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> "Bhakti Ananda Goswami"

> <bhakti.eohn

 

> LEVI, NOTOVITCH, GHULAM, ETC. AND

> FRAUDULENT AND CORRUPTED SCRIPTURES

> Sun, 27 Apr 2003 23:23:46 -0700

>

>

> HARE KRISHNA !

>

> SRI SRI GURU AND GAURANGA KI JAYA !

>

> DEAR BHAKTA .......,

>

> PLEASE ACCEPT MY HUMBLE OBEISANCES AND MY

> APPRECIATION FOR YOUR MUCH NEEDED

> CORRECTIVE REGARDING THESE FRAUDULENT LITERATURES

> AND ADDED PASSAGES IN THE

> MAHA BHAVISHYA PURANA. IT IS A REAL TRAGEDY THAT

> SUCH WRITINGS HAVE TAKEN A

> PLACE ALONGSIDE AUTHENTIC HOLY SHASTRAS IN THE MINDS

> OF SO MANY DEVOTEES.

> IT IS GOOD THAT YOU HAVE QUOTED SRILA PRABHUPADA ON

> THIS MATTER. LET US

> EXAMINE EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND

> IT IN CONTEXT.

>

> THE TIME AND CIRCUMSTANCE WAS SRILA PRABHUPADA'S

> MINISTRY TO WESTERN

> YOUTHFUL 'HIPPIES', WHO WERE GENERALLY REBELLIOUS

> AGAINST THEIR PARENTS AND

> PARENT CULTURE INCLUDING THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN

> RELIGION, AND WERE DABBLING IN

> PSYCHO-ACTIVE DRUGS, FREE SEX, AND OTHER

> REVOLUTIONARY TYPES OF BEHAVIOR.

> REJECTING 'ORGANIZED RELIGION', MANY HIPPIES

> NEVER-THE-LESS CONSIDERED

> THEMSELVES TO BE VERY 'SPIRITUAL' AND HAD A GREAT

> INTEREST IN WESTERN

> ESOTERICISM AND VARIOUS FORMS OF NATIVE AMERICAN,

> AFRICAN AND EASTERN

> MYSTICISM. OFTEN THESE SPIRITUALITIES WERE WHAT

> VAISHNAVISM CONSIDERS

> 'MAYAVADI' OR IMPERSONAL. THEY USED FLOWERY

> GOD-TALK, BUT THIS WAS A COVER

> FOR THEIR ACTUALLY ATHEISTIC TEACHINGS. AS A CLASS,

> THESE YOUNG

> COUNTER-CULTURE REVOLUTIONARIES WERE FASCINATED WITH

> SUCH TEACHINGS AND

> BOOKS LIKE "THE AQUARIAN GOSPEL OF JESUS THE CHRIST"

> BY ELIPHAS LEVI. THIS

> BOOK WAS DISTRIBUTED BY VARIOUS OCCULT SOCIETIES

> TEACHING IMPERSONALISM,

> INCLUDING THE ADVAITA VEDANTA SOCIETY.

>

>

> THE CORRUPTED MAHA BHAVISHYA PURANA, LEVI'S

> "AQUARIAN GOSPEL OF JESUS THE

> CHRIST" AND NICHOLAS NOTOVITCH'S "UNKNOWN LIFE OF

> JESUS CHRIST"

>

> THE 'AQUARIAN GOSPEL' WAS NOT AN AUTHENTIC ANCIENT

> 'GOSPEL', BUT WAS A

> MODERN FICTION OF THE GENRE OF LITERATURES WRITTEN

> BY POST 18TH CENTURY

> WESTERN OCCULTISTS LIKE ROSICRUCIANS, FREEMASONS,

> THEOSOPHISTS, AND VARIOUS

> OTHER 'CHANNELERS', 'PSYCHICS' AND IMAGINATIVE

> PERSONS CLAIMING TO HAVE MADE

> CONTACT WITH 'ASCENDED MASTERS', EXTRATERRESTRIAL

> ALIENS, ANGELS, OR

> CLAIMING TO HAVE SEEN MIRACULOUS OR HIDDEN TEXTS, TO

> HAVE READ THE 'AKHASHIC

> RECORDS', OR TO HAVE BEEN REINCARNATED, AND SO TO

> HAVE 'REMEMBERED' THE

> THINGS THAT THEY WROTE ABOUT FROM ANCIENT HISTORY.

> THE FACT IS THAT,

> PUTTING THE MIRACULOUS CLAIMS OF THEIR ORIGINS

> ASIDE, THE CONTENTS OF THESE

> BOOKS CANNOT STAND UP TO ANY SCHOLARLY SCRUTINY AT

> ALL.

>

> FOR EXAMPLE, FREEMASON JOSEPH SMITH'S "BOOK OF

> MORMON" CLEARLY RELIES ON THE

> LATE PROTESTANT 'KING JAMES' VERSION OF THE BIBLE,

> AND THEREFORE IS

> OBVIOUSLY NOT FROM SOME ANGELICALLY REVEALED ANCIENT

> EGYPTIAN RECORDS. THE

> SITUATION IS SIMILAR FOR THE FRAUDULENT SECTIONS OF

> THE MAHA BHAVISHYA

> PURANA, WHICH IS OTHERWISE AN AUTHENTIC SANSKRIT

> TEXT. IN THE ADDITIONS TO

> THE PRATISARGA PARVAN OF THE BHAVISHYA PURANA, WHICH

> IS NOT A VAISHNAVA

> SATTVIC PURANA, BUT IS RATHER CLASSED BY THE

> VAISHNAVAS AS A TAMASIC SHAKTI

> PURANA (P 220), ALL THE BIBLICAL REFERENCES APPEAR

> TO BE SANSKRITIZED

> ARABIC (PP 276, 277) AND THE GENERAL PRESENTATION

> SHOWS SHIA AND EVEN

> AHMADDIYA MUSLIM INFLUENCES.

>

> BECAUSE THE MODERN HERETICAL ISHMA'ILI SECT

> AHMADIYYA MUSLIMS WERE INVOLVED

> IN THE 19TH CENTURY POLITICAL INTRIGUES THAT

> SURROUNDED THE KINGS OF KASHMIR

> (SEE THE ESOTERIC AND SCIENCE NEWS SERIES ON THE

> 19TH CENTURY KASHMIRI SINGH

> DYNASTY CONSPIRACY), AND THE AHMADIYYAS HAD BRITISH

> ROYAL PATRONAGE, THERE

> HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GEO-POLITICAL MOTIVE SIDE TO THE

> STORIES OF JESUS IN THE

> HIMALAYAS AND KASHMIR. THE AHMADIYYAS IN FACT

> WANTED TO REPLACE SRI

> KRISHNA, JESUS, AND EVEN MUHAMMAD WITH THEIR OWN

> FOUNDER 'MESSIAH', AND IN

> FACT CLAIMED THAT HE WAS THE KALKI AVATARA AND OTHER

> RIDICULOUS THINGS AS

> WELL. THE CORNER STONE OF THEIR PLOT TO TAKE OVER

> KASHMIR FOR THEIR

> WORLD-CAPITAL NEO-'MECCA' WAS THEIR SPURIOUS 'TOMB

> OF JESUS'. HATED BY THE

> 'ORTHODOX' MUSLIMS, THE AHMADIYYAS, WHO WERE FAVORED

> BY THE BRITISH AGAINST

> BOTH THE MUSLIMS AND HINDUS, BECAME THE OBJECT OF

> MANY MUSLIM PURGES.

> HOWEVER, FOR THEIR FAITHFUL SERVICE TO THE BRITISH

> CROWN, THE AHMADIYYAS

> WERE REWARDED WITH A FAVORED STATUS AND HOSPITALITY

> IN GREAT BRITAIN, WHERE

> THEIR RELIGION'S INTERNATIONAL HEADQUARTERS REMAINS

> TODAY !!!

>

> MANY AHMADIYYAS ARE STILL INTENT ON ESTABLISHING

> THEIR 'MECCA' IN KASHMIR,

> WITH THE SO-CALLED 'TOMB OF JESUS' AS A FOCAL POINT.

> TO THIS END, WITH THE

> CONSPIRATORIAL ASSISTANCE OF MANY IN THE WESTERN

> OCCULT TRADITIONS, THEY

> HAVE BEEN CARRYING OUT AN AGGRESSIVE CAMPAIGN TO

> PROMOTE THEIR

> JESUS-IN-THE-EAST, AND JESUS-BURIED-IN-KASHMIR

> TEACHINGS. SINCE 19TH

> CENTURY, OCCULTISTS LIKE BLAVATSKY, NOTOVITCH, AND

> LEVI WERE INVOLVED IN THE

> ORIGINAL LITERARY CONSPIRACY TO BEGIN WITH, SO THEIR

> WRITINGS ARE STILL

> FOUNDATIONAL TO PROMOTION OF THE AHMADIYYAS

> OBJECTIVES TODAY. SADLY FEW

> VAISHNAVAS UNDERSTAND THAT BY PROMOTING THE

> ESOTERICISTS' GENRE OF

> JESUS-IN-INDIA FICTIONAL, CORRUPTED AND REDACTED

> LITERATURES, THEY ARE

> AIDING AND ABETTING IN THE DE-HINDUIZATION OF

> KASHMIR.

>

> CYNICAL USE OF PEOPLES' SCRIPTURES IS A COMMON PLOY

> IN THE POLITICS OF

> CONQUEST AND CONTROL. THE KASHMIRI KINGS, WHO WERE

> INVOLVED IN THE KEY

> INTRIGUE BETWEEN RUSSIA, GREAT BRITAIN AND INDIA,

> PRESIDED OVER A GREAT

> LITERARY PROJECT, AND PROPAGANDISTS WERE ENGAGED IN

> IT, AS WELL AS THE USUAL

> PRINTERS AND COPYISTS. THE STORIES OF JESUS IN INDIA

> AND TIBET WERE

> ESSENTIAL TO THE OBJECTIVES OF SEVERAL KEY PLAYERS

> IN THE KASHMIRI

> SITUATION. AS THEN, STILL TODAY PROMOTING THE 'TOMB

> OF JESUS' IN KASHMIR

> DIRECTLY AIDS THE CAUSE OF THE AHMADIYYAS TO REPLACE

> JESUS, BUDDHA AND SRI

> KRISHNA HIMSELF WITH THEIR OWN 'MESSIAH' MIRZA

> GHULAM. DUE TO THEIR LACK OF

> KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THE RELIGIO-POLITICAL MOTIVES

> BEHIND THE WESTERN

> ESOTERIC-AHMADIYYA CONSPIRACY, MANY DEVOTEES OF THE

> LORD HAVE BEEN

> UNWITTINGLY LED INTO ACCEPTING THE WRITINGS OF THE

> AHMADIYYA ESOTERIC

> CONSPIRATORS AS AUTHENTIC.

>

> HOWEVER, MAIN-STREAM MUSLIM SCHOLARS LONG AGO

> EXPOSED THE FACTS REGARDING

> THE FALSE MESSIANIC CAREER OF MIRZA GHULAM, THE

> AHMADIYYA 'PROPHET' AND

> 'INCARNATION' OF SRI KRISHNA. THERE ARE DETAILED

> HISTORIES OF GHULAM'S

> MESSIANIC CLAIMS AND ACTIVITIES, AND COLLECTIONS OF

> HIS WRITINGS AVAILABLE

> ON MANY ANTI-AHMADIYYA MUSLIM SITES.

>

>

http://www.themodernreligion.com/anti_muslim_main.htm

> ":Another example of the Ahmadiyya's rejection of

> the Qur'an and Sunnah is

> their contention that Jesus died, and that Mirza

> Ghulam Ahmad was an

> incarnation of Jesus. In fact, according to the 1985

> Encyclopaedia

> Britannica, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed to be not

> only Jesus but Prophet

> Mohammed, the Mahdi, and the Hindu god Krishna. It

> suffices to refer back to

> the essence of Islam which is the Uniqueness of God:

> any concept of man

> becoming god, worse yet a Hindu god who is one out

> of many, is false

> according to the Qur'an. "

>

> THE MAIN ANTI-AHMADIYYA SITE IS

> http://alhafeez.org/rashid/ . WITH THE

> GROWING WORLD SUPPORT OF NON-MUSLIMS, DUE TO THEIR

> DISHONEST 'TOMB OF JESUS'

> CAMPAIGN, THE AHMADIYYAS ARE BECOMING BOLDER IN

> THEIR CONFRONTATION OF THE

> REST OF THE MUSLIM WORLD.

>

> "In 1988 Mirza Tahir Ahmad Qadiani, Head of the

> Ahmadiyya Movement and

> Grandson of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, issued a challenge

> of Mubahila, in which he

> labeled the entire Muslim Ummah as Disbelievers and

> Liars."

>

> IN SUMMARY, THE AHMADIYYAS BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE

> MUST ACCEPT GHULAM AS THE

> FINAL DIVINE MANIFESTATION, WHO UNITES IN HIMSELF

> THE TRADITIONS OF BOTH THE

> EAST (KRISHNA AND BUDDHA) AND THE WEST (JESUS AND

> MUHAMMUD). FOR AHMADIYYAS,

> WHO OFTEN DO NOT REVEAL THEIR TRUE CONVERSION

> AGENDA, PREACHING THAT JESUS

> TAUGHT AND DIED IN KASHMIR, IS A DISHONEST

> PREPARATION FOR THE REVELATION OF

> MIRZA GHULAM AS THE FINAL DIVINE MANIFESTATION.

> THE SO-CALLED 'TOMB OF

> JESUS', 'DISCOVERED' AND DECLARED BY GHULAM HIMSELF,

> IS THE GLOBAL

> PROPAGANDA TROJAN-HORSE OF BOTH THE WESTERN MAYAVADI

> ESOTERIC AND AHMADIYYA

> MOVEMENTS. THROUGH IT AND THE PROMOTION OF GHULAM'S

> AND RELATED WESTERN

> ESOTERICISTS' WRITINGS ABOUT JESUS IN THE EAST ETC.

> , THE PROPONENTS OF THIS

> GLOBAL CAMPAIGN HOPE TO EQUALLY CORRUPT AND DISABLE

> THE MAINSTREAM ORGANIZED

> RELIGIONS OF ISLAM, CHRISTIANITY, HINDUISM AND

> BUDDHISM.

>

> THE PARTING-POINT OF THE AHMADIYYAS AND OTHER

> WESTERN TRADITION

> ESOTERICISTS, IS THAT MANY OF THE BESANT BRANCH

> (INDIAN) THEOSOPHY-RELATED

> ESOTERIC GROUPS ARE STILL LOOKING FOR THE COMING OF

> A NEW 'MESSIAH'.

> DISAPPOINTED THAT KRISHNAMURTI DECLINED HIS ROLE AS

> THE INDIAN THEOSOPHICAL

> SOCIETY (TS) MESSIAH, MANY ESOTERIC AND NEW AGE

> GROUPS ARE NOW AWAITING THE

> REVELATION OF THE NEW WORLD TEACHER THAT THEY CALL

> MAITREYA. THUS THE

> AHMADIYYAS, THE OLDER ESOTERIC GROUPS SUCH AS THE

> ROSICRUCIANS, MASONS AND

> THEOSOPHISTS AND THE NEW AGE 'SPIRITUALIST' GROUPS

> ALL USE THE SAME GENRE OF

> LITERATURES TO PROMOTE THEIR AGENDAS. IN ADDITION,

> THE SAME CLASS OF

> LITERATURES IS PROMOTED BY THE MAYAVADI MISSIONARIES

> IN THE WEST, LIKE THOSE

> OF THE ADVAITA VEDANTA SOCIETY, AND NUMEROUS OTHER

> NEO-HINDU MAYAVADI GURUS

> AND ORGANIZATIONS.

>

> VAISHNAVAS AND OTHERS MAY BE ATTRACTED TO THESE

> LITERATURES, BECAUSE THEY

> ARE GENERALLY PIOUS, SYNCRETISTIC FICTIONS THAT

> PROMOTE INDO-CENTRISM AND

> VARIOUS THINGS LIKE REINCARNATION, MONIST OR

> PANTHEISTIC MYSTICISM,

> NON-VIOLENCE AND VEGETARIANISM. WHEN DEVOTEES

> BROUGHT THE 'AQUARIAN

> GOSPEL' AND OTHER ESOTERIC IDEAS TO SRILA

> PRABHUPADA, HE RESPONDED

> APPROPRIATELY ACCORDING TO TIME AND CIRCUMSTANCE. HE

> WAS TRYING TO ACCEPT

> WHATEVER WAS FAVORABLE FOR SERVICE, IN WHAT THE

> DEVOTEES BROUGHT TO HIM.

> HOWEVER, HE WOULD NEVER HAVE ENDORSED THE OTHER

> A-DHARMIC, ICONOCLASTIC AND

> MAYAVADI TEACHINGS OF THESE BOGUS LITERATURES, AND

> TO TAKE HIS FEW

> STATEMENTS AS A BLANKET ENDORSEMENT OF THEM IS A

> GREAT DISSERVICE TO HIM.

> FURTHERMORE, NO NUMBER OF VAISHNAVA SAINTS

> ERRONEOUSLY DECLARING SOMETHING

> TO BE A FACT WHEN IT IS NOT, WILL MAKE IT A FACT.

> ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE,

> SRI KRISHNA OFTEN REVEALS THINGS TO HIS PURE

> DEVOTEES ON A NEED-TO-KNOW

> BASIS. THUS KNOWLEDGE OF MANY THINGS IS NOT

> DEMONSTRATED BY HIS PURE

> DEVOTEES. THIS SHOULD NOT DETRACT IN ANY WAY FROM

> THEIR LUSTER AS 'PURE

> DEVOTEES'.

>

> WHEN HAS A PURE DEVOTEE EXHIBITED OMNISCIENCE?

> USUALLY PURE DEVOTEES PLAY A

> REASONABLY LIMITED 'HUMAN' ROLE IN THE LORD'S

> EARTHLY LILAS. IN THE CONTEXT

> OF LILA, WHY SHOULD THEY BE FAULTED IF SOME THINGS

> SEEM TO REMAIN UNKNOWN TO

> THEM, OR IF THEY DO NOT REVEAL SOME THINGS? SRILA

> PRABHUPADA NEVER

> DEMONSTRATED ANY KNOWLEDGE OF EITHER WESTERN OR

> EASTERN 'ESOTERIC' / OCCULT

> HISTORY. HE DID NOT EXHIBIT KNOWLEDGE THAT ELIPHAS

> LEVI AND HIS 'AQUARIAN

> GOSPEL' WERE PART OF 19TH CENTURY OCCULTISM. SRILA

> PRABHUPADA EXHIBITED NO

> KNOWLEDGE OF CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC TRADITION REGARDING

> JESUS, NOR SHOULD HE

> HAVE BEEN EXPECTED TO. HE WAS BRINGING PURE GAUDIYA

> VAISHNAVISM TO THE

> WEST. IT WAS NOT HIS MISSION TO CREATE A VAISHNAVA

> COMMENTARY ON CATHOLIC

> HISTORY AND THEOLOGY, OR TO COMMENT ON THE RISE OF

> WESTERN OCCULT

> ARYOSOPHISM. TO PRESENT SRILA PRABHUPADA AS AN

> EXPERT ON THINGS THAT HE

> CLAIMED NO AUTHORITY IN IS TO ABUSE HIM. HE WAS

> NOT AN EXPERT ON THE MAHA

> BHAVISHYA PURANA. IN FACT THE BHAVISHYA PURANA

> ITSELF (NOT THE REDACTED,

> INSERTED PORTION) IS NOT EVEN ONE OF THE SATTVIC

> VAISHNAVA PURANAS. IF HE

> MENTIONED IT, HE COULD NOT HAVE INTENDED IT TO BE

> TAKEN AS A 'SCRIPTURE' ON

> THE SAME LEVEL AS ANY OF THE SATTVIC VAISHNAVA

> PURANAS. VAISHNAVAS DO NOT

> ACCEPT TAMASIC LITERATURES SUCH AS THE TAMASIC

> PURANAS, SHAIVAGAMAS, DEVI

> TANTRAS AND KAMA SUTRA ETC. TO BE SCRIPTURES THE

> SAME AS THE SATTVIC

> VAISHNAVA SHASTRAS. REFERRING TO AN IDEA CONTAINED

> IN A TAMASIC TEXT DOES

> NOT ELEVATE THAT TEXT TO THE LEVEL OF A SATTVIC

> SHASTRA.

>

> REGARDING LEVI AS A CHRISTIAN AUTHORITY, AND HIS

> 'GOSPEL' AS A TRUE

> 'GOSPEL'...

>

> A RATHER FUNDAMENTALIST PROTESTANT SITE DESCRIBES

> LEVI'S OCCULT INFLUENCE

> THIS WAY...

>

> http://www.saintsalive.com/freemasonry/fmoccult.htm

>

> "Eliphas Levi

> Any survey of the history of the relationship

> between Freemasonry and other

> occult orders would be incomplete without making

> mention of the master

> Freemason, occultist Eliphas Levi. Professor Carl

> Raschke of the University

> of Denver does an excellent job of expressing the

> importance of Eliphas Levi

> to the occult explosion.

>

> Nearly a century before Crowley, around the middle

> of the nineteenth

> century, there rose to fame in France a renegade

> Catholic rector called

> Alphonse Constant, who changed his name to Eliphas

> Levi. Levi was considered

> the Michelangelo of the suppressed traditions of

> black magic in the

> Christian West. (49)

>

> The French occultist Alphonse-Louis Constant (a.k.a.

> Eliphas Levi), who

> influenced twentieth-century Satanism considerably,

> bought almost completely

> into the thesis that Templars were diabolists. And

> his engraving of the

> Templar idol Baphomet has become a classic article

> of iconography for

> today's black magicians, a sort of Satanist Mona

> Lisa. (50)

>

> Levi's engraving of the Baphomet which was called

> the 'Satanist Mona Lisa'

> by professor Raschke.

>

>

>

> Illustration of Baphomet.(51)

>

> Eliphas Levi, translated by A.E. Waite,

> Transcendental MAGIC, Samuel

> Weiser, Inc., p. 186.

>

> T he Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey explains how

> important this picture is to

> Satanists.

>

> The symbol of Baphomet was used by the Knights

> Templar to represent

> Satan. Through the ages this symbol has been called

> by many different names.

> Among these are: The Goat of Mendes, The Goat of a

> Thousand Young. The Black

> goat, The Judas Goat, and perhaps most

> appropriately, The Scapegoat .

> Baphomet represents the Powers of Darkness combined

> with the generative

> fertility of the goat...The symbol of Baphomet is

> placed on the wall above

> the altar. (52)

>

> The occult researcher, Michael Howard, comments on

> the symbolism of Levi's

> pantheistic idol, Baphomet, in his book, The Occult

> Conspiracy.

>

> "In Levi's illustration, Baphomet is a

> goat-headed figure with

> androgynous features who sits on a cube. A torch

> blazes between the goat's

> horns which represents cosmic intelligence and

> spiritual illumination. In

> occult tradition, Lucifer, who is regarded by the

> Church as the devil is

> called the light-bringer because he grants his

> disciples spiritual

> illumination through incarnation on the physical

> plane. (53)

>

>

>

> Albert Pike and Eliphas Levi

>

> Eliphas Levi became a Freemason on March 14, 1861,

> and authored many books

> that have become classics in occult literature. Many

> more things than we

> have already shared could be said about Eliphas

> Levi, but the information we

> are dwelling on here is the Luciferian doctrine that

> Levi passed on to

> another Freemason of great repute, Albert Pike.

>

> Pike was the Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite

> from 1859-1891 and is

> called by many the most powerful and influential

> American Mason of all time.

> His book, Morals and Dogma, which was published by

> the Supreme Council is

> still a Masonic classic of great impact. Levi

> thought of Lucifer not as a

> person, but as a force; the pantheistic god of the

> New Age movement, the

> great magical agent that could be used for good or

> evil. He explains:

>

> "They have said that the Great Magical Agent -

> accurately termed Lucifer

> because it is the vehicle of light and the

> receptacle of all forms is a

> mediating force diffused throughout creation; (54)

>

> In the Luciferian doctrine of Eliphas Levi, Satan

> and Lucifer were not evil

> in the craft sense, they were just another side of

> Levi's pantheistic god.

>

> "Thus Satan is not the ruler of the realm of

> shadow, he is the agent of

> light behind a veil. He is of service to God, he

> performs God 's work: God

> has not rejected him, for he holds him still in his

> hand. . . . What is the

> Devil, then, in the final analysis? The Devil is God

> working evil. (55 )

>

> This is the God of Star Wars, not a personal God,

> but just a force that can

> be used for good like Luke Skywalker, or can also be

> used for evil, like

> Darth Vader. Albert Pike teaches the same Luciferian

> doctrine in what is

> probably the most widely used and honored Masonic

> book of all time, Morals

> and Dogma.

>

> "The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is

> that of Yahveh reversed;

> for Satan is not a black god, but the negation of

> God. The Devil is the

> personification of Atheism or Idolatry. For the

> Initiates, this is not a

> Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may

> serve for evil. It is

> the instrument of Liberty or Free Will. They

> represent this Force, which

> presides over the physical generation, under the

> mythologic and horned form

> of the God Pan; thence came the he-goat of the

> Sabbat, brother of the

> Ancient Serpent, and the Light-bearer or Phosphor,

> of which the poets have

> made the false Lucifer of the legend. (56)

>

> Most Freemasons don't know the passage above is a

> direct quote from page 161

> of The History of Magic, by the master occultist

> Eliphas Levi. Albert Pike

> speaks once again about Lucifer the light-bearer in

> Morals and Dogma.

>

> "Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and

> mysterious name to give to the

> Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning!

> Is it he who bears the

> Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds

> feeble, sensual, or selfish

> Souls? Doubt it not! (57)

>

> Once again, few Freemasons realize that Albert Pike

> is quoting directly from

> page 36 of The History of Magic by Eliphas Levi. The

> fact that Albert Pike

> takes his Luciferian doctrine directly from the

> occultist Freemason Eliphas

> Levi can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt."

>

>

>

> LEVI, A FALLEN CATHOLIC AND RENOWNED MAGICIAN,

> EXERTED A GREAT INFLUENCE ON

> ALISTER CROWLEY, WHO PRIDED HIMSELF AS THE MOST EVIL

> MAN WHO EVER LIVED !

> IN FACT CROWLEY TRANSLATED LEVI'S MAGIC TEXTS AND

> INCORPORATED LEVI'S

> RITUALS INTO HIS PRECURSOR TO THE MODERN 'CHURCH OF

> SATAN', THE Ordo Templi

> Orientis O.T.O.

>

> ANTON LEVAY, LEADER OF THE 'CHURCH OF SATAN', HONORS

> BOTH CROWLEY AND LEVI.

> IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT SOME SAY THAT LEVI RENOUNCED

> HIS EVIL WAYS, REPENTED

> AND CAME BACK TO HIS CATHOLIC FAITH AT THE END OF

> HIS LIFE. NEVER-THE-LESS,

> HIS 'AQUARIAN GOSPEL' CANNOT BE IN ANY WAY TAKEN AS

> EVEN THE INSPIRED

> WRITING OF A MODERN VISIONARY SAINT. THE HISTORICAL

> GENEALOGY OF THOUGHT

> FROM LEVI TO MANY MAYAVADI AND LEFT HAND TANTRIC

> THOUGHT-LEADERS AND GROUPS

> IS CLEAR. HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL

> OCCULTISTS OF THE 19TH

> CENTURY. HE CERTAINLY HAD MUNDANE AND OCCULT POWER,

> BUT IS HE THE KIND OF

> PERSON THAT VAISHNAVAS SHOULD ACCEPT AS AN

> INFALLIBLE SAINT-AUTHOR OF A

> 'SCRIPTURE' / GOSPEL ?

>

>

>

> AS FOR NICHOLAS NOTOVITCH, AND HIS Unknown Life of

> Jesus Christ, NOTOVITCH

> WAS A NOTORIOUS LIAR AND SPY WHO SOMETIMES WROTE AND

> EVEN FORGED DOCUMENTS

> FOR A LIVING. HE WAS INVOLVED IN ALL KINDS OF

> POLITICAL INTRIGUES AND WAS

> EXPOSED, IN HIS OWN TIME, AS A LIAR CONCERNING HIS

> CLAIMED TRIP OF DISCOVERY

> IN TIBET.

>

>

http://www.westarinstitute.org/Periodicals/4R_Articles/Tibet/tibet.html

>

> "Worse yet, Müller shared a letter (June 29, 1894)

> from an English woman who

> had visited Leh in Ladakh, including the Hemis

> lamasery, where she checked

> out Notovitch's story. She reported that, according

> to the abbot, "There is

> not a single word of truth in the whole story! There

> has been no Russian

> here. No one has been taken into the Seminary for

> the past fifty years with

> a broken leg! There is no life of Christ there at

> all!" [Goodspeed, p. 11].

>

> After Müller's attack, Notovitch began to

> back-pedal, changing his story in

> the preface of the 1895 edition. This time it seemed

> that there had been no

> single two-volume work as he had first claimed, but

> that he had assembled

> his Unknown Life from fragmentary notices scattered

> among many Tibetan

> scrolls.

>

> The same year, Professor J. Archibald Douglas of

> Agra visited the Hemis

> monastery and interviewed the abbot, reading him

> Notovitch's Unknown Life.

> The abbot was outraged at the hoax and asked why

> crimes like Notovitch's

> fraud could not be punished! As abbot for the past

> fifteen years, he knew no

> one had been given shelter with a broken leg, and as

> a lama for forty-two

> years he could attest there was no such document as

> Notovitch claimed to

> have used [Goodspeed, p. 13]. Notovitch was exposed

> as a fraud and that was

> the end of it for a while."

>

>

>

>

> VAISHNAVISM IS ONE OF THE WORLD'S GREAT 'ORGANIZED'

> EXOTERIC RELIGIONS.

> ESTIMATES ON THE PRESENT NUMBER OF VAISHNAVAS RANGE

> FROM 580,OOO,OOO TO

> 750,000,000. DEVOTED TO THE GOD OF GRACE,

> VAISHNAVISM HAS NEVER BEEN AN

> OCCULT ELITIST TRADITION. HISTORICALLY OPPOSED TO

> THE EXOTERIC TRADITIONS

> OF THE PERSONAL GOD OF GRACE ARE THE ELITIST

> IMPERSONAL OCCULT TRADITIONS.

> THESE OFTEN PROVIDE COVER FOR THE ABOMINABLE

> TEACHINGS AND PRACTICES OF

> TAMASIC LEFT HAND TANTRA. THUS THE BHAKTI

> TRADITIONS ARE HISTORICALLY

> INCLUSIVE AND EXOTERIC, EMPHASIZING MORALITY

> (ANSWERING TO A PERSONAL GOD),

> AND THE MAYAVADI TRADITIONS ARE HISTORICALLY ELITIST

> AND ESOTERIC / OCCULT,

> EMPHASIZING SO-CALLED 'FREEDOM', BUT REALLY MORAL

> RELATIVISM. TEACHING THAT

> THERE IS NO PERSONAL GOD, BUT THAT 'I AM GOD, YOU

> ARE GOD, WE ALL ARE GOD,

> THERE IS NO GOD', FOR THE OCCULTISTS THERE IS NO

> PERSONAL 'HIGHER POWER' TO

> ANSWER TO ! BECAUSE OF THE SECRECY INVOLVED IN

> OCCULTISM, THERE ARE OFTEN

> HIDDEN ORDERS WITHIN ORDERS. SO THE PIOUS PUBLIC

> IMAGE OF AN ESOTERIC STUDY

> GROUP CAN EASILY OBSCURE THE IMPIOUS HIDDEN

> ACTIVITES OF A SECRET SOCIETY,

> AND THE LOWER DEGREES OF INITIATION CAN TEACH MORAL

> CODES AND OTHER THINGS

> THAT ARE CONTROVERTED IN THE TEACHINGS OF THE HIGHER

> DEGREES.

>

> "This certainly shows that members of other occult

> orders can work within

> Freemasonry often times without the knowledge of the

> actual leaders of the

> lodge. The O.T.O. was founded in 1895 by the

> Austrian Freemason, Karl

> Kellner. Freemason, Theodor Reuss became its leader

> after Kellner's death.

> Reuss started a magazine called The Oriflame in 1902

> with the help of

> Freemason ,Franz Hartman. A 1912 jubilee edition of

> the magazine revealed

> information about what the O.T.O. activities really

> were.

>

> "Our order possesses the KEY which opens up all

> Masonic and Hermetic

> secrets, namely, the teaching of sexual magic, and

> this teaching explains,

> without exception, all the secrets of Nature, all

> the symbolism of

> Freemasonry and all systems of religion. (24)

>

>

>

> Aleister Crowley and The O.T.O.

>

> In 1912, while holding the rank of 33rd degree

> Mason, Aleister Crowley

> became the head of the British O.T.O. The teachings

> and the practices of the

> O.T.O. were amazingly disgusting. A very brief

> description of their degrees

> is as follows:

>

> "Today's literature about sex magic relies

> heavily on practices which

> were already common in the O.T.O. or in its later

> development by Aleister

> Crowley . . . The division is as follows: VIII

> degree O.T.O. = autoerotic

> practice IX degree O.T.O. = heteroerotic practice XI

> degree O.T.O. =

> homoerotic practice This is the traditional

> sex-magic practice as performed

> under Crowley. 25 Thirty-third degree Aleister

> Crowley proudly called his

> cult of the O.T.O. 'true freemasonry.' I claim for

> my system that it

> satisfies all possible requirements of true

> freemasonry. It offers a

> rational basis for universal brotherhood and for

> universal religion. (26)

>

> How close is the connection between Freemasonry and

> the O.T.O.? Masonic

> Historian Francis King reveals a closer connection

> than most Freemasons

> would ever dare to admit.

>

> "For the O.T.O. not only had, as we shall see,

> connections with spurious

> and clandestine Masonic groups but functioned as a

> recruiting office for one

> of these for in the 'Classification of Members by

> Degrees' appended to

> Ruess's document is clearly stated that 'candidates

> are made Freemasons by

> the Directing Members (Fratres Superiores) of the

> O.T.O. (27)

>

> The fact that Crowley was the head of the O.T.O.

> while holding the rank of

> 33rd degree Mason should forever explode the myth

> that Freemasonry is a

> Christian organization. Crowley spoke openly and

> candidly about his Masonic

> honors."

>

> WHY ON EARTH SHOULD VAISHNAVAS BE PROMOTING

> AHMADIYYA LIES AND THE WRITINGS

> OF WESTERN OCCULTISTS? IT IS SHOCKING TO ME TO SEE

> IT, BUT ON DEVOTEE

> INTERNET SITE AFTER SITE, THERE ARE REFERENCES TO

> THE WRITINGS AND TEACHINGS

> OF INDO-PHILE 'ARYOSOPHIC' OCCULTISTS AND MAYAVADIS

> ! SRILA PRABHUPADA

> CARRIED OUT HIS DIVINE MISSION FAULTLESSLY, AND

> CLEARLY THAT MISSION DID NOT

> INCLUDE MANY MANY THINGS, WHICH WERE LEFT TO HIS

> LEARNED DISCIPLES TO

> ACCOMPLISH. UNFORTUNATELY, MANY OF HIS DISCIPLES

> POLLUTED THE PURE STREAM

> OF VAISHNAVISM WITH THEIR FASCINATION FOR THE

> OCCULT. THUS THEY INVESTED

> THEIR CREDIBILITY IN PROMOTION OF THE AHMADIYYA

> 'JESUS IN INDIA AND TIBET'.

> AS A RESULT, THESE MODERN OCCULT TEACHINGS HAVE

> ASSUMED A STATUS OF DOGMA IN

> ISKCON AND THE HARE KRISHNA MOVEMENT IN GENERAL, AND

> SRILA PRABHUPADA'S FEW

> COMMENTS REGARDING THESE BOOKS OR ISSUES HAVE BEEN

> MISUSED TO SUPPORT THE

> NEW AGE ESOTERIC PERSPECTIVE OF THE FORMER-HIPPIE

> LEADERS.

>

> SRILA PRABHUPADA IS NOT THE ONE WHO STEERED HIS

> MOVEMENT INTO THE DIRECTION

> OF NEW AGE OCCULT ARYOSOPHISM. HIS HIPPIE DISCIPLES

> DID THAT. ANY

> REFERENCE THAT HE MADE TO THE BHAVISHYA PURANA, THE

> 'AQUARIAN GOSPEL' OR THE

> WATCHTOWER SOCIETY TRACT, OR OTHER SUCH THINGS MUST

> BE CONSIDERED IN

> CONTEXT, AND NOT MISUSED AS A BLANKET ENDORSEMENT

> FOR THINGS THAT ARE

> PATENTLY, DEMONSTRABLY UNTRUE. TO ABUSE SRILA

> PRABHUPADA BY DRAGGING HIM,

> AS AN ADVOCATE, INTO SOME NEW AGE ESOTERIC AGENDA IS

> ABOMINABLE.

>

> CONCERNING THE REDACTED BHAVISHYA PURANA AND THE

> INSERTED PORTIONS OF ITS

> MODERN PUBLISHED TEXT,

> DESCRIPTION OF THE SEVEN MLECCHACARYAS ADAM, ENOCH,

> NOAH, MOSES, BUDDHA,

> JESUS AND MUHAMMAD PARALLELS SHIA OR ISHMA 'ILI

> HEIROHISTORY (P 278). TO

> UNDERSTAND THE INAUTHENTICITY OF THESE INSERTED

> PORTIONS OF TEXT, IT IS

> ENOUGH TO NOTE THAT THROUGHOUT, THE BIBLICAL STORY

> REFERENCES USE

> SANSKRITIZED ISLAMIC ARABIC NAMES. THUS THE NAMES

> AND STORIES HAVE CLEARLY

> COME INTO THE PURANA NOT FROM ANY SUI GENERIS

> TRANSCENDENT OR EVEN EARLIEST

> BIBLICAL HEBREW, GREEK OR EASTERN-RITE LANGUAGE

> CATHOLIC SOURCE, BUT FROM A

> MUCH LATER ARABIC / MUSLIM SOURCE. AS WITH THE

> "BOOK OF MORMON", THE

> LANGUAGE USED TO CONVEY THE STORY IS A COMPLETE

> GIVE-AWAY TO ITS TRUE HUMAN

> ORIGIN. IN THE CASE OF SMITH'S "BOOK OF MORMON", ITS

> KING JAMES BIBLE

> VERSION REFERENCES ARE CLEAR. IN THE CASE OF THE

> LATE ADDITIONS TO THE

> BHAVISHYA PURANA, THEIR MUSLIM ARABIC AND BRITISH

> INFLUENCES ARE CLEAR. ONE

> DOES NOT HAVE TO CONSIDER THE ISSUES OF WHEN THE

> INSERTIONS WERE MADE, OR

> WHAT THE MOTIVE WAS, TO RECOGNIZE THAT THESE

> PASSAGES HAVE BEEN ADDED FROM

> SOME MUSLIM, ARABIC OR BRITISH-INFLUENCED SOURCE.

> THE BRITISH

> FRAME-OF-REFERENCE AND SANSKRITIZED ARABIC LANGUAGE

> ITSELF REVEALS THE FACT

> THROUGHOUT. IN ADDITION, MUSLIM TRADITIONS, (FROM

> THE HADITH ETC.), AND

> USAGES APPEAR IN THE INSERTIONS (P 277), AND SUCH

> SANSKRITIZED MUSLIM NAMES,

> AS FOUND IN THE TEXT, ARE WELL ATTESTED IN 19TH

> CENTURY BENGALI (P 277).

>

> MANY SCHOLARS HAVE STUDIED THESE ADDITIONS TO THE

> TEXT. THE ISSUE IS NOT

> WHETHER THERE CAN BE PROPHETIC 'SCRIPTURES', BUT

> WHETHER THESE SPECIFIC

> PASSAGES ARE AUTHENTIC PARTS OF THE ORIGINAL

> SANSKRIT TEXT, OR IF THEY HAVE

> BEEN ADDED. ANY HONEST ANALYSIS OF THE LANGUAGE OF

> THE ADDITIONS CLEARLY

> SHOWS THAT THEY ARE FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE THAN THE

> REST OF THE TEXT. ONE

> DOES NOT EVEN HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF WHEN OR

> WHY THESE ADDITIONS WERE

> INSERTED, FOR A LINGUIST ANALYZING THE TEXT, IT IS

> ONLY HONEST TO ADMIT THAT

> THEY WERE. IF A PERSON DOES NOT KNOW THAT THESE

> WERE ADDED, THEY CANNOT BE

> FAULTED FOR CITING THEM AS PART OF AN AUTHENTIC

> PURANA.

>

> HERE IS THE MOST RESPECTED CURRENT WORK THAT

> ADDRESSES THE RESEARCH WHICH

> HAS BEEN DONE ON THE ADDITIONS TO THE MAHA BHAVISHYA

> PURANA. THE PAGE

> NUMBERS GIVEN ABOVE ARE FROM THIS TEXT.

>

> http://www.vedamsbooks.com/no20376.htm

>

>

> Draupadi Among Rajputs, Muslims and Dalits :

> Rethinking India’s Oral and

> Classical Epics/Alf Hiltebeitel. Delhi, Oxford

> University Press, 2001, xiv,

> 560 p., ISBN 019-5655044.

>

> Contents: 1. Introduction. 2. Oral epics. 3. The

> elder brothers and the

> Heroes of Palnadu. 4. The epic of Pabuji. 5. Opening

> Alha. 6. The nine-lakh

> chain. 7. The story of Krsnamsa. 8. Kuruksetra II.

> 9. Time-routes through

> the Krsnamsacarita. 10. Their name is legion. 11.

> The Ballad of Raja desing.

> 12. Barbarika, Aravan, Kuttantavar: furthering the

> case of the severed head.

> 13. The myth of the Agnivamsa. 14. Draupadi becomes

> Bela, Bela becomes Sati.

> Bibliography. General Index.

>

> "Throughout India and Southeast Asia, ancient

> classical epics—the

> Mahabharata and the Ramayana—continue to exert

> considerable cultural

> influence. Draupadi among Rajputs, Muslims and

> Dalits offers an

> unprecedented exploration into South Asia’s regional

> epic traditions. Using

> his own fieldwork as a starting point, Alf

> Hiltebeitel analyses how the oral

> tradition of the South Indian cult of the Goddess

> Draupadi and five regional

> martial oral epics compare with one another and tie

> in with the Sanskrit

> epics.

>

> "Drawing on literary theory and cultural studies,

> Hiltebeitel argues that

> the Draupadi cult, Mahabharata and the five oral

> epics share subtexts of

> regionality, the peripherality of ‘little kingdoms’

> landed dominant classes,

> and the Goddess of the land. He reveals how the

> traditional plots are

> twisted and classical characters reshaped to reflect

> local history and

> religion and, in doing so, sheds new light on the

> intertwining oral

> traditions of medieval Rajput military culture,

> Dalits (‘former untouchables

> ’), and Muslims. Breathtaking in scope, this work is

> indispensable for those

> seeking a deeper understanding of South Asia’s Hindu

> and Muslim traditions."

> (jacket)

>

> [Alf Hiltebeitel is Professor of religion and human

> sciences at The George

> Washington University. He is author or editor of

> several previous books on

> Indian religion, anthropology, and literature, and

> coeditor of Hair: Its

> Power and Meaning in Asian Cultures.]

>

> Return to Hinduism Catalogue

>

> Return to Anthropology and Sociology Catalogue

>

> Return to Islamic Studies Catalogue

>

> Home

>

>

> WITH THE VAST AMOUNT OF INFORMATION NOW READILY

> AVAILABLE ABOUT SUCH

> FRAUDULENT AND CORRUPTED

> TEXTS, IT IS TRAGIC THAT VAISHNAVAS, CHRISTIANS,

> MUSLIMS AND OTHERS CONTINUE

> TO BE MISLED BY THE PROMOTERS OF THESE LITERATURES.

>

> MAY LORD BALADEVA, WHO IS THE TRUTH, PROTECT US FROM

> OCCULT MAYAVADI

> INDOCTRINATION THROUGH 'THE FLOWERY WORDS OF THE

> VEDAS'. MAY WE LEARN TO

> RECOGNISE IMPERSONALISM EVEN WHEN IT IS COVERED OVER

> WITH THE SENTIMENTAL

> AND SWEET WORDS OF THEISM. NOT EVERYTHING THAT

> SUPERFICIALLY LOOKS OR

> SOUNDS LIKE VAISHNAVISM IS VAISHNAVISM. MAYAVADIS

> HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATING

> AND REDACTING OR REINTERPRETING THE BHAKTI SHASTRAS

> OF THE EAST AND WEST FOR

> THOUSANDS OF YEARS. LET US THEREFORE EDUCATE

> OURSELVES, AND CAREFULLY GUARD

> OUR SACRED TRADITIONS FROM THIS CORRUPTION.

>

> LET US SERVE SRILA PRABHUPADA BY BECOMING WISE AND

> PRESERVING THE GREAT GIFT

> OF PURE SATTVIC VAISHNAVA BHAKTI THAT HE GAVE US.

> LET US PROTECT OUR

> VAISHNAVA BHAKTI FROM THE CORRUPTING INFLUENCES OF

> WESTERN ARYANIST

> OCCULTISM. NEW AGE COVERED MAYAVADA IS NOT

> VAISHNAVA BHAKTI ! THERE IS

> NO PLACE FOR LEVI, NOTOVITCH OR H.P.BLAVATSKY ETC.

> IN OUR SAMPRADAYA. OURS

> ARE THE SATTVIC PURANAS. NOT EVERYTHING 'HINDU' OR

> INDIAN IS PART OF OUR

> LINEAGE, OR GENERALLY APPROVED FOR OUR USE. THE

> TAMASIC INDIAN TRADITIONS,

> AND THEIR LITERATURES AND PRACTICES, WERE

> HISTORICALLY OPPOSED BY

> VAISHNAVISM. WHEN WE HAVE SUCH A VAST TRADITION TO

> DRAW SATTVIC VAISHNAVA

> INSPIRATION FROM, WHY FOCUS ON TAMASIC PURANAS AND

> TANTRISM ANYWAY?

>

> PRAYING FOR OUR DELIVERANCE FROM CORRUPTING

> IMPERSONAL AND TANTRIC

> INFLUENCES IN THE HARE KRISHNA MOVEMENT,

>

> ASPIRING TO SERVE THE VAISHNAVAS,

>

> BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI

>

>

> > > > p. 148-149: Jesus in India topic is highly

> controversial.

> > > >

> > > > Nicolas Notovich's "Secret Life of Jesus" was

> based on H.P.

> > > > Blavatsky's "Isis Unveiled".

> > > > www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a7502210/notovich.html

> > > >

> > > > Bhavishya Purana account of Isa is considered

> a later addition.

> > >

> > > Prabhupada accepted it and so should we. On a

> tape where TKG is

> > > questioning Prabhupada on behalf of a Christian,

> Prabhupada mentions the

> > > prediction of the Maha-Bhavisya Purana. Please

> try to keep it in.

> >

> > This way he accepted a work derived from

> Notovitch's SLoJ:

> >

> > "Regarding Aquarian Gospel of Lord Jesus The

> Christ, I have taken some

> stray

> > extracts just to support our views, but we don't

> give any importance to

> that

> > book." (Letter to: Tamala Krsna -- Tittenhurst 14

> September, 1969)

> >

> > "Regarding books like Aquarian Gospel or even the

> Testiments, we cannot

> > accept them as authorities because sometimes it is

> learnt that the words

> are

> > not actually spoken by Christ, but they are so set

> up by the devotees."

> > (Letter to: Hamsaduta -- Tittenhurst 2 November,

> 1969)

> >

> > Similarly, SP once appreciated Watchtower's

> criticism of gay marriage

> > allowed by some priest (PQPA 2: Vedic Culture:

> Varnasrama-dharma; SB

> 6.1.11

> > -- New York, July 25, 1971; etc.). This can be

> hardly considered his

> > endorsement of JW's doctrine in toto.

> >

> > Things were sometimes presented to Prabhupada by

> his disciples in a

> > one-sided and biased way and he commented on this

> presentation.

> >

> > I'm not going to argue over this sensitive point.

> If you are interested in

> > the issue of New Age influences on modern society

> (ISKCON included) you

> may

> > refer to:

> >

> > "Esoteric and Science News"

> > http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~muehleb9/index.html

> >

> > "From Thesophy to Pseudo-science"

> > http://www.raphaelvishanu-world.at/

>

>

 

 

 

 

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> > "Bhakti Ananda Goswami"

> > <bhakti.eohn@v...>

> Dear Father Bhaktiananda das:

Pranam!!! Prabhupada ki jay!!! Let me understand to your. I could

understand that for some holy soul with a direct relationships with

Lord Jesus, feel strong reluctance to accept the tentative works

about Lord Jesus visited in India in His youngness, specially if this

soul has a strong compromise with the Roman Catholic tradition. You

observations about the social context when Prabhupada preach is very

precise with out doubt. But if your read more carefully the

Prabhupada teachings, you shall see that your appassionate rejection

is not right in all. Because, Prabhupada said that:

"Very recently an archeologist published findings indicating that

Lord Christ, after being buried, was exhumed and that he then went to

Kashmir. There have been many actual examples

of yogis¨bieng buried in trance and exhumed alive and good condition

several hours later. A yogi can keep himself alive in a

transcendental state even if burned not only for many days but for

man years." ( SB. pourposts. 7.3.17.)

"Prabhupada: We take the Bible. It was spoken long time ago, to

primitive people that lived in desert. Such people were not very

advance… unafortunality, such scientific detail explanation is no

there, in the Bible." (Journey to the self-discovery , IV. LA, 30-XII-

1968. I interview. Spanish editions p. 111.) And in the same books

Prabhupada openly state that Lord Jesus was to India in Jaganath Puri

in his youngness .

So, Jiva Goswami stated that all Shiva Puranas or tamasic are not

hated, but the parts again the vaisnava principle: Krishna sandharba

Anuccheda (28. 69): iti siva-sastriyatvac ca natra vaisnava-siddhanta-

viruddhasya tasyopayogah. Yata uktamskanda eva sanmukham prati sri -

sivena. "That the Skanda Purana is not like that; but the Sivaites

puranas should be accept only if they are confirmed in the vaisnava

puranas." Because, Rupa and Sanatana Goswami quoted like evidence

the Mahabhavisya Purana. This book appear in the list of 18

Mahapuranas. And your cannot reject the apparent mentions of Lord

Jesus in this text under the fallacy of interpolation, with out

present a philological studied called calatium codicum or showing

all the existed manuscript in roll.

Attently, with respect to you.

Hare Krishna das

Priest of Radha Govinda Mandir and

Graduated student in Linguistic and Literature in

U A de C.

Saltillo, México.

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