Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 Hare Krishna ! Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga ki jaya ! Dear Vaishnavas, Please accept my humble obeisances. I am very concerned about devotees who do not use their ability to discriminate sufficiently, and who seem to have no moral conscience of their own. Some of these 'blind followers' can become very dangerous fanatics, and obsessed with attacking anyone they perceive as a 'free thinker' or heretic. Thinking themselves to be ultra- orthodox, fanatics and fundamentalists cannot perceive that they are also interpreting a tradition. In their delusion of singular rectitude, they set themselves up as the prosecutors, judges, juries and sometimes executioners of other devotees. Such persons are constitutionally incapable of understanding a non-sectarian mission. In their hands, such a mission will become a winner-take-all jihad. In my interfaith preaching devotional service, I have been threatened repeatedly by fanatics from all sides. Fundamentalist Christians have called me The False Prophet of Revelations, and fanatical Muslims and Hindus have threatened and made attempts on my life. However what is most painful to me is when such attacks come from my Gaudiya Vaishnava godbrothers. Admittedly I am not the usual Vaishnava sannyasi, but I keep my vows, have profound respect for the saints and devotees of our Gaudiya Vaishnava Tradition, and I am cent-per- cent Srila Prabhupada's man, and devoted to the service of Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga in preaching the Non-sectarian Mission of Their Sankirtan Movement. Thus when I get attacked, as if I were a heretic, it really saddens me, because faithful service is my life and soul. When someone challenges me as if I have rejected Srila Prabhupada's vani, and the siddhanta of our Tradition, I can only reply with the facts of my life itself. quoting Bhaktatraveler... "Then when the heroes repeat as spoken by Prabhupada we will begin to instate Krsna conscious Varnasrama-dharma. You only have to accept the idea, the vani as it is. This begins on the individual level, personally. Then like minds can come together and do more by cooperation with the instruction To do Varnasrama-dharma in your lives as a community goal, begin to rebuild. Hell with the failure of the past. Use only as a warning label. Move on. Guna and karma not by vote, birth father, family of origin, color of skin. Guna and karma can also be changed in this life time." I have personally accepted Srila Prabhupada's vani as it is, and thus I made solemn vows to Godhead and Guru, which I am keeping. That is my conclusion and the siddhanta of all of my studies. I have given my whole life to this Non-sectarian Bhakti Yoga Sankirtan Mission. Doesn't this fact sufficiently reveal what my conclusion is ? I have no history of abusing any devotees, or engaging in 'homosex' or otherwise breaking any of my vows, so why have I been challenged by Bhaktatraveler (elsewhere on the internet, most recently on the vediculture egroup) ? I have never insulted Srila Prabhupada or disrespected his authority in any way, so why is Bhaktatraveler challenging me on 'siddhanta' when I have never misrepresented Srila Prabhupada ? Bhaktatraveler and others may consider my historical and theological research "trivia", which is fine with me, however there is a place for writing literatures in pursuance of the 'vedic' version. Furthermore, history also merits study as the record of Sri Krishna's salvific action in our world. So, while simply and perfectly repeating Srila Prabhupada's words is essential for us, there is also a contribution to be made from the study of history. The history of religion and theology is my specialty, and I have always tried to use my expertise in these areas in Sri Sri Guru and Gaurangas' service, for the benefit of all devotees. This is what we are supposed to do, to 'dovetail' our abilities into the service of the Lord and His devotees. So, when I come under attack for doing this, or see other devotees being attacked and depreciated in the Movement, when they are sincerely trying to do their service by 'dovetailing', it seems tragic to me, and I am reminded of all the devotees who have left ISCKON or the Movement altogether because of such depreciation. After recently going through problems with a rudely challenging and depreciating devotee and a hacker (same person?) on the Hare Krishna World site, I wonder about this devotee calling himself Bhaktatraveler. Does anyone know him personally and is he a physically dangerous person ? I just looked up references to Bhaktatraveler on the internet, and he denies being a devotee who was once ejected from an ISKCON project. Since his contentious behavior and writing is suspiciously like that of the devotee using an alias who was recently banned from my two Hare Krishna World forums, I wonder if he is being honest about this ejection. Regardless of who he really is, he seems to imagine himself to be a better devotee that nearly anyone else, and apparently thinks that he perfectly understands Srila Prabhupada's vani. However to me he seems to have little realization, and to be prone to simple 'blind following'. On another site he blindly accepts and glorifies the most abominable 'laws' from the 'Laws of Manu', which, like portions of the Bhavishya Purana, has clearly been redacted by Mohammedan- influenced corrupter-copyists. The tragedy of Vaishnavas accepting such corrupted scriptural editions as authentic shastra is why more people, and especially more of our leaders should study history. Naively some Vaishnavas ignore the fact that followers of Mohammed militarily and politically controlled much of India for centuries, which provided them with ample opportunity to corrupt authentic Vedic Traditions to support their own laws and pathological social practices. If one compares Sharia or the fundamentalist 'Islamic' law of the Taliban, for instance, with the present (redacted) 'Laws of Manu', one will find numerous similarities in their most brutal, sexist and racist/class- elitist doctrines. Did these horrible ideas of 'justice' enter 'Islam' from the peaceful and tolerant, spiritual Vedic Tradition? Or are these part of the unimaginably cruel and brutal culture of the Arabs at the time of Mohammed? When the followers of Mohammed conquered, they forced this brutal Arabic cultural 'law' on everyone, and corrupted everyone's authentic scriptures to meet their ends. So they took the Ramayana, the Puranas, The Dharma Shastra and any other important and influential works they could, to publish them in redacted editions, which would support their rule, and laws. Today owning a real Jewish or Christian Bible is punishable by death in many Muslim lands, because the leaders don't want anyone to know what these scriptures actually say. In India, the Muslim-corrupted texts have been circulating for centuries, and most devotees cannot detect these at all. The Mohammedan leaders have sold their distorted versions of Judaism and Christianity to the Muslim masses, and in India they attempted to do the same thing, to appropriate Vedic Tradition to serve their own ends. However in India, there were already so many versions of so many 'vedic' texts, that the Mohammedan, and Mohammedan-influenced scripture-redacters could only succeed in corrupting a few important texts. I am convinced that the 'Laws of Manu' is one of these. The "Bhavishya Purana" is another Vaishnava Shastra that has definitely been redacted for a Muslim-related socio-political effect. The passages in the Bhavishya Purana regarding Mohammed and Jesus, and more modern figures, have no history in any verifiably ancient editions, and are written in a form containing clear connections to Ishmaelite Shia Muslim and late Biblical Traditions. These insertions in the text are obvious to properly trained linguistic scholars, and those who have some understanding of the history of the text, but the devotees are accepting this late fraudulent edition of their sacred literature as authentic ! Thus, without studying history, devotees are just blindly accepting these corrupted texts as the original bona fide scriptures mentioned in real ancient scriptural source-works. The real Bhavishya Purana is mentioned in source works, but the Victorian Era Edition of it, in common use now, was corrupted by someone or group for some socio- political and religious reason. Studying the situation and persons surrounding this Editions' production raises many questions regarding its socio-religious and political purposes. Devotees may realize that many many corrupted versions of the Gita exist, due to the activities of the mayavadis and other non-Vaishnavas, but they don't consider that other Vedic works may also have been abused to promote some other and foreign non-Vaishnava agenda. In the case of the Taliban- like corrupted 'Laws of Manu', the blind-following of some devotees can be dangerous. This is why I would not want anyone to live in a 'vedic' society ruled by the likes of Bhaktatraveler. According to his post on another forum, in the ideal Varnashram Society, he would blindly implement the Sharia-related evils of the spurious and brutal "Laws of Manu" without any qualms. Please dear Prabhupadanugas, do NOT be 'blind followers'. It is dangerous. your aspiring servant, Bhakti Ananda Goswami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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