Is Bush Nostradamus' Mabus?

April 16, 2002

Is Bush Mabus?

>From John Hogue (Author of Nostradamus prophecies)

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Dear friends,

I have followed the etymological trail for decades, trying to uncover

clues to just what the 16th-century prophet, Michel Nostradamus,

meant when he code named the third and future candidate for one of

his three antichrists as the enigmatic "Mabus." Those of you who have

read my books on Nostradamus have followed my interpretation of his

Third Antichrist eastward towards the future and infernal princes of

the Near East. I still believe that the weight of Nostradamus'

interests and prejudices pull the divining rod of possibility towards

the magnetic hotbed of Middle Eastern and North Africa despots.

Today's Arab and Iranian terrorists and misguided zealots are our

prime suspects. For me the Mabus mug shot is flashed upon the film of

my curiosity by Nostradamus' favored mind-melding "camera" of

classical metaphors. In other words, I have seen him too often color

his prophecies in the Kodak moment of ancient Greek and Roman images

of the future. If the ancient Roman's called the Danube "Hister,"

Nostradamus would hide his Second Antichrist's name behind that

classical Roman label. He would cloak a vision of a child dreaming

his diabolical dreams while resting on the banks of the "Hister" and

hide the name of the young Adolf "Hitler."

My interpreter's hackles rose to attention when I first saw

Nostradamian clues nudging me to consider that the next antichrist

would come from where they once worshipped the "infernal God of

Hannibal." (Century 2 Quatrain 30). I had an epiphany after

discovering the Romanized name given to that Punic god of Carthage,

once Hannibal and the Cartheginias had been conquered and absorbed

into Rome. The Romans renamed their god "Baal HammonThurbo Majus"!

Those of you who are not yet under the spell of anagrams (word plays)

might overlook the fact that one easily replacable letter - as per

the rules of anagram - turns the "j" into a "b" to get Nostradamus'

name for his third antichrist (Majus = Mabus).

I first saw this Mabus-Majus connection in 1985, and since then it

has led me to believe that many a young terrorist tough who, during

the sixties and seventies, passed nearby the ruins of Thurbo Majus'

Carthage - to train at and later apply their infernal trade from the

neighboring headquarters of the Palestinian Liberation Organization -

can stand as candidates for Nostradamus' Mabus, the Third Antichrist.

Moreover, Majus, the former "Baal Hammon," is a Phoenician god who

was worshipped across regions that today include North Africa, Egypt,

Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Iraq and Iran, and the Saudi Arabian

peninsula. Thus I could not resist considering that Nostradamus by

playing "Baal" with us is expanding his classical metaphor to pin the

Third Antichrist label on a terrorist coming from the modern regions

who once worshipped "Majus."

A study of the last two antichrists indicates that most of the

letters needed to decode the name of the Third Antichrist could be

found in his enigmatic name. For instance: PAU NAY OLORON (in Century

8 Quatrain 1) becomes Napaulon Roy (Napoleon King); Hister easily

becomes Adolf "Hitler." So, if Nostradamus is being consistent then

we should find the name of the next and final antichrist virtually

hiding in the letters M-A-B-U-S.

Certainly the next target for the U.S. war on terrorism can be found

by reversing the letters "mabus" to "subam" then reversing any

letters again, such as a "b" into a "d" to get "sudam." That leaves

one the freedom in anagramming to replace one vowel "u" with an "a"

to get "Sadam." The law of eliminating or adding redundancies to

letters allows one to double our "d" to get "Saddam" Hussein.

Play the same game with Usama bin Laden and you can find that u-s-a-m-

a + b has nearly all the fixings to cook Nostradamus' code

name: "Maaus + b." You need not take the "b" from "bin" Laden to

replace one redundant "a," but if you wish you can take the "b" and

get "Maabus" then cut the redundant "a" to get "Mabus."

Even so, a good Nostradamus scholar never closes the door to a

different possibility.

After the events of 9-11, I have received what I might call "new

leads" from hundreds of you out there. Many of the leads are products

of ignorance and naïveté, but some of you are onto something.

The following emails from members of my newsletter list are perhaps

some of the most cogent examples of what hundreds of you have

suggested ia a new candidate for the Mabus enigma - a world leader

living far closer to home than the distant and disturbed Middle East.

The first email is from Robert Davis, who granted me permission to

share it with you all. Robert stated, "I believe you are missing a

major point in your analysis, why do we continually assume the 3rd

antichrist will come from the East? The first 2 did not, granted they

are the most obvious choice at the moment but we are ignoring one

inescapable fact. There is only one superpower capable of bringing

total devastation upon the world, the USA! They already bring "terror

from the sky" and have taken the first step to ignoring human rights

and rules of war etc. I believe George Bush deserves investigation as

perhaps the 3rd antichrist. To bring evil upon the world does not

necessitate being perceived as evil ,war has a momentum of it's own

and quite often outstrips the best intentions of men. Just a

thought!!"

Next we have a letter from Antonio Alvarez, who, like many of those

who write in this vein, have stated no animosity against the U.S.

president but cannot deny that Nostradamus' rules of anagram must

consider the possibility - no matter how far fetched it might seem -

that Nostradamus intended G. W. Bush as "Mabus." I have received

permission from Antonio to share some extracts of his letter with you

all:

"It was very interesting to read in the Hogue Prophecy Archive, 4

June 2001 ["Who will be Mabus?"

http://www.hogueprophecy.com/archiv20.htm], the way you tried to

decode the name Mabus to try to find out who Mabus could be. But in

all your decodings you did not try another possibility. If you take

the first two letters of Mabu, that is "Ma", and rotate them 180

degrees, and then you mirror the turned around "a" you will get "gW",

then you add "bus", the resulting name is "gWbus". Rotate 180

deg. "Ma" you get "pW", then you mirror "p" and turn it into "g",

add "bus" and you get gWbus. The president of the United States is

George W. Bush, and in Latin languages the "h" is silent, so it would

be "George W. Bus", you use only the inititial of the first name, and

you get "GWBUS". Don't you think this is another possibity?"

My answer to David, Antonio and hundreds of you out there who have

written me similar letters - and the hundreds of thousands of you who

have not written but I sense hold the same premonition - is the

following:

Yes, the decoding of Mabus for Bush cannot be ruled out. It may also

be possible that Nostradamus has mistakenly seen a composite of

several people as one figure. Since my first book, written back in

1986, I have posed a theory that the farther Nostradamus looks into

the future the more likely is the chance that the strangeness of our

distant times are cloudier and harder to interpret through the filter

of a mind programmed by the limitations of the 16th century.

Certainly leaders bound together by a dark destiny can be mistaken as

one and the same antichrist. Moreover, one culture's hero is another

culture's hellion. For example, back in September of 1990, a full

four months before President Bush Sr. launched Operation Desert Storm

against Saddam Hussein's Iraq, I wrote the following observations

which later appeared on page 226 of the deluxe illustrated edition of

The Millennium Book of Prophecy in 1994 (you can also find this

passage on page 258 of the paperback edition):

"Then there's Nostradamus, always ready to catch one's projections in

the flypaper of his obscurity. Century 8 Quatrain 70 could adequately

describe the ascent of Saddam Hussein and perhaps refers to the

subsequent alliance of some Arab states with America in Operation

Desert Storm: He will enter, wicked, unpleasant, infamous,

tyrannizing over Mesopotamia [iraq]. All friends made by the

adulterous Lady: the land dreaded and black in aspect.

"Nostradamus often used symbols for countries. Christian-programmed

interpreters might figure this adulterous Lady to be the modern-day

Babylon of Baghdad. An Iraqi interpreter of Nostradamus might think

she represents America's hypocritical "Statue of Liberty." An Islamic

interpreter would perhaps say Nostradamus is implicating the "great

Satan" America as modern-day Babylon. Moreover, pro-American Arab

leaders are her evil friends..."

I added the following coda in 1991 before publication:

"...If your childhood was spent in a Palestinian concentration

(excuse me) refugee camp, it is quite clear who the wicked,

unpleasant, infamous, tyrannizing fellow entering Mesopotamia was.

American coalition forces entered Iraq with an air and land offensive

after 17 January 1991, so the prediction could also stand for the

past or future American president. Prophecy doesn't care about the

West's identification with being the good guys."

The final judgment of time and events as they actually transpire

still do not care.

President Bush senior is eclipsed by the future President Bush

junior, who clearly is poised to launch the United States into

another Gulf War against Saddam Hussein in our near future. I think

you will see the war ultimatums coming this May, followed by the

attack on Iraq either in early July or as late as October, just prior

to the mid-term U.S. elections. The only thing that might delay the

plan is an unraveling of the Middle East in this Easter's dawning

Arab-Israeli war

I for one still say that Nostradamus intended Mabus to be a North

African or Middle Eastern figure because of the prophet's use of

classical metaphors.

However...

The court of future history and events will be the judge.

As far as I can interpret the Mabus/Third Antichrist prophecies of

Century 2 Quatrain 62 and Century 8 Quatrain 77, the criterion the

future will use to reach that judgment depends of the fulfillment of

the following events:

1.) Whoever Mabus is, he is one of the first to fall in the war he

launches, be it a war on America or a war on terrorism.

2.) His death will be war cry for revenge and there will be a

devastating counterattack.

3.) The reaction to his martyrdom and the counterattack will set in

motion a 27-year war that only sees terrorism as its first stage but

could eventually escalate and widen its theater of destruction to

include an exchange of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons

between a number of nations. This may include the worst-case scenario

of a potential three-way war fought between the United States, Russia

and China over food and other resources in the 2020s.

I believe the fulfillment of the first two steps is likely to happen

before the end of 2002.

Yasser Arafat (his PLO code name being [m]Abu Amar) may soon die a

martyr. Easter 2002 has seen the beginning of "The Field of Thorns" -

Yasser Arafat's code name for a calculated last stand against Israeli

occupation of the West Bank. If Arafat becomes a martyr, as he

believes he soon will be, and if in response the Arab world rises up

in a region-wide war against Israel and its American ally, then he

could be Nostradamus' intended Mabus.

If it is not Yasser Arafat, then another Arab martyr could come from

the actions of the United States moving blindly forward with their

plans to invade Iraq to overthrow Saddam Hussein. I have stated since

1997 that Nostradamus' quatrains imply that Saddam would face death

from a cruise missile cutting into the bowels of one of his

reinforced bunkers.(See pg. 740-741 of Nostradamus: The Complete

Prophecies). Thus he, as the Mabus prophecy says, "soon dies." If his

rapid extermination makes him Mabus then expect a "horrible undoing

of people and animals" coming as a result of the post-Saddam Iraq

disintegrating. The collapse of Iraq could destablize the Middle East

while it might draw another president from Texas into his own version

of the Vietnam quagmire.

Now, for Mabus to be the American president, "gW Bus(h)," he,

regrettably, must be one of the first to fall in his war on

terrorism. It must be noted that the American president has often

made forceful, albeit linguistically simplistic and repetitive,

attempts to remind the American people that his war on terror could

last for "twenty to thirty years." If he were to be killed and it was

proven that his death came from the hands of terrorists, then you

will see the "terrible undoing of people and animals" coming from an

all-out American revenge attack on those nations of the East that are

viewed by the Bush administration as part of the Axis of Evil.

I believe that this travail-full year of 2002 will not pass without

my being able to declare who, or what, Nostradamus' intended for

Mabus.

The lands populated by humans will become uninhabitable, Great

disagreement and discord in order to obtain lands: Kingdoms given to

men incapable of prudence, Then for the great brothers [usually

implying Russia and America] death and dissention. C2 Q95

History runs at a fast pace and it seems to me that the issues of

this bulletin can only touch on themes that require far more in-depth

examination. For those of you who want a more detailed dissertation

on topics like Mabus/Bush, the Middle East and the possible futures

born out of the events of 9-11, I wish to cordially invite you to

read the just recently released Third Edition of my most popular

Nostradamus book entitled: Nostradamus the New Millennium. It should

be available at your local book store, or you can purchase it for a

discount by going through the link at my home page

[http://www.hogueprophecy.com].

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

I wish to end this newsletter on a more uplifting note by sharing a

collective response to another commonly asked question:

The attack on 9-11-01 leaves me shocked and mute. The mounting war

fever and the national denial of America's part in our dysfunctional

relationship with the Middle East seems unaddressed by the policies

and actions of the current administration. It seems we are marching

blindly off to war and my children are asking, "Why?" What words of

encouragement or at least what explanation would you give to children

about this attack? What would you tell them is the cause of their

parents repeating the mistakes and wars of the past in the near

future?

Just remember that this current travail is caused by humanity being

unconscious and conditioned to be predictable. It is possible that

the dire events of the coming 30-to-100 years will inspire enough

people to break with the past and its misery and conditioned

reactions to give birth to a new and spiritually harmonious humanity.

But this humanity will not come from collective actions. It will come

one individual at a time. If you ask me what to tell children, I will

say this: always seek love and awareness at all costs. Know that

being authentic will get you in trouble, but do not stop being

authentic, no matter how difficult it may be living in a world that

supports dreamers rather than helping us to re-awaken the birthright

of bright glory that a society of sleepwalkers conditions us to

suppress. And finally, let me say to the children that their

innocence is the source of all hope and genius for the present and

the future. Do not allow grown-ups to suppress this birthright of

innocence. Do not be angry with them if they try (because they will

try). Be compassionate to them. Feel sympathy for them. They were

once like you. The grown-ups have lost what you have not yet lost.

That is why they are always afraid and angry with each other and go

to war. They were once open and smart. Now they are knowledgeable and

stupid. Allow them to help you function in this world. Everyone needs

a functional name and needs words to communicate to others, but do

not be identified with your name, your country and your words. Do not

borrow anyone else's experience, rather, learn not to repeat their

mistakes. Only follow your own experience and never let even well-

meaning grown-ups trespass upon your innocence and turn you into

frightened and divided souls. This is the great challenge. Learn how

to live in the world but not "of" the world. If you can do this then

each of you will bring us one life lived closer to the birth of a new

and harmonious humanity.

With tenderness, eternity and love,

Book By John Hogue Rogue Scholar/Author:

Nostradamus: The New Millennium Nostradamus: The Complete Prophecies

Messiahs, The Visions and Prophecies for the Second Coming The Last

Pope: The Decline and Fall of the Church of Rome The Millennium Book

of Prophecy 1000 for 2000 Startling Predictions for the New

Millennium

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Comment

>From Samson David

4-3-2

Jeff,

Sometimes I think the Americans look at themselves in the mirror with

rose colored glasses. Why is it always that the 3rd Antichrist won't

come from the US..? It's always Saddam Hussein or Yasser Arafat or

Osama Bin Laden or whoevfer is in the US media's "sights" for that

moment. By the author's own deductions.. this is the way that the 3rd

Antichrist will appear.

1.) Whoever Mabus is, he is one of the first to fall in the war he

launches, be it a war on America or a war on terrorism.

2.) His death will be war cry for revenge and there will be a

devastating counterattack.

3.) The reaction to his martyrdom and the counterattack will set in

motion a 27-year war that only sees terrorism as its first stage but

could eventually escalate and widen its theater of destruction to

include an exchange of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons

between a number of nations. This may include the worst-case scenario

of a potential three-way war fought between the United States, Russia

and China over food and other resources in the 2020s.

Ok, so thats the way it's coming. I have no issue with point 1.. The

issue I have is with... POINT 2!!

Let me see, how many countries have the capability to inflict

a "devastating counterattack"..?"

Hmm. let me see, Yasser Arafat..? Well, I'm sure that if he had any

capability for this, he wouldn't be holed up in 2 rooms of his

office.

Saddam Hussein....? Don't joke.. What ever capability he has, he

doesn't have the capability to attack anyone.. (especially if he's

not around to direct the process... He'd be dead accoiding to Point 1

remember..?

Osama Bin Laden..? Sure sure...maybe. But it's not like he's got a

huge army or anything that would be able to sustain a 27 year war..

That's leaves the US. Big army..?? Hell, yeah.. Able to dish out

a "devastating counterattack"..? Hell, yeah.. Dubya playing with fire

all over the world..? Hell, yeah.. Would the US be able to serve up

a "devastating counterattack" without Georgie..? Hell, yeah.. Heck,

they might be better at it without Dubya running around asking "Gee

what does this button do..?"

So, I beleive the he IS the Mabus Nostradamus spoke of...although not

a very bright one...

May 3, 2002

Given the myriad different ways of interpreting Nostradamus, how is it that you

seem to

have eliminated the possibility that he was a cuckoo? I'm not saying that he

was, but

how do you know?

My favorite Hindu sage once wrote that the world will not end for many cycles of

yugas to come, so I think I will take comfort in that and not panic. Granted,

terror is

easy to succumb to in these troubled times, but even the death of all worlds

will not

change the changeless refuge we are put here to seek and find.

Ron Philo

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