Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 Bhakti Ananda Goswami Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:01 PM Bhakti Traditions " A VERY TINY PERCENTAGE" ? Current Statistics BHAKTI TRADITIONS "REPRESENT A VERY TINY PERCENTAGE" OF HINDU & BUDDHIST SCHOOLS? Bhakti Ananda Goswami has been in an on-line academic debate with some leading Theosophists for the last month. Below he corrects a Theosophist's misperception that most of the people of India are non-bhakti Advaita Vedantist Jnanis. Jerry S. said... "But the "Sattvic Bhakti Traditions" represent a very tiny percentage of Hindu and Buddhist schools..." The Bhakti salvific devotional traditions have ALWAYS been the dominant ones. The tending-towards-sattvic Eastern Bhakti Traditions like Vaishnavism, Theistic Shaivism and Mahayana Buddhism, proclaim Godhead's great love for all humanity, and that God is eager to reveal Himself to humanity. God's law and highest truths are not hidden from His children. God is honest with us, and we are expected to be honest (humble) with Him, ourselves and each other. Thus these exoteric traditions share an ideal of morality that prizes equality, openness and honesty. Among Vaishnavas, Godhead is considered full in ALL spiritual and material opulences, and CHIEF among His spiritual opulences IS HIS HUMILITY. God is the MOST HUMBLE and RENOUNCED of all beings. He alone both 'has it all' and is able to renounce it all. Thus as in the Catholic Mystery of the Cross, the 'highest' wills Himself to become the 'lowest' for the redemption of all beings in the saha world. In the same way Avalokiteshvara, the 'Second Person' of Amitabha Adi Buddha becomes the Bodhisattva of infinite compassion Whose Cosmic Sacrifice redeems the beings of the saha worlds. Lokeshavara even descends into the hells, and stays in every saha world until the "last hungry ghost" is saved ! Looking at the statistic for Mahayana Buddhism below, consider how many Chinese there are, and that Pure Land Buddhism was their dominant tradition, (nearly all Confucianists also practiced Mahayana)for much more than a thousand years ! Despite the effort of the ruling Chinese Communist Party, who are a small minority of the Chinese People, faith in Mother Kuan Yin and the Buddha is still alive in the hearts of both the educated and the peasantry. I have known refugees and missioners from China, and they all say the same thing. Every form of faith is flourishing there in the underground temples or 'house churches', despite the worst vicious persecution. The faith and religiosity of the Chinese people is like a sealed kettle about to explode. It almost took down the government at Tiananmen Square but was violently suppressed. However it cannot stay pent-up forever. Even though Pure Land (Mahayana)Buddhism has been suppressed in China and North Korea, as per the chart below, it is still the dominant form practiced ! In the Chart below please note the totals... HIGHEST NUMBERS OF PERSONS IN IDENTIFIABLE GROUPS Catholic Christianity 1,030,000,000 Sunni Islam 940,000,000 Vaishnavites Hinduism 580,000,000 Orthodox/Eastern Christian Christianity 240,000,000 Shaivites Hinduism 220,000,000 Vaishnavas are not Mayavadis, and those who identify as Shaivites are not atheistic Advaiti Mayavadis either ! Those who self-identify as Shaivites practice Bhakti Yoga devoted to Shiva as Param Ishvara. So where are the atheistic or if one prefers, the non-theistic Hindus in this ranking ? They are principally in the iconoclastic Advaiti, Neo-Hindu and Hindu reform movements like the Arya Samaja and Vedanta Society. Because of their bhakti or devotion, Vaishnavites and Shaivites prefer to identify themselves as such in demographic studies, instead of using the generic word 'Hindu'. Otherwise it would be impossible for anyone to come up with statistics like this ! As opposed to "Vaishnavites' 580,000,000 and "Shaivites" 220,000,000, there are only 22,000,000 who are self-identified as "Hindu". neo-Hindusand reform Hindus Hinduism 22,000,000 So much for statement by Jerry S. that the "...the "Sattvic Bhakti Traditions" represent a very tiny percentage of Hindu and Buddhist schools..." I wonder how many Theosophists there are ? -BA G http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html Buddhism: World estimates for Buddhism vary between 230 and 500 million, with most around 350 million. More. Major Branches of Buddhism Branch Number of Adherents Mahayana 185,000,000 Theravada 124,000,000 Lamaism (Vajrayana/Tibetan/Tantric) 20,000,000 Hinduism: The highest figure we've seen for Hinduism (1.4 billion, Clarke, Peter B., editor), The Religions of the World: Understanding the Living Faiths, Marshall Editions Limited: USA (1993); pg. 125.) is actually higher than the highest figure we've seen for Islam. But this is an abberation. World Hinduism adherent figures are usually between 850 million and one billion. More. http://www.adherents.com/adh_branches.html Hinduism Major Branches of Hinduism Branch Number of Adherents Vaishnavites 580,000,000 Shaivites 220,000,000 neo-Hindus and reform Hindus 22,000,000 Veerashaivas (Lingayats) 10,000,000 Christianity: 2 billion Islam: 1.3 billion Hinduism: 900 million Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 850 million Buddhism: 360 million Chinese traditional religion: 225 million primal-indigenous: 150 million African Traditional & Diasporic: 95 million Sikhism: 23 million Juche: 19 million Spiritism: 14 million Judaism: 14 million Baha'i: 6 million Jainism: 4 million Shinto: 4 million Cao Dai: 3 million Tenrikyo: 2.4 million Neo-Paganism: 1 million Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand Rastafarianism: 700 thousand Scientology: 600 thousand Zoroastrianism: 150 thousand Branch Number of Adherents Catholic 1,030,000,000 Orthodox/Eastern Christian 240,000,000 Conservative Protestant 200,000,000 Liberal Protestant * 150,000,000 African indigenous sects (AICs) 110,000,000 Pentecostal 105,000,000 Anglican * 73,000,000 Jehovah's Witnesses 14,800,000 Latter Day Saints 11,200,000 New Thought (Unity, Christian Science, etc.) 1,500,000 Friends (Quakers)* 300,000 Branch Religion Number of Adherents Catholic Christianity 1,030,000,000 Sunni Islam 940,000,000 Vaishnavites Hinduism 580,000,000 Orthodox/Eastern Christian Christianity 240,000,000 Shaivites Hinduism 220,000,000 Conservative Protestant Christianity 200,000,000 Mahayana Buddhism 185,000,000 Liberal Protestant Christianity 150,000,000 Theravada Buddhism 124,000,000 Shiite Islam 120,000,000 African indigenous sects (AICs) Christianity 110,000,000 Pentecostal Christianity 105,000,000 Anglican Christianity 73,000,000 Sikhism Sikhism 23,000,000 neo-Hindusand reform Hindus Hinduism 22,000,000 Lamaism(Vajrayana/Tibetan, etc.) Buddhism 20,000,000 Jehovah's Witnesses Christianity 14,800,000 Latter Day Saints Christianity 11,200,000 Ahmadiyya Islam 10,000,000 Veerashaivas (Lingayats) Hinduism 10,000,000 Baha'i World Faith Baha'i Faiths 6,000,000 Conservative Judaism 4,500,000 Unaffiliated and Secular Judaism 4,500,000 Svetambara Jainism 4,000,000 Reform Judaism 3,750,000 Seicho-No-Ie New Japanese 3,200,000 Shinto all branches Shinto 3,000,000 Tenrikyo New Japanese 2,800,000 PL Kyodan New Japanese 2,600,000 Orthodox Judaism 2,000,000 New Thought(Unity, Christian Science, etc.) Christianity 1,500,000 Sekai Kyuseikyo New Japanese 800,000 Sthanakavasis Jainism 750,000 Zenrinkai New Japanese 600,000 Druze Islam 450,000 Tensho Kotai Jingukyo New Japanese 400,000 Friends (Quakers) Christianity 300,000 Ennokyo New Japanese 300,000 Digambaras Jainism 155,000 Reconstructionist Judaism 150,000 Parsis Zoroastrianism 110,000 Gabars Zoroastrianism 20,000 This page copyright © 2000 by Adherents.com. 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