALLY OFFERED SWEETS LIKE GANESHA ! JANUS WAS THE PROTECTOR OF ALL BEGINNINGS, AND DOORS, GATES, THRESHOLDS ETC. THE WORD JAMN / JAMB, AS IN DOOR JAMB, IS THEREFORE NOT FROM GAMB, BUT IS RATHER FROM DOORWAYS BEING SACRED TO JANUS / GANESHA. JANUS HAS THREE FACES. ONE SEES ALL THE PAST, ONE SEES ALL THE FUTURE, AND ONE LOOKS RIGHT AT YOU IN THE PRESENT. THUS HE IS TRI- LOK-ATMA, THE LORD OF PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE. A LOKA IS A LOCUS OR LOCATION, SO HE IS THE LORD, THE SOUL / ATMA OR SELF OF THE TRI LOKAS OR THREE WORLDS OR REALMS. GANESHA'S THREE FACES SEE PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE. THERE ARE VARIOUS STORIES THROUGHOUT THE ANCIENT WORLD EXPLAINING GANESHA'S CHANGE OF HEADS, DIFFERENT HEADS OR MULTIPLE HEADS. LIKE BRAHMA, GANESHA IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE VEDAS, ALL DIVINE REVELATION AND JNAN, SO LIKE BRAHMA, HE IS REVEALED WITH MANY HEADS IN DIFFERENT TRADITIONS. HIS WORSHIP ON THRESHOLDS LIKE DOORWAYS EXTENDS TO THE ASTROLOGICAL AND SEASONAL CHANGES / THRESHOLDS OF TIME, AND TO LIFE-CHANGING PERSONAL AND COLLECTIVE EVENTS. IN ANCIENT ROME, DURING TIMES OF WAR, THE DOOR OF THE TEMPLE OF JANUS WAS KEPT PERPETUALLY OPEN, TO INVITE THE NEW HOPE, A NEW BEGINNING OF PEACE BACK INTO THE CITY. THE MONTH OF JANUARY IS NAMED FOR JANUS, WHO IS INVOKED TO BLESS THE BEGINNING OF EVERY YEAR WITH PEACE AND PROSPERITY. THE FESTIVAL OF JANUS HAS NOW BECOME A GLOBAL EVENT WITH THE POPULAR PAN- CULTURAL 'NEW YEARS' CELEBRATIONS WORLD-WIDE DERIVED FROM THE ROMAN CALENDAR. EVEN THE CHINESE, WHO USE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CALENDAR, CELEBRATED THE ARRIVAL OF JANUARY 1ST IN A HUGE WAY THIS YEAR. THIS REVEALS THE DEEP ATTRACTION OF THE FESTIVAL FOR ALL KINDS AND CLASSES OF HUMANITY. Ganesha and Gnosis / knowledge GANA / JANA IN SANSKRIT HAS THE SAME MEANING AS IN THE GREEK WORD GENE. THERE IS A PUN IN THE EUROPEAN ROOT GEN, BETWEEN THE MEANING FOUND IN GENERATION AND GENESIS, AND THAT MEANING OF GEN RELATED TO GNOSIS, OR KNOWLEDGE. SO THE CONNECTION OF GANAPATI OR GANESHA TO GNOSIS OR JNANA YOGA, THE PATH OF KNOWLEDGE AND BOOKS IS CLEAR. TO THIS DAY GANESHA IS INVOKED AT THE BEGINNING OF ONE'S LIFETIME OR DAILY STUDIES. GANESHA IS GNOSIS. WHEN THEY OPEN THE SCRIPTURES, STUDENTS AND MASTERS ALIKE PRAY TO GANESHA BEFORE BEGINNING THEIR LABORS. AS GAN-ESHVARA, HE IS GEN, JNAN, GNOSIS, KNOW-ING PERSONIFIED, THE VERY BEING AND SPIRIT OF KNOWLEDGE OR JNAN. THESE HOLY NAME PUNS ARE NOT TO BE OVER LOOKED OR TAKEN LIGHTLY, FOR THERE IS GREAT, PROFOUND REVELATORY DEPTH IN THE NAMES OF GOD. EACH HOLY NAME IS A PRICELESS SELF-REVELATION OF THE DIVINE ! LANGUAGE PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD, RESPECTFULLY APPROACHED IS A TREASURE-TROVE OF THE HOLY NAMES, AND REVELATORY TRUTH. WE MUST RECOVER THE SACRALITY OF LANGUAGE, AND RESTORE SACRED MEANING WHERE IT HAS BEEN LOST. THIS IS CONSCIOUSNESS RAISING, TO RE-CONSECRATE OUR SPEACH AND THUS OUR THOUGHT TO GOD ! GANESHA / GNOSIS IS THE PATRON OF SCRIBES AND SCHOLARS ! GANA- ESHVARA, GANESHA IS ASSOCIATED WITH GENERATION AND THE BEGINNING OF ALL THINGS AND PEOPLES. THUS IT IS NO ACCIDENT OR COINCIDENCE THAT THE GREEKS USED THE WORD 'GENESIS' FOR THE FIRST BOOK OF THE BIBLE. AGAIN IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE GANESHA'S UNIVERSALITY. HIS ICON IS FOUND ON THE ALTERS OF BOTH VISHNU AND SHIVA. HE IS WORSHIPED BY THE SHAKTI WORSHIPERS AS THE BELOVED SON OF PARVATI, AND IN THE SKANDA- MURUGAN TRADITION HE HAS A PROMINANT PLACE. LATER I HOPE THAT I WILL GET THE CHANCH TO DESCRIBE HIS WORSHIP IN THE MEDITERRANEAN AND LEVANT . Ganesha and Genesis IF SOMEONE WANTS TO CLAIM THAT THERE WAS NO RELIGIOUS ASSOCIATION IN THE GREEK MIND OF A 'DEITY' OR SPIRIT WITH 'GENESIS', THEN THEY WILL BE DENYING THE MOST BASIC FACT OF GREEK RELIGION, NAMELY THAT EVERYTHING CONCRETE OR ABSTRACT HAD A DEITY, SPIRIT OR BEING ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THERE WAS A MASCULINE AND FEMININE PAIR, A PATRON AND PATRONESS OR THEOS AND THEA, DEVA AND DEVI ASSOCIATED WITH EVERYTHING. THUS THE GRACES, CHARITIES, MUSES, LOVE, TIME, WAR, HEALTH, RIVER NYADS, TREES, CITIES, ORDER, PEACE, ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING IN GREEK RELIGION WAS 'PERSONIFIED' OR HAD ITS 'IDEA' OR 'SPIRIT' OR DAEMON. SO GENESIS MUST ALSO HAVE HAD, LIKE ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ELSE, A SPIRIT OR PATRON BEING, OR MASCULINE AND FEMININE PAIR OF BEINGS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. GANA-PATI IS THE 'FATHER' OR GENERATOR PATRON OF ALL BEGINNINGS. 'IN THE BEGINNING' IS THE TRANSLATION OF THE FIRST WORDS OF THE BIBLE (JEWISH SCRIPTURES). IN THE GREEK SEPTUAGINT VERSION, THESE FIRST WORDS ARE "EN ARCHE..". IF THE NAME OF THE BOOK IS SUPPOSEDLY THE WORDS 'IN THE BEGINNING', THEN WHY IS IT NOT "EN ARCHE" ? THE ROOT 'GIN' IN THE WORDS BE-GIN-NING AND ORI-GIN GIVES A CLUE. GIN IN THE NORTHERN EUROPEAN LANGUAGES, LIKE GEN IN GREEK IS ORIGINALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPIRIT OF GENERATION AND ALL BEGINNINGS, THE LORD'S FORM AS GANA-PATI OR GAN-ESHVARA / GANESHA. AT VERY ANCIENT ROME HE WAS GALLED JANUS. IF THE BIBLE IN GREEK STARTS WITH 'EN ARCHE' THEN THE BOOK WAS TITLED 'GENESIS' FOR ANOTHER REASON. CLEARLY IT WAS A RELIGIOUS REASON ASSOCIATED WITH THE AUSPICIOUS INVOCATION OF GANESHA BEFORE ANY READING, COPYING, REMEMBERANCE OR RECITATION OF THE WORD OF GOD. IN THIS WAY, THE ENTIRE GREEK OR HEBREW OIDA OR YEDA CAN BE COMMENTED ON WORD-FOR-WORD FROM THE 'VEDIC' VAISHNAVA AND SHAIVITE SPIRITUAL- THEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL 'HINDUS' ABOUT THIS FOR 30 YEARS, BUT DUE TO SOME LEADERS' EXTREME PREJUDICE AGAINST JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY, MY WORK HAS BEEN SUPPRESSED. I HAVE BEEN IN FACT VERY BADLY TREATED BY SOME 'HINDUS' FOR EVEN BEING INVOLVED WITH JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY. IF ANYONE IS SERIOUS TO GET BEYOND ARYANIST RACISM TO LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT OUR ANCIENT PAST AS ONE PEOPLE OF GOD, PLEASE PUT ASIDE ANY PREJUDICE AGAINST ANCIENT SEMITIC TRADITION AND READ THE BIBLE IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGES OF GREEK AND HEBREW. COMPARE WHAT YOU FIND WITH BOTH VAISHNAVA AND SHAIVITE SANSKRIT AND DRAVIDIAN BHAKTI SOURCES, AND IF YOU ARE HONEST, YOU WILL HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THERE ARE PROFOUND CONNECTIONS ON EVERY LEVEL. WHEN WILL WE OVERCOME PREJUDICE ? LORD, PLEASE SAVE US FROM OUR MUNDANE, PROUD ID-LATRIA, OUR BLIND AND BLINDING SELF-ADORATION ! I HOPE THESE FEW WORDS ENCOURAGE YOUR FURTHER STUDY IN BONA FIDE SOURCE WORKS. ASPIRING TO SERVE ALL OF THE DEVOTEES OF THE LORD, BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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