Krsna means dark? Bala means a demon? BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI ANSWERS

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Krsna means dark? Bala means of a demon? BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI ANSWERS

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Monday, June 24, 2002 6:15 PM

Krsna means dark? Bala means of a demon?

 

THIS EXCHANGE WITH A CATHOLIC VAISHNAVA STUDENT HAS BEEN EDITED FOR PUBLIC DISTRIBUTION

Dear Bhakti Ananda Goswami Maharaja,

 

I met ...............

 

He insists that Prabhupada changed the Bhagavatam and Gita substantially to center on Krsna.

 

NONSENSE. ONLY THE MAYAVADIS, TANTRIC SHAIVITES OR OTHERS TRYING TO APPROPRIATE

OR DISCREDIT THE BHAGAVATAM AND GITA WOULD MAKE SUCH A PREPOSTEROUS CLAIM. HE

HAS OBVIOUSLY FALLEN UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SOME SUCH PERSON (S). AS PART OF

MY DEGREE WORK I COMPARED 5 DIFFERENT TRANSLATIONS OF THE GITA. IT WAS ONLY

THE THE MAYAVADI TRADITION THAT TRIED TO REDUCE SRI KRISHNA TO A MERE

'SELF-REALIZED' ADVAITA VEDANTIST. I HAVE READ THE ENTIRE BHAGAVATAM, MANY OF

THE UPANISHADS, AND OTHER 'VEDIC' AND VAISHNAVA AND SHAIVITE AND DEVI WORSHIPING

TEXTS, AND THE MAHABHARATA (WITH THE GITA) AND SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM ARE CLEARLY

ORIGINALLY KRISHNA-CENTRIC TEXTS. BESIDES CONFIRMATION FROM THE EASTERN

SOURCES, THE WESTERN BHAKTI SOURCES CONFIRM HELIOS KOUROS / KRISHNA AS THE

ORIGIN OF ALL OF THE 'GODS'. SEE JANE HARRISONS WORK ON THE HYMN TO MEGHISTOS

KOUROS, IN HER BOOK "THEMIS". HELIOS KOUROS AND HIS SHEKINAH RHODA ON THE ISLE

OF RHODES WERE CONSIDERED THE ORIGIN OF ALL AND WERE THE SOURCE OF ALL

MEDITERRANEAN SO-CALLED SOLAR MONOTHEISM. THE LONG-REIGNING (FOR THOUSANDS OF

YEARS !) TRADITION OF HELIOPOLIS EGYPT WAS DERIVED FROM THE WORSHIP OF KOUROS

AND RHODA ON RHODES. HERI -ASU (HELIOS / HORUS) 'THE ELDER' IN EGYPT WAS THE

SUPREME GODHEAD OF PREDYNASTIC EGYPT AND AFRICA. THE SATTVIC WORSHIP OF HERI /

ELI (HEBREW) REMAINED SUPREME IN EGYPTIAN AND AFRICAN ASCETIC MONOTHEISM UNTIL

THE FOLLOWERS OF MOHAMMED ALL BUT TOTALLY DESTROYED THE ANCIENT ASCETIC /

SATTVIC TRADTIONS OF HERI / ELI THERE. SO THE CHARGE THAT SRI KRISHNA IS A

MINOR CHARACTER WHO WAS EXAULTED BY HIS DEVOTEES OVER 'VEDIC' TRADITION IS JUST

NONSENSE.

 

THAT SRI KRISHNA IS BHAGAVAN IS AN INDISPUTABLE FACT ACCEPTED BY EVERY

TRADITIONAL SCHOOL OF VAISHNAVISM, AND MANY (RIGHT HAND, OR SATTVIC) SHAIVITES

AND DEVI WORSHIPPERS TOO. I AM CONTINUALLY EXPOSED IN MY INTERFAITH WORK TO

THE ATTACKS OF 'HINDUS' ON JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY, AND THOSE OF CHRISTIANS

(MOSTLY PROTESTANT FUNDAMENTALISTS, BUT SOME CATHOLICS TOO) ON 'HINDUISM'. THE

COMMUNISTS, MUSLIMS AND SECULAR HUMANISTS ALSO SPEND A LOT OF ENERGY TRYING TO

DISCREDIT KRISHNA OR RAMA OR THEIR WORSHIP AS DEMONIC OR SUPERTITIOUS AND

MYTHOLOGICAL RATHER THAN THEOLOGICAL / TRUE THEISM.

 

THESE ATHEISTIC AND SECTARIAN ATTACKS ARE EXACTLY WHY I HAVE WARNED YOU THAT YOU

MUST NOT BE NAIVE ABOUT THESE HOSTILE DIVISIVE FORCES. THE DEVIL IS GOING ABOUT

LIKE A LION SEEKING PEOPLE TO DEVOUR. UNLESS YOU PUT ON THE WHOLE ARMOUR OF

GOD'S TRUTH, YOU WILL EASILY FALL PREY TO THE ADVERSARY'S LIES AND DISTORTIONS.

IT IS NOT GOOD WHEN A PART OF A PERSON'S FAITH IS PREDICATED ON DANGEROUSLY

ERRONEOUS IDEAS, WHICH ARE COMPELLING THEM TO SIN AGAINST OTHER DEVOTEES AND

THE LORD HIMSELF. THIS PERSON SOUNDS JUST LIKE A FUNDAMENTALIST HUNDU PERSON

OR PROTESTANT SPREADING HATEFUL DISINFORMATION.

 

SPIRITUAL WARFARE AGAINST THE 'ACCUZER OF THE BRETHREN' AND THE 'FATHER OF LIES'

MEANS KNOWING THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND THUS FULLY ARMOURED, BEING ABLE TO WITHSTAND

THESE KINDS OF DIS-INFORMATION ATTACKS. IF ONE SUCH ATTACK HAS DISTURBED YOU,

THEN YOU NEED TO STUDY MUCH MUCH MORE BEFORE YOU ARE READY TO LEAD OTHERS

THROUGH THE DANGERS OF THIS AGE TO THE WHOLE TRUTH OF GOD. YOU SHOULD NOT

INVOLVE YOURSELF WITH PERSONS WHO CAN SO EASILY CONVINCE YOU OF SUCH NONSENSE.

IF HE HAD NOT MADE AN IMPRESSION ON YOU OR CAUSED SOME DOUBT TO ARISE IN YOU,

THEN YOU WOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN TO ME ABOUT HIS CHARGES.

 

The Hare Krsna mantra is mentioned no where in the Veda's upanishads, or elsewhere.

 

THIS IS THE COMMON CHARGE OF THE MAYAVADIS WHO DO NOT ACCEPT THE BHAKTI SHASTRA

AS 'VEDIC'. THE MAHA MANTRA IN VARIOUS FORMS IS FOUND IN THE BHAKTI SHASTRA.

 

After 17 years as a devotee, he watched a tape on Medjugorie and said that he

realized he was worshipping false gods.

 

HE MAY HAVE BEEN WORSHIPPING FALSE GODS. HIS PERSONAL WORSHIP MAY HAVE BEEN

IDOLATROUS. WHATEVER THE CASE, HIS PERSONAL EXPERIANCE CANNOT BE TAKEN AS

NORMATIVE FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD. ALL THE CONCRETE HISTORICAL EVIDENCE

PROVES THAT THE BIBLICAL DEITY OF THE PATRIARCHS AND PROPHETS WAS

KRISHNA-VISHNU AND THEIR HOLY SPIRIT PARAMATMA.. THE MENTALITY THAT HAS BEEN

DENYING THIS FOR CENTURIES IS WHAT MUST BE OVERCOME TO EVEN CONSIDER THE

EVIDENCE. HE IS UNDER THE INFLUENCE NOT OF UNPREJUDICED TRUTH / THE WHOLE

FACTS, BUT OF OLD HATREDS AND DISTORTIONS.

 

He said that he thoroughly checked much reference material and found that that

name Krsna means, dark, darkness, a deer, and evil.

 

ALL THE REFERENCES HE IS REFERING TO, AND THE MODERN ANTI-VAISHNAVA AND

ANTI-HINDU CAMPAIGN TO USE THESE REFERENCES, ARE PART OF THE SAME OLD

PROTESTANT FUNDAMENTALIST TRADITION, WHICH CAN BE OBSERVED AT WORK IN THE

MONIER WILLIAMS OXFORD SANSKRIT-ENGLISH DICTIONARY. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO

UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS, THEN YOU MUST TAKE A SERIOUS, MATURE SCHOLARLY

ATTITUDE. YOU CANNOT JUST BE INNOCENT LIKE PRALADA MAHARAJA. YOU MUST ARM

YOURSELF TO DEFEND THE LORD ! WHEN PRALADA WAS UNDER ATTACK, THE LORD CAME TO

HIS RESCUE. THIS IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION. IN THIS CASE, THE LORD IS UNDER

ATTACK, AND WE MUST COME TO HIS RESCUE. A PRIEST VOWS TO DEFEND THE BLESSED

SACRAMENT WITH HIS LIFE IF NEEDED. WHEN SLANDERS COME AND HERESIES AND

THEOLOGICAL ATTACKS ARE MADE ON THE LORD, HIS SAINTS OR OUR LADY, IT IS THE

DUTY OF THE FAITHFUL TO DEFEND THE LORD, HIS SAINTS, AND ALL THAT IS HOLY.

 

WHEN, DUE TO PURE RACIAL OR ETHNO-CENTRIC PREJUDICE, OR COVERED ATHEISM, OTHER

DEVOTEES AND GOD HIMSELF ARE MALIGNED, WE MUST UNDERSTAND HOW THESE MOTIVES ARE

PLAYING A ROLE IN THE OBSCURRANCE OR DISTORTION OF WHOLE, HEALING TRUTHS. IF

YOU OR ......... HAD STUDIED THE HISTORY OF INTERPRETATION OF THE NAME KRISHNA,

AS I HAVE, YOU WOULD KNOW HOW THE PROTESTANT MISSIONARIES PROMOTED THE MEANING

'BLACK, DARK' WITH AN 'EVIL' CONNOTATION, AGAINST THE TRADITIONAL

INTERPRETATIONS FROM THE KR ROOTS MEANING 'TO ATTRACT OR DRAW, PULL TO ONESELF'

OR BLUE / BLACK 'BLACKISH LIKE A NEW MONSOON CLOUD' . AN OUTRAGEOUS EXAMPLE OF

THIS KIND OF DISTORTION IS IN THE OXFORD DICTIONARY, WHICH OVER A CENTURY OF

ENGLISH SPEAKERS HAVE USED FOR THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE NAME 'KRISHNA'.

.........'S RESEARCH HAS GONE NO FARTHER THAN THE FIRST LEVEL OF EARLY

PROTESTANT ANTI-HINDU MISINFORMATION, AS FOUND IN MONIER-WILLIAMS OXFORD

DICTIONARY, AND ALL WORKS BASED ON IT.

 

Baladeva also means from a demon.

 

AGAIN .................. HAS BEEN BRAIN-WASHED BY THE DISTORTIONS OF THE

ANTI-HINDUS WHO GAVE US THE OXFORD ETC. TRADITION OF PURPOSEFUL DISTORTION AND

MISINTERPRETATION REGARDING THE NAMES OF SRI KRISHNA AND 'HINDU' NAMES OF GOD.

IN ADDITION, THE THERAVADIN BUDDHISTS CONSIDERED BALADEVA TO BE A DEMON, AND

SOME JAINS HAD MANY 'WHITE BALAS' IN THEIR TRADITION, WHICH THE BUDDHISTS

CONFOUNDED WITH DEMONS.

 

He said that only the name of Jesus can save.

 

Comments?

 

ONLY PURUSHA YUPA DHAVAJA, THE ORIGINAL SPIRITUAL MASTER OF THE COSMOS (JESUS /

YASHAS OR NARAYANA, VISHNU) CAN SAVE US ! UNFORTUNATELY, ........ DOES NOT

KNOW WHO 'JESUS' / YASHAS IS BEYOND THE NARROWLY PREJUDICED VIEW HE HAS LEARNED

FROM SOME VERY WRONG, AND SINFULLY UNCHARITABLE SO-CALLED 'CHRISTIAN'

FUNDAMENTALISTS. PREJUDICE IS A SIN. IT IS RELATED TO THE SIN OF PRIDE. IT

IS A SIN AGAINST TRUTH, JUSTICE AND LOVE. IT BLINDS PEOPLE TO THE WHOLE TRUTH,

BY CAUSING THEM TO DENY SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS OF THE TRUTH, OR TO DISTORT

PORTIONS OF THE TRUTH FOR SOME UNCHARITABLE EFFECT / END. IN THIS CASE,

PREJUDICE OR HOSTILITY HAS CAUSED CHRISTIANS (COMMUNISTS, MUSLIMS, TANTRISTS,

NEW-AGERS ETC.) TO PROMOTE A DISTORTION AND MISINTERPRETATION OF THE LORD'S

NAMES, FOR THE EXACT PURPOSE OF DISCREDITING OR DIABOLIZING HIM AS A HINDU

DEMON. IN THE SAME WAY PREJUDICED HINDUS HAVE DIABOLIZED ELI-YAHU / 'JEHOVAH',

JESUS, JUDAISM OR CHRISTIANITY. THUS PREJUDICE BLINDS BOTH HINDUS AND

CHRISTIANS TO THE TRUTH OF THEIR COMMON BHAKTI HERITAGE.

 

THE THERAVADIN BUDDHIST ATHEISTS TEACH THAT KRISHNA AND BALADEVA ARE DEMONS. THE

MAYAVADIS TRY TO MAKE KRISHNA AN ATHEIST ADVAITA VEDANTIST, AND FAILING THAT,

THEY REDUCE HIM TO THE STATUS OF A MYTH OR HUMAN CONCOCTION.

 

I DO NOT HAVE THE ENERGY TO RESPOND TO EVERY BLASPHEMOUS ATTACK COMING FROM SOME

POOR DELUDED PERSON LIKE .........., WHO THINKS THAT 'KRISHNA', WHEN UNDERSTOOD

FROM THE MEANING 'DARK' HAS THE CONNOTATION OF 'EVIL'. IF YOU WANT TO SATISFY

YOURSELF ABOUT THE MEANING OF THE NAMES OF KRISHNA OR BALA DEVA, I HAVE WRITTEN

SOME ON THESE THINGS ELSEWHERE (I WILL TRY TO SEND YOU SOMETHING). ALSO I URGE

YOU TO CALL ME, AND I WILL READ YOU THROUGH THE RELEVANT MONIER-WILLIAMS

DICTIONARY ENTRIES, WHICH CLEARLY SHOW HOW THE HINDUISM-IS-DEMONIC PROTESTANT

PERSPECTIVE BIASED HIS TEXT, ESPECIALLY IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE 'HINDU' NAMES OF

GOD.

 

I UNDERSTOOD FROM YOUR LACK OF RECOGNIZING MANY PROFOUNDLY SIGNIFICANT THINGS IN

THE ASCLEPIUS BOOK, THAT YOU ACTUALLY NEED A TUTORIAL IN ALL THESE KIND OF

THINGS. IT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU TO READ THEM, I MUST TAKE YOU THROUGH THEM.

YOUR HEART HAS BEEN IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT WITHOUT ADEQUATELY INFORMING YOUR

HEAD, YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BE TROUBLED BY 'WINDS OF DOCTRINE' BLOWING YOU ALL

OVER THE PLACE WITH REGARD TO ISSUES THAT YOU ARE NOT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR ON.

 

YOU MUST BE ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED. THE TRUTH MUST BE YOUR OWN...'REALIZED',...

NOT JUST REMEMBERED FROM SOMEONE ELSE'S TEACHING. IF .........., IN HIS MANY

YEARS AS A HARE KRISHNA 'DEVOTEE', HAD EVER HAD ANY ACTUAL REALIZATION OF WHO

KRISHNA-BALARAM AND PARAMATMA ARE, HE COULD NEVER HAVE BECOME CONVINCED BY THE

FUNDAMENTALISTS THAT THEY ARE DEMONS.

 

HE SOUNDS AS THOUGH HE IS SUFFERING FROM 'SPIRITUAL' PRIDE. AFTER SO MANY YEARS

IN THE MOVEMENT, HE HAS 'CONVERTED' TO CHRISTIANITY, AS SOMETHING 'OTHER' AND

OPPOSED TO VAISHNAVISM, RATHER THAN REALIZING THAT CHRISTIANITY AND VAISHNAVISM

ARE CLOSELY RELATED TRADITIONS WORSHIPING THE SAME HISTORICAL AND THEOLOGICAL

DEITY. IT IS THOSE PROUD FUNDAMENTALISTS WHO LACK REALIZATION, WHICH SWITCH

SIDES AS RELIGIONISTS, CONVERTING FROM ONE KIND OF FUNDAMENTALISM TO ITS

OPPOSITE ! OVER THE YEARS I HAVE MET MANY UNREALIZED CATHOLICS WHO HAVE

'BECOME' PROTESTANT FUNDAMENTALISTS. AS CATHOLICS THEY WERE IGNORANT AND AS

PROTESTANTS THEY BECAME EVEN MORE IGNORANT. AS CATHOLICS THEY WERE BLIND

FOLLOWERS AND AS PROTESTANTS, EVEN BLINDER FOLLOWERS. FANATICS OFTEN CROSS THE

LINE TO BECOME FANATICALLY OPPOSED TO WHAT THEY ONCE FANATICALLY PROMOTED.

THEIR DISEASE IS SPIRITUAL PRIDE, WHICH DRIVES THEM INTO EXTREME AND

UNREASONABLE POSITIONS, PRO OR CON. I PREFERE NOT TO GET INVOLVED WITH

FANATICS LIKE ............., BECAUSE THEY ARE EITHER SUBTLY OR GROSSLY

DANGEROUS. THEY ARE FOUNTS OF VAISHNAVA APARADHA. PLEASE DON'T TRY TO INVOLVE

ME WITH HIM OR ANYONE LIKE HIM. IT IS NOT MY JOB TO EXPEND MY ENERGY HAVING TO

FIGHT WITH PEOPLE LIKE HIM. HE IS PROBABLY 'INVINCIBLY' IGNORANT, AS THE CHURCH

WOULD SAY. THAT IS, SO PROUD OF HIS MISUNDERSTANDING POSITION, THAT HE WOULD

RATHER GO TO HELL THAN RENOUNCE IT.

 

MY ADVISE IS TO STAY AWAY FROM HIM, AND PEOPLE / FUNDAMENTALISTS LIKE HIM. YOU

DON'T KNOW ENOUGH YET ABOUT EITHER YOUR OWN CHRISTIAN TRADITION, OR THE

VAISHNAVA TRADITION, TO DEFEND YOUR FAITH FROM FANATICS. STAY AWAY FOM SEVENTH

DAY ADVENTISTS, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, ADVAITA VEDANTISTS / MAYAVADIS AND ALL

OTHER PROUD, EXCLUSIVISTIC FUNDAMENTALISTS. STAY AWAY FROM NEW AGE CORRUPTERS

OF ANCIENT TRADITIONS AS WELL. WHILE CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE IS POSSIBLE WITH

OPEN-MINDED MAIN-STREAM CATHOLICS, SOME CATHOLICS HAVE FALLEN INTO THE DEEP

WELL OF PROTESTANT-LIKE FUNDAMENTALIST THINKING. DESPITE THE GENERAL GLOBAL

INTELLECTUAL LIBERALITY OF CATHOLICISM, SOME CATHOLIC CHARISMATICS ARE NOW VERY

FUNDAMENTALIST. THESE ARE THE MOST AGRESSIVE OF THE ANTI-HINDU CATHOLIC

MISSIONARIES IN INDIA. IT SOUNDS TO ME AS THOUGH ............... HAS COME

UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THIS KIND OF SECTARIAN PROTESTANT-FUNDAMENTALIST-LIKE

PSEUDO-CATHOLICISM.

 

IT IS ESPECIALLY BIZARRE THAT HE ASSOCIATES HIS REVELATION ABOUT 'FALSE GODS'

WITH THE APPARITION OF MARY IN MACEDONIA. OUR LADY'S AUTHENTIC APPARITIONS

CONSISTANTLY PLEAD FOR THE UNITY OF ALL HUMANITY ! SHE CALLS HERSELF THE

MOTHER OF ALL HUMANITY AND PLEADS NOT ONLY FOR CHRISTIAN UNITY, BUT EVEN

INTERFAITH PEACE AND UNITY ! IF ............ WAS REALLY UNDERSTANDING AN

AUTHENTIC MESSAGE OF OUR LADY, HE WOULD BE OPENING HIS HEART, NOT CLOSING IT.

HE WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO INTERFAITH DIALOGUE AND UNDERSTANDING, NOT

FUNDAMENTALIST SECTARIANISM. CATHOLICISM MEANS UNIVERSALISM. TRUE CATHOLICISM

CANNOT BE RECONCILED WITH ANY KIND OF SMALL-MINDED SECTARIANISM OR PREJUDICE.

WHEN I ENCOUNTER 'FUNDAMENTALIST' TYPE CATHOLICS, THE PROFOUND CONTRADICTION

TELLS ME THAT THERE IS SOMETHING VERY WRONG WITH THESE PERSONS. STAY AWAY FROM

DIVISIVE FUNDAMENTALISTS OF ALL KINDS. THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM 'SPIRITUAL

PRIDE' AND THUS COMMIT MANY OFFENCES TO OTHER DEVOTEES AND GODHEAD HIMSELF.

TRY TO ASSOCIATE WITH HUMBLE PERSONS OF GOODWILL, WHO SEEK BETTER

UNDERSTANDING, MUTUAL APPRECIATION, PEACE AND UNITY BETWEEN ALL OF THE PEOPLE

OF GOD.

 

PLEASE STUDY THE SANSKRIT DICTIONARY ENTRIES FOR KRSNA AND BALA TO UNDERSTAND

THE SOURCE OF ..........'S MISUNDERSTANDING. OUT OF HUNDREDS OF ENTRIES

INVOLVING THE MEANINGS OF THE ROOTS OF KRSNA AND BALA, NONE WITH ANY NEGATIVE

ASSOCIATIONS, MONIER WILLIAMS SELECTIVELY PLACED THE WESTERN ASSOCIATION OF

'DARK' WITH 'EVIL' AT THE PRIMARY POSITION IN HIS LISTING OF MEANINGS FOR

KRSNA. REGARDING BALA, HE AGAIN PROMOTED A NEGATIVELY BIASED ASSOCIATION. ONE

CAN SEE HIS BIAS AT WORK IN WHAT HE PROMOTES AS IMPORTANT AMONG HUNDREDS OF

REFERENCES. BUILDING UPON THIS CORRUPTED BASIS, GENERATIONS OF ENGLISH

SPEAKERS HAVE BEEN MISLED INTO NEGATIVELY ASSOCIATING THE NAMES OF KRISHNA AND

BALADEVA WITH EVIL AND THE DEMONIAC. PLEASE DO NOT BE MISLED BY ATTACKS BASED

ON THIS KIND OF CORRUPT, RELIGIOUSLY OR RACIALLY BIASED 'SCHOLARSHIP'.

 

LOVE IN JESUS CHRIST, GOD THE FATHER ELI / HARI, THEIR HOLY SPIRIT PARAMATMA,

AND OUR LADY RHODA / ROSA MYSTICA,

 

PRAYING FOR THE RECONCILIATION OF ALL BHAKTI YOGA DEVOTEES OF GOODWILL,

 

YOUR ASPIRING SERVANT, BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI