Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 Hare Krishna Das, Good points. We read so much aboutindologists engaging in excavations and so forth in order to prove this and that, but whatabout the simple statements already there in theliterature? The ancient Vedics were advanced in terms of language, math, algebra, astronomy, calender systems, ect., so why not take the lion's share of evidence from them? In natal astrology, also, we have statements from Parashara telling that he learned astrological truths from Brahma and Narada, but a section of indologists and Vedic scholars want to build a case for natal astrology having developed within Vedic culture over time, by the end of it- that originally only astronomy for calenders, dates and timing was in use. They may piece together a case with fragments and evidence which remain from Vedic times, but there doesn't remain enough evidence to construct such logic and arguments with confidence, especially when you consider that astrology remained within the well-guarded domain of the brahmin communities, and that astrology is something very personal. A person's astrological consulting doesn't end up in some Purana, not usually. We have only the interpretation of Praikshit Maharaj who was born at the end of Vedic times. Anyway, we are not likely to come across much in the way of astrological evidence because most of the astrology that went on was of a personal and private nature.You can find an old pot in Mohenjadaro, and a Ramayanic fresco on some covered-up wall in ancient Rome, but you won't run across much evidence of verbal astrological advise. Parashara learned from Brahma and Narada, astrology was a part ofVedic culture, and similarly, we can take a hint from the literature about the timing of the Buddha Avatar's advent. Dharmapad Lord Buddha or my blindly follow??? Regarding to the blindly answer, without context and without reading from the fundamental Prabhupaistics. Let disclosed that since 24 yrear ago, I dedicated full time live in the ISKCON asramas distribuying Prabhupada's books every day with out stoping and every day performed the arcana to Krisna vigrahas and Prabhupada murtis. My point is there are a difference in to be a Prabhupadanuga and to fanatical Prabhupaistic. Becuase, I quote the Jiva Goswami Krsna Sandharbh, He is a Mahajana, he is free of four defects, and before of Willians Johns, He is culprit to inventing the Lord Buddha Dates in the 600 B.C., Every vaisnavas acaryas accept that Lod Buddha lived 1000 b. C. Candra Gupta Murya did no't live in the IVBC but XV BC. It its the statement of Bhâgavata Purana 12°Canto, chapter 2,23. So, Prabhupada never reject to Jiva Goswami and Sukadeva Goswami Bhagavatam authority. So, It is no the mundana scholarship. If some body repeat like a parrot Prabhupada quotes with out context, It is not intelligence. So, let me search the quotes, but Prabhupada in the 1° Canto said, He is no expert in soils, regarding to the age or Rajasthan desert, in the 3° Canto said, let the experts in phisic and mathematic explaind the times calculations of atom. He said and a letter appear in the Vedic Cosmography and Astronomy of Sada puta Prabhu: let my Ph D disciples explaind the cosmology of Bhagavatam. Prabhupada in many parts of His Books said, I am no expert in history or in English, or etc... So, I see, I have full faith in my Param Guru Srila Prabhupada and dedicate my live fully to His mission, But the Prabhupastic fanaticals, many of them, never lived in His asrams. Prabhupada wrotte in the Bhagavad-Gita 4, Chapter, "Blindly follow is condem" in the verse tad-Viddhi pariprasnena. Such verse is very difficult to undertand to the Prabhupaistic of extreme fundamnetalism. Forgive my imperfect english, I am no experte. Attly. Hare Krishna das. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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