Puffed-up rejection of the Wrathful Form of Godhead

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DEAR VEDICULTURE FRIENDS,

 

FOR THE REST OF THIS SERIES OF EXCHANGES ON ANGER, PLEASE VISIT MY

Q&A FORUM AT HARE KRISHNA WORLD ONLINE.

 

Please excuse the all caps in this originally private correspondence.

They were used for ease of seeing.

 

HARI BOL ! JESU KI JAYA !

 

DEAR ...........,

 

PLEASE ACCEPT MY HUMBLE OBEISANCES.

 

SEE BELOW...

 

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Monday, October 28, 2002 2:43 AM

On anger and Intelligence

 

 

> Dear Brother David,

>

> What is your opinion on anger? During a conversation I

> had today a fellow said that Jesus could not have been

> enlightened at the point were he became mad with the

> traders in the temple. For, he argued, one that is

> enlightened would not get angry as there is no room

> for anger in the ideal life.

 

THE IDEAL LIFE AND 'ENLIGHTENMENT' TO GNOSTICS,

MAYAVADI IMPERSONALISTS, JAINS, ATHEISTIC BUDDHISTS,

EXTREME PACIFISTS, MANY NEW-AGERS AND OTHERS, IS BASED

ON A WORLD VIEW CONTRARY TO DIVINE REVELATION IN ALL THE

GREAT BHAKTI (TRANSCENDENTAL PERSONALISM) TRADITIONS.

 

IN THE BHAKTI TRADITIONS, TRUE 'ENLIGHTENMENT' IS SELF

REALIZATION, WHICH MUST MEAN REALIZING ONESELF IN

RELATIONSHIP TO THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD.

 

THE IDEAL LIFE OF A SELF REALIZED PERSON, IS ONE OF COMPLETE

DEVOTIONAL SERVICE TO THE LORD AND HIS SAINTS AND

DEVOTEES. IT IS NOT SOME ARTIFICIAL RENUNCIATION OF ALL

HUMAN FEELING.

 

IN ALL THE PERSONALIST TRADITIONS, GOD HIMSELF HAS A

WRATHFUL OR DESTRUCTIVE FORM AS TIME. AS TIME HE IS THE

DESTROYER OF ALL MATERIAL WORLDS. KALA / TIME IS THE

THEOPHANY OF SRI KRISHNA THAT ARJUNA SEES DEVOURING THE

WORLDS, IN THE CENTRAL REVELATION OF THE BHAGAVAD-GITA.

THE GITA FORM OF KRISHNA-KALA IS ACTUALLY THE SAME

AS THE WRATHFUL FORM OF YHVH TZABAOTH IN THE OLD

TESTAMENT STORY OF THE EXODUS. ICONS OF THIS FORM REVEAL

HIM TO BE LION-HEADED, BOTH ON JEWISH ARTIFACTS AND ON

EASTERN VAISHNAVA, SHAIVITE AND BUDDHIST ARTIFACTS. THUS

HE IS NARA HARI, AND ALSO ZEUS CHRONOS, JUPITER SATURNUS,

AND APADEMAK-AMMON IN EGYPT TOO. HE IS THE ONE SUPREME

GOD AS THE ULTIMATE DESTROYER OF EVIL. BUT REMEMBER, WHAT

HE DESTROYS IN THE FLESH, HE CAN ALSO 'RAISE UP

INCORRUPTIBLE ' IN THE SPIRIT !

 

IN FACT, IN THE VAISHNAVA SCRIPTURES IT IS CONSIDERED A GREAT

BLESSING TO GET THE IMMEDIATE, DIRECT CHASTISEMENT OF THE

LORD ! THE LORD HIMSELF EVEN ENJOYS IT WHEN HIS PURE

DEVOTEES CHASTISE HIM ! IN ONE SCRIPTURE IT SAYS THAT SRI

KRISHNA WOULD RATHER HEAR THE SHARP WORDS OF HIS DEVOTEE,

THAN THE VEDIC HYMNS SUNG BY A CHORUS OF BRAHMANAS !

 

HOWEVER, ONE MUST NEVER CONFUSE THE DELUDING FORCE OF ANGER, WHICH

AFFLICTS HUMANITY, WITH THE RIGHTEOUS NEVER-DELUDED JUST WRATH OF

GOD ! BELOW IS SOMETHING ON HUMAN ANGER THAT I RECENTLY WROTE.

 

 

 

THERE ARE MANY STORIES IN THE WORLD'S BHAKTI

SCRIPTURES ABOUT GODHEAD'S RIGHTEOUS

DESTRUCTIVENESS, AND THE ANGER OF SAINTS,

EVEN TOWARD GOD ! HOWEVER RIGHTEOUS

ANGER IS ALSO WARNED AS THE LAST CAUSE OF

FAILURE / FALL-DOWN FOR THE SAINTS. THIS IS

BECAUSE ANGER, OR SPONTANEOUS ACTION-TO-END

-ANGUISH, (RIGHTEOUS OR NOT), CAN BE BLINDING OR

DELUDING FOR EVEN SAINTS. SAINTS MAY HAVE A

SENSE OF HOLY DETACHMENT, BUT HOLY DETACHMENT

IS NOT THE SAME AS APATHY ! IF WE DON'T CARE ABOUT

OTHERS, THEN WE WILL FEEL NO EMPATHY / COM-

PASSION FOR, OR WITH THEM. CARING PASSIONATELY

ABOUT OTHERS IS WHAT CHRIST / KRISHNA DEMANDS OF US !

 

CHRIST-GOD CARED SO PASSIONATELY ABOUT US THAT HE

ENDURED 'THE PASSION' FOR US !

 

 

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IT IS POPULAR IN NEO-GNOSTIC AND NEW AGE CIRCLES TO

CRITICIZE JESUS, KRISHNA OR YHVH FOR VARIOUS THINGS,

BUT IN THIS CRITICISM, THE FAULT FINDERS ARE ONLY EXHIBITING

THEIR PROFOUND LACK OF A REALIZED PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP

WITH GOD, OR EVEN ANY THEORETICAL UNDERSTANDING CONCERNING DIVINE

REVELATION. FURTHERMORE IT IS ONE THING TO BE ANGRY

WITH GOD AND SAY TO HIM, (OR OF HIM), THAT HE IS CRUEL OR UNJUST

ETC., BUT IT IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TO PROUDLY ASSERT THAT GOD

CANNOT BE GOD, BECAUSE HE HAS EXHIBITED HIS DESTRUCTIVE POWER,

ENFORCED HIS JUST LAW, OR OTHERWISE STEPPED ON OUR TOES, OFFENDED

US, DISAPPOINTED OR DISPLEASED US IN SOME WAY. WE MERE INSIGNIFICANT

JIVA SOULS CANNOT BE MORE REALIZED, ENLIGHTENED, JUST, COMPASSIONATE,

OR MERCIFUL THAN THE ORIGIN OF ALL THESE VIRTUES, THE ORIGINAL SUPREME

PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD ! WHAT FOOLISHNESS / FOLLY TO REJECT THE

DEFINER

OF MORALITY FOR BEING IMMORAL ! THINK ABOUT IT...PROTESTANT AND

PACIFIST CHRISTIANS

SAY THAT SRI KRISHNA OR SRI RAMA, OR SRI NARAHARI, OR SHIVA CANNOT BE

GOD / DIVINE,

BECAUSE OF THEIR WAR-LIKE DESTRUCTIVENESS IN THE BHAKTI SHASTRAS.

YET THEY WORSHIP THEIR OWN LORD YHVH / JESUS IN HIS WRATHFUL

THEOPHANY IN EXODUS !

CONVERSELY,THE PUFFED-UP FAULT-FINDING HINDUS OF THE SAME MENTALITY

WILL SAY THAT

YHVH / THE BIBLICAL DEITY OR JESUS CANNOT BE GOD / DIVINE, BECAUSE OF

THEIR

DESTRUCTIVENESS AND ASSOCIATION WITH WARS, PUNISHMENT ETC. THUS

DENYING THE DEITY

OF THE LION-HEADED WRATHFUL FORM OF THE JEWISH DEITY AS TIME, THE

HINDU HYPOCRITES

PROCEED TO WORSHIP THEIR OWN LION-HEADED WRATHFUL FORMS OF SRI

KRISHNA AND SHIVA

AS KALAH, KALA BAIRAVA, MAHA KALA 'TIME' ETC. ! SUCH HYPOCRISY ! WHEN

EXTREME

JEWISH, HINDU OR CHRISTIAN PACIFISTS CREATE THEIR OWN VERSION OF

REALITY, THEY MAY

EVEN DEMONIZE THE 'WRATHFUL' OR DESTRUCTIVE ASPECTS OF THEIR OWN

TRADITIONS' DEITIES.

THUS THERE ARE CHRISTIANS WHO HAVE REJECTED THE GOD OF THE OLD

TESTAMENT ENTIRELY.

IN THE SAME WAY, SOME HINDUS TODAY ARE REJECTING THE WHOLE TRADITIONS

OF SRI KRISHNA

OR SRI RAMA FOR 'SANITIZED' VERSIONS, IN WHICH THE LORD IS ALWAYS

LIKE SOME SWEET HIPPIE

FLOWER-CHILD WHO HAS NOTHING ELSE TO DO IN THE THREE WORLDS EXCEPT

PLAY WITH HIS

EQUALLY PACIFISTIC AND DISCONNECTED-FROM-REALITY FRIENDS. YES THE

LORD IS AN ETERNAL

CHILD PLAYING WITH HIS INNOCENT LITTLE FRIENDS ! BUT HE ALSO COMES TO

THE SAHA WORLDS....

PLACES OF SIN, DISEASE AND DEATH. THESE WORLDS ARE PART OF HIS

CREATION, THE PART

WHERE HE LETS US MESS THINGS UP, MANIFESTING THE POTENTIAL OF

SIN...DISEASE AND DEATH. THAT HE DEALS

WITH THESE REALITIES WHEN HE COMES HERE IS NOT A FAULT ! IT IS PART

OF HIS PERFECTION.

 

For me, as I find it hard

> to express anger, to be full of anger, not for a wrong

> against myself but against what I see as right for

> all, would be an act far from ignorant. For, as I see

> it, this is saying " I am awake to the things around

> me, I look and I see, and I care". The argument is

> that there is a more tactful approach than the one

> Jesus used in the temple.

 

THE MONEY CHANGERS WERE VIOLATING THE MOST BASIC

PRINCIPLE OF GOD'S LAW, RIGHT ON THE PORCH OF HIS HOUSE !

MONEY NOT PART OF THE ASYLA FEDERATION THAT A TEMPLE

BELONGED TO, COULD BE 'BLOOD MONEY' WEALTH ASSOCIATED

WITH HUMAN SACRIFICE AND OTHER UNLAWFUL SACRIFICE, CHATTLE

SLAVERY, AND OTHER EVILS. THUS TEMPLES ONLY ACCEPTED COINAGE

OF THE SISTER TEMPLES IN THEIR LEAGUE OR ALLIANCE. SUCH AFFILIATED

TEMPLES OBSERVED THE SAME OR RELATED RITES AND CUSTOMS,

AND ACCEPTED EACHOTHERS' TEMPLE / SACRED RITUALLY PURE CURRENCY.

MONEY-CHANGING WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE GOD-LESS MARKET

PLACES, WHERE PEOPLE DID BUSINESS WITH THE FALSE GODS OF THE WORLD.

 

INVADING THE TEMPLE, THE MONEY-CHANGERS ENABLED PEOPLE TO VIOLATE

THE RULES AGAINST TRADING WITH, AND THUS EMPOWERING, EVIL-DOERS.

THEY CONVERTED BLOOD-MONEY INTO JEWISH-ALLOWED COINAGE, WHICH

COULD BE OFFERED AT THE TEMPLE, OR USED TO BUY ANIMALS FOR SACRIFICE.

FURTHERMORE, THEY FACILITATED THE UNLAWFUL SELLING OF ANIMALS FOR

SACRIFICE, AND EVEN HUMANS FOR SACRIFICE AND SLAVERY ! JUDAS WAS PAID

THE PRICE OF A RUNAWAY SLAVE FOR DELIVERING JESUS TO THE ROMANS !

 

THERE ARE MANY SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL THREADS AND THEOLOGICAL

ELEMENTS TO EXPLORE IN THE DRIVING-OUT OF THE MONEY-CHANGERS STORY.

REJECTING GOD FOR CHASTISING THE CRUEL INVADERS OF HIS HOUSE AND

EJECTING THEM, IS JUST PUFFED-UP NONSENSE.

 

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PEACE AND LOVE TO YOU ALL,

 

BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI / BROTHER DAVID