Ten Thousand years

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Ten Thousand years

SB 8.5.23 P The Demigods Appeal to the Lord for Protection

When Krsna appeared, He gave His orders, and when Krsna Himself appeared as a

devotee, as Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, He showed us the path by which to cross

the ocean of Kali-yuga. That is the path of the Hare Krsna movement. When Sri

Caitanya Mahaprabhu appeared, He ushered in the era for the sankirtana

movement. It is also said that for ten thousand years this era will continue.

This means that simply by accepting the sankirtana movement and chanting the

Hare Krsna maha-mantra, the fallen souls of this Kali-yuga will be delivered.

After the Battle of Kuruksetra, at which Bhagavad-gita was spoken, Kali-yuga

continues for 432,000 years, of which only 5,000 years have passed. Thus there

is still a balance of 427,000 years to come. Of these 427,000 years, the 10,000

years of the sankirtana movement inaugurated by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu 500

years ago provide the opportunity for the fallen souls of Kali-yuga to take to

the Krsna consciousness movement, chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra and thus be

delivered from the clutches of material existence and return home, back to

Godhead.

Chanting of the Hare Krsna maha-mantra is potent always, but it is especially

potent in this age of Kali. Therefore Sukadeva Gosvami, while instructing

Maharaja Pariksit, stressed this chanting of the Hare Krsna mantra.

kaler dosa-nidhe rajann

asti hy eko mahan gunah

kirtanad eva krsnasya

mukta-sangah param vrajet

"My dear King, although Kali-yuga is full of faults, there is still one good

quality about this age. It is that simply by chanting the Hare Krsna

maha-mantra, one can become free from material bondage and be promoted to the

transcendental kingdom." (Bhag. 12.3.51) Those who have accepted the task of

spreading the Hare Krsna maha-mantra in full Krsna consciousness should take

this opportunity to deliver people very easily from the clutches of material

existence. Our duty, therefore, is to follow the instructions of Sri Caitanya

Mahaprabhu and preach the Krsna consciousness movement all over the world very

sincerely. This is the best welfare activity for the peace and prosperity of

human society.

Antya 3.50 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura

>From this statement by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu we can clearly understand that

the word yavana does not refer only to a particular class of men. Anyone who is

against the behavior of the Vedic principles is called a yavana. Such a yavana

may be in India or outside of India. As described here, the symptom of yavanas

is that they are violent killers of cows and brahminical culture. We offer our

prayers to the Lord by saying, namo brahmanya-devaya go-brahmana-hitaya ca. The

Lord is the maintainer of brahminical culture. His first concern is to see to

the benefit of cows and brahmanas. As soon as human civilization turns against

brahminical culture and allows unrestricted killing of cows, we should

understand that men are no longer under the control of the Vedic culture but

are all yavanas and mlecchas. It is said that the Krsna consciousness movement

will be prominent within the next ten thousand years, but after that people

will all become mlecchas and yavanas. Thus at the end of the yuga, Krsna will

appear as the Kalki avatara and kill them without consideration.

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Prabhupada: Yes. I never said that "You have to give up this, you have to do

this." Never said. Then gradually ceto-darpana-marjanam. When the heart becomes

cleansed, then little. There is no hopelessness. So many people have come, and

they are coming. Both black, white, everyone is coming. There is no question of

(indistinct). But you cannot expect that cent percent people will come; that is

not possible. But even, even one-fourth percent people come to this, then it

will be successful. Compared to the American population, what percentage we

have got? Still they have made some impression, the Hare Krsna movement.

Literatures are selling, they are appreciating, learned circle. Takes some

time, but if we stick to our principles and do not make any compromise and push

on--in this way, I have given you instruction, it will never stop; it will go

on. It will never stop. At least for ten thousand years it will go on. That is

your... (indistinct) And this movement is meant for these fourth-class,

fifth-class, tenth-class men. Not this movement is fourth class, fifth class.

They are so fallen that they cannot be counted even third class, fourth

class--tenth-class of men. Deliver them. Patita-pavana-hetu tava avatara.

Caitanya Mahaprabhu's incarnation is for delivering these classes of men.

Caitanya Mahaprabhu never meant to start this movement for high-class

brahmanas, sages, saintly persons--no. This class of men. For the all fallen.

Don't be disappointed, go on, go on. Stick to the principles. When there was no

response, I did not know where to live, where to eat. Sometimes at Dr. Mishra's,

sometimes with some friend somewhere. Where to live. And I was going to inquire

the shipping company when the next ship returning to India. Still I was

renewing my visa: "Let us hope. Let us hope." In this way, we started Second

Avenue in month of July, I think?

690513rc.col Conversations

Prabhupada: Kalki's nature, that is described in Bhagavata. He will come just

like a prince, royal dress with sword, and on horseback, simply killing, no

preaching. All rascals killed. No more preaching. (laughing) That is the last.

There will be no brain to understand what is God.

Allen Ginsberg: There will be no brain to understand God?

Prabhupada: They will be so dull, so dull. It requires brain to understand. Just

like in the Bhagavata it is said that evam prasanna-manaso, "fully joyful,"

bhagavad-bhakti-yoga, "by practice of bhakti-yoga." Evam prasanna-manaso

bhagavad-bhakti-yogatah, mukta-sangasya: "and freed from all material

contamination." He can understand God. Do you think God is so cheap thing,

anyone will understand? Because they do not understand, they present something

nonsense: "God is like this. God is like that. God is like that." And when God

Himself comes, that "Here I am, Krsna," they don't accept it. They'll create

their own God.

Allen Ginsberg: So Kalki comes at the end of the Kali-yuga?

Prabhupada: Yes.

Allen Ginsberg: And is Kalki connected with the Kali-yuga cycle?

Prabhupada: Yes. Kalki, yes.

Allen Ginsberg: So He would come at the end of Kali-yuga to end the yuga.

Prabhupada: Yes. Then Satya-yuga will begin.

Allen Ginsberg: Then what begins?

Prabhupada: Satya-yuga.

Allen Ginsberg: Which is?

Prabhupada: Satya-yuga, the pious. Satya-yuga. People will be pious, truthful, long-living.

Allen Ginsberg: Are those people that remain or whatever new creation comes out of the destruction?

Prabhupada: Some of them will remain, some of them. It will not completely

extinguish. Some of them will remain, pious. Paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca

duskrtam. All miscreants will be killed, and out of them, there must be some

pious... They remain.

Allen Ginsberg: Do you think of this in terms of a historical event that will

occur in the lifetime of your disciples?

Prabhupada: No. This will happen at least 400,000's of years after, at least. So by that time...

Allen Ginsberg: They will go down, down, down for 400,000 years?

Prabhupada: Yes. So at that time my disciples will be with Krsna. (laughter)

Devotees: Haribol!

Prabhupada: And those who will not follow them, they will see the fun, how they

are being killed. (laughter)

Allen Ginsberg: 400,000 years. Will people still be chanting Hare Krsna in 400,000...

Prabhupada: No. Hare Krsna will be finished within ten thousand years. There

will be no more Hare Krsna.

Allen Ginsberg: Ah. So what will be left?

Prabhupada: Nothing. Left will be I'll kill you and eat you, and you shall kill

me. You shall eat me. That will be left.

Allen Ginsberg: After ten thousand years?

Prabhupada: Yes. There will be no grain, no milk, no sugar, no fruit. So I have

to eat you, and you will have to eat me. Full facility for meat-eating.

(laughter) Full facility. Krsna is very kind. He'll give you facility: "All

right. Why cows and calves? You take your own son. Yes. Eat nicely." Just like

serpents, snakes, they eat their own offsprings, tigers. So this will happen.

Allen Ginsberg: Kali eats her own...

Prabhupada: Yes. And there will be no brain to understand, no preacher, nothing

else. Go. Go to, to the dog. And then Krsna will come: "All right, let me kill

you so that you are saved." So...

Allen Ginsberg: But you see it as actually a historical thing of ten thousand

years for the chanting, of the diminishing chanting of...

Prabhupada: Yes. These are...

Allen Ginsberg: Well, then do you think more people will chant Hare Krsna or fewer?

Prabhupada: Oh, yes. More people. Now it will increase.

Allen Ginsberg: Until?

Prabhupada: Up to ten thousand years.

Allen Ginsberg: And then?

Prabhupada: Then diminish.

Allen Ginsberg: So what is the purpose of right now, a world increase...

Prabhupada: People will take advantage of this up to ten thousand years. Then they will...

Allen Ginsberg: So this is like the last rope, the last gasp.

Prabhupada: (laughs) Yes. So the sooner we take to shelter, shelter of Krsna

consciousness, is better.

Allen Ginsberg: Well, then, according to Vedic theory, when did this yuga begin?

According to this Vedic theory... Or... This is sastra?

Prabhupada: Yes.

Allen Ginsberg: When did this yuga...?

Prabhupada: Begin from this Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He introduced five hundred

years ago, and it will continue now.

Hayagriva: Kali-yuga.

Prabhupada: Kali-yuga has begun five thousand years ago.

Allen Ginsberg: Began five thousand years ago.

Kirtanananda: But this wave within Kali-yuga, in which Hare Krsna increases and

then diminishes, is about ten thousand years and that began five hundred years

ago.

Prabhupada: Kali-yuga, the duration of life of Kali-yuga is 432,000's of years.

Out of that, we have passed five thousand years. There is balance, 427,000's of

years. Out of that, ten thousand years is nothing.

Prabhupada: So we have accepted Lord Caitanya as Krsna not fanatically. There

are evidence in Mahabharata, in Upanisads, in Puranas, in Bhagavata, in all

Vedic scripture.

Allen Ginsberg: Well, then, within this period of ten thousand years, only those

who hear Krsna's name and worship Krsna by chanting...

Prabhupada: Yes. Kirtanad eva krsnasya mukta-sangah param vrajet. That is also

stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam.

Allen Ginsberg: So only those who practice Krsna chanting can attain moksa.

Prabhupada: They become immediately liberated and go back to home, back to Godhead.

Allen Ginsberg: And everybody else gets involved deeper and deeper in the yuga.

Prabhupada: Yes, yes, yes. So if anyone believes in the sastras, they should

take to this Krsna consciousness. That is intelligence, to take advantage of

authorized scriptures. You'll find in the Bhagavata, There is a history of

Candragupta, and "The Yavanas will become kings." That means English

occupation, Mohammedan occupation. Everything is there. And Buddha's

appearance, kikatesu bhavisyati. Kikatesu means in the Bihar province in India.

Bhavisyati. Because Bhagavata Purana was written five thousand years ago, and

Lord Buddha appeared about 2,600 years ago. So therefore it is stated,

bhavisyati: "In future, just in the beginning of Kali-yuga, Lord will appear as

Buddha. His mother's name will be Anjana, and his business will be to cheat the

atheists."

Allen Ginsberg: To cheat the atheists.

Prabhupada: Yes. Sammohaya sura-dvisam. Sura-dvisam means atheists. Surat.

Sura-dvisam means those who are envious of Lord's devotees. That means atheist.

So to bewilder them. What is that bewildering? This atheist class, they became

so much absorbed in this animal-killing, they forgot everything about God. So

they said, "What is God? We don't mind." So Lord Buddha says, "Yes, there is no

God." Lord's philosophy is: "There is no God. Void. There is no God. But what I

say, you follow. Yes. That's all right." But he is God. Is it not cheating?

Allen Ginsberg: Yes, except that he claims to be neither God nor not God.

Prabhupada: Huh? But he never said that "I am God." He said there is no God.

730722rc.lon Conversations

Prabhupada: The politicians, they (say that) "These books are useless. Throw

them in the water." They say like that publicly. They are not interested.

Rather, this movement, as I have now began with my disciples, European,

American boys, they're... They are not very satisfied, the present politicians.

They are not very satisfied. They don't want. Everywhere this, more or less the

same mentality, but it is our duty on behalf of Krsna to push on this movement.

So we are doing, and we are getting response. It is not without response. It

will increase. That is also stated, that for ten thousand years Krsna

consciousness movement will increase. Yes.

Syamasundara: Ten thousand years.

Prabhupada: Within ten thousand years, if they become Krsna conscious, then life

is successful. After ten thousand years, the gloomy picture of Kali-yuga will

come. Still there is time. Ten thousand years is not small period. So we have

passed five thousand years. So still ten thousand. We have got to the fifteen

thousand years. Kali-yuga's duration of life is four hundred thousand, four

hundred and twenty-seven thousand. Char-lakh murti saja. (?) Yes.