Fw: Arun Gandhi Vs Bipin Patel

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- bipin.patel

gandhi (AT) cbu (DOT) edu

Cc: hinduvoice

Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:18 PM

Arun Gandhi Vs Bipin Patel

Arun

 

Very many thanks for your email.

 

In view of the content of your email, it is safe for me to assume that you have

assumed that I am an RSS or Hindu Mahasabha member. I, in the name of Satyavan

HarishChandra, swear that I am, as yet, NOT. This just to clear any dark

clouds, if any.

 

Now, on the subject matter.

 

You say, (with an angered request to get my history right) that 'It was not

because of the Khilafat Movement that the Muslims were alienated but because of

the activities of the Hindu Mahasabha and the RSS in creating instability among

the Muslims...... '

 

Well, here is some of (His-Story), history; have you read the book

"Constitutional Law of India" , Third Edition, Reprint with Supplement, 1988,

by H.M.Seervai? That book's Section IV is based on secret documents finally

made public by the British Government. That Section reveals that what Jinnah

wanted, in order to avoid Partition, was a "parity" between 90 million Muslims

and 200 million Hindus in government formation. This parity proposal was not

acceptable to the Congress as well as to the Hindu Mahasabha. And Gandhi? He

thought the parity proposal "was worse than Pakistan."

 

Would this (now comfortably) make you accept that Gandhi's association with the

Khilafat movement was the beginning of introducing religion in politics and was

therefore a disaster for the future of India?

 

The brilliant son of India, Vinyak Damodar Sawarkar, did understand this. Read

his, Mazi Janmateep, where in he emphasised that Khilafat would prove an

'affat' - calamity.

 

Again, from history, in August 1921, towards the end of Khilafat movement, in

the Moplah rebellion, thousands of Hindus were butchered; women were subjected

to shameful indignities. Thousands of Hindus were converted to Islam; entire

Hindu families were burnt alive (the latest Godhara carnage, was a micro

Moplah), women in hundreds threw themselves into wells to avoid dishonour. YET

MOHANDAS REGARDED THESE MURDERERS, LOOTERS AND RAVISHERS AS GOD-FEARING

MUSLIMS!!!!

 

Hey, buddy, even after this Hindu Muslim unity became an obsession with Mohandas

to such an extent that he never checked the muslim khilafatist leaders like

Yakub Hussan, Mahomed Ali and Shaukat Ali who openly declared their devilish

ambition to convert crores of Hindus to Islam, nor did he condemn the muslim

murderers like Abdul Rashi who murdered Swami Shraddhanand.

 

Of my dear Arun, Read on. In Young India of 4th May 1921, supporting the

invasion of Hindustan by Amir of Afghanistan (which had been hatched by

Khilafatist leaders), Gandhi openly declared, " I would, in a sense, certainly

assist the Amir of Afghanistan if it waged war against British government".

Arun, would you not consider this as a treacherous act. History states that

even Dr Babasaheb Amdedkar said that every sane Indian would dissociate himself

from such a mad and dangerous project. Mohandas even had an audacity to describe

Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj as a misguided patriot.

 

Oh lo! On 14th June 1947 at the All India Congress Committee (see full report in

Times of India dated 16th June 1947), it was this Mohandas who threw his whole

weight in favour of the British plan on 3rd June 1947 making the final

partition of India. Ah, This truth seeker really practised what he preached.

Ten years earlier he had openly declared "Needless to say, the Congress can

never seek the assistance of British forces to resist the vivisection. It is

the Muslims who will impose their will by force, singly or with British

assistance, on an unresisting India. If I can carry the Congress with me, I

would not put the Muslims to the trouble of using force. I would be ruled by

them, for it would be still Indian rule".

 

What are lumbered with in Gandhi's India today? ISI's agents. Hindus must rise

and awake to the real danger ahead; else there will me many more pakistans in

today's left over India. Thank Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.

 

Finally, the above are truth from history, Arun. We must seek the truth, just as

this seeking of truth was the condition of Nathuram Godse in his letter dated

3rd June 1949 (from his prison cell), in reply to Ramdas Gandhi's (who I

believe was the Editor of Hindustan Times at that time) letter of 17th May

1949.

 

Arun, what do you think so far?

 

More later on, only if you want me to continue. I promise that I will not take

it as any audacity of yours.

 

 

 

With regard and, Vande Mataram.

 

Bipin.

 

Are you a member of any Hindu groups on the Internet? I am posting a copy of this there. AUM KRANTI.

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Arun Gandhi

bipin.patel

Monday, May 13, 2002 6:58 PM

RE: Islamiste terroir mail

It is easy to blame the ills of India on Gandhi because he is not there to

defend himself. Why don't you blame it on the other Gandhis and the RSS and

Hindu Mahasabha? It was not because of the Khilafat Movement that the Muslims

were alienated but because of the activities of the Hindu Mahasabha and the RSS

in creating instability among the Muslims. It was in 1942 that the Muslims

demanded Pakistan. If the RSS and the Hindu Maghasabha were so eager to retain

India as a whole why did they create the instability? Why did they not support

Gandhiji when he said he did not want the country to be partitioned? Why did

everyone abandone Gandhiji at that time? Get your history right first.

 

Arun Gandhi Founder Director M.K.Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence 650 East

Parkway South Memphis TN 38104 Tel:(901)452-2824; FAX: (901)452-2775 email:

gandhi (AT) cbu (DOT) edu web: www.gandhiinstitute.org

bipin.patel [bipin.p (AT) virgin (DOT) net]Sent:

Monday, May 13, 2002 11:58 AMgandhi (AT) cbu (DOT) eduSubject: Re: Islamiste terroir

mail

Arun

 

Thank you for your email.

 

In view of the content of your reply to me I could only suggest that you

communicate directly with the original sender (Agni in Holland) for its

veracity so that you could satisfy yourself.

 

If you say that I should be ashamed for any thing, then the most I am ashamed of

is of M K Gandhi's blindness - despite being a great moralist he could not

comprehend muslim minds (Khilafat movement (eventually leading to vivisection

of India, with crores of muslims in India, many of them still anti India) is a

prime example amongst many more blunders of Gandhi.

 

Whole India is suffering today because of Gandhi blunders. May be you could

start a branch of your institute in Srinagar and test yourself there. I am sure

you have the required courage.

 

Vande Mataram.

 

Bipin Patel

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Arun Gandhi

bipin.patel

Monday, May 13, 2002 4:57 PM

RE: Islamiste terroir mail

You should be ashamed of spreading such falsehoods on the internet and email.

If you did get such a letter you should have taken it to the police and not

spread lies around the world. You are no less a hate-monger than Hitler who

spread lies and caused holocausts. Take me off your list and don't ever send

me such filth.

 

Arun Gandhi Founder Director M.K.Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence 650 East

Parkway South Memphis TN 38104 Tel:(901)452-2824; FAX: (901)452-2775 email:

gandhi (AT) cbu (DOT) edu web: www.gandhiinstitute.org

bipin.patel [bipin.p (AT) virgin (DOT) net]Sent:

Saturday, May 11, 2002 6:10 PMBipin PatelFw: Islamiste terroir

mailImportance: High

 

- agni

bipin.patel

Cc: d_ramautarsing (AT) hotmail (DOT) com ; werkgroepagni (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:03 PM

Islamiste terroir mail

 

Namaskar,Please forward this message..very urgend

Islamiste terroir mail…The Hindu organizations in Holland have a got a

letter from an Al Qaidia network in Holland. In this letter the have also find

anthrax.(This is the translation of the letter that we have got from the Al

Qaidia group).In the name of Allah we want that the Hindu organizations in

Holland and also the temple should close. Because this is what Allah want. We

are going to rape the young Hindu girls, and they have to give us children.

This is happening now in England, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan, and now

this is going to happen in Holland.Islam is the first real religion of Mekka and

now we want that the Islam should be a Muslim Nation (Mekka of the western

World).You can only find the true in the Koran(the religion Islam book).And now

we are going to kill the Hindu dogs and we are going to rape the Hindu hooker

girls, all the Hindu people should be our slaves.This is what we want, in the

name of Allah:1. You have to stop all the Hindu Organization and close the

temple.2. We want in 3 weeks time $10.000 EURO, give this to the Muslim mosque

in your city.3. Close your buildings and quit all your work for the Hindu

people, because you have now The Muslim Nation(Mekka of the western World).

4. Let hundred Hindu girls go to the mosque, let them married and bare children

for Allah.5. The whole Hindu organization should be stop included the

government.If you don’t do this in 3 weeks, then we are going to kill the

government of your organization, rape your wives and girls.Put your house on

fire, buildings, where are going to throw bombs.We are going to kill every

Hindu dog until the last Hindu dog is dead.This is your punish for all the

people who is going to vote on Pim Fortuyn(a Dutch politician, because he said

that the Islam is a stupid religion) If this dog wins the preference than we

will kill you all.Our guns and spy, killers are watching you day and night. Do

what the Muslim people want, otherwise we are going to kill you all, Allah

speaks.The Jihad against the Hindu dogs has started in Holland now.Allah is the

greatest of all, Mohammed is his only prophet. The Koran is the book of the

true, the only true…book of Allah.Secret cell of Al Qaida

Netherlands.(You are dead now: Anthrax of Allah).