Validating the date of Ramayana using planetarium software

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HinduThought, "S. Kalyanaraman"

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Just as the Mahabharata date has been unraveled as circa 3000 BCE (I

think this is the best fit with the texts as recorded in the

Sukthankar Critical Edition -- despite alternative opinions expressed

based in vernacular versions of MBh), using 150 observed astronomical

events recorded in the text and validating the sky epigraphs with

planetarium software (see http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati), is it

possible to unravel the date of Ramayana events using the software?

Here is a reference to an attempt made by Pushkar Bhatnagar.

 

 

 

Kalyanaraman

 

 

 

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20031012/spectrum/main6.htm

 

 

 

A real life hero, not figment of a poet's imagination

Saroj Bala

 

Sunday, Oct. 12, 2003 Tribune, Chandigarh, Spectrum

 

The story of Shri Ram's life was first narrated by Maharishi Valmiki

in The Ramayana, written after he was crowned as the king of Ayodhya.

Valmiki was a great astronomer because he made sequential

astronomical references on important dates related to the life of

Shri Ram indicating the location of planets vis-a-vis zodiac

constellations and the other visible stars (nakshatras). A similar

position of planets and nakshatras vis-a-vis zodiac constellations

has not been repeated in thousands of years. By entering the precise

details of the planetary configuration of the important events in the

life of Shri Ram, as given in the Valmiki Ramayana, in the software

named Planetarium corresponding exact dates of these events according

to English calendar can be known.

 

Pushkar Bhatnagar, of the Indian Revenue Service, had acquired

Planetarium from the USA. It is used to predict the solar/lunar

eclipses and distance and location of other planets from the earth by

the scientists and astronomers. He entered the relevant details about

the planetary positions vis-a-vis zodiac constellations narrated by

Valmiki and obtained convincing results, thus almost determining the

important dates starting from the birth of Shri Ram to the date of

his coming back to Ayodhya after 14 years of exile.

 

 

Valmiki has recorded in Bal Kaand Sarga 19 and shloka 8 and 9

(1/18/8,9) that Shri Ram was born on the ninth tithi of Chaitra month

when the position of different planets vis-a-vis zodiac

constellations and nakshatras (visible stars) was as under :- 1 Sun

in Aries ii) Saturn in Libra iii) Jupiter in Cancer iv) Venus in

Pisces v) Mars in Capricorn vi) Lunar month of Chaitra vii) Ninth day

after no moon viii) Lagna as Cancer (Cancer was rising in the east)

ix) Moon on the Punarvasu (Gemini constellation & Pollux star) x) Day

time (around noon)

 

This data was fed into the Planetarium software. The results

indicated that this was exactly the location of planets/stars vis-a-

vis zodiac constellations on January10, noon time in the year 5114

BC. As per the Indian calendar, it was the ninth day of Shukla Paksha

in Chaitra month and the time was around 12 to 1 noontime. This is

exactly the time and date when Ram Navmi is celebrated all over India

till date.

 

Shri Ram was born in Ayodhya: This fact can be ascertained from

several books written by Indian and foreign authors before and after

the birth of Christ e.g. Valmiki Ramayana, Tulsi Ramayana, Kalidasa's

Raghuvansam, Bodh and Jain literature etc. These books have narrated

in great detail the location, the rich architecture and the beauty of

Ayodhya which had many palaces and temples built all over the vast

kingdom. Ayodhya was located over the banks of Saryu River with Ganga

and Panchal Pradesh on one side and Mithila on the other side.

Normally 7,000 years is a very long period during which earthquakes,

storms, floods and foreign invasions change the course of rivers,

destroy towns and buildings and alter the territories. Therefore, the

task of unearthing facts is monumental. The present Ayodhya is

shrunken in size and the rivers have changed their course about 40 km

north/south.

 

Shri Ram went out of Ayodhya in his childhood (13th year as per

Valmiki Ramayana with Rishi Vishwamitra who lived in Tapovan

(Sidhhashram) and from there he went to Mithila, the kingdom of King

Janaka. Here, he married Sita after breaking the Shiv dhanusha.

Researchers have gone along the route adopted by Shri Ram as narrated

in Valmiki Ramayana and found 23 places which have memorials existing

even as on date to commemorate the events related to his life.

 

These include Shringi Ashram, Ramghat, Tadka Van, Sidhhashram,

Gautamashram, Janakpur (now in Nepal) and Sita Kund etc. Memorials

are built for great human beings and not for fictitious characters.

 

Date of exile of Shri Ram: In Valmiki Ramayana it is mentioned in

Ayodhya Kand (2/4/18) that Dashratha wanted to make Shri Ram the king

because Sun, Mars and Rahu had surrounded his nakshatra and normally

under such planetary configuration the king dies/or becomes a victim

of conspiracies. The zodiac sign of king Dashratha was Pisces and his

nakshatra was Rewati. This planetary configuration was prevailing on

the January 5, 5089 BC. It was on this day that Shri Ram had to leave

Ayodhya for living in the forests for 14 years. He was 25 years old

at that time (5114-5089) and there are several shlokas in the Valmiki

Ramayana which indicate that Shri Ram was 25 years old when he left

Ayodhya for 14 years of exile.

 

Valmiki Ramayana refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with

Khardushan in latter half of 13th year of Shri Ram's living in

forests. Valmiki has also mentioned that it was Amavasya that day and

planet Mars was in the middle. When this data was entered, the

computer software indicated that there was a solar eclipse on October

7, 5077 BC (Amavasya day) which could be seen from Panchvati. On that

date, the planetary configuration was the same as has been described

by Valmiki i.e. Mars was in the middle, on one side were Venus and

Mercury and on the other side were Sun and Saturn. On the basis of

planetary configurations described in various other chapters, the

date on which Ravana was killed works out to December 4, 5076 BC.

Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on January 2, 5075 BC. That day

was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra month. Thus, Shri Ram had

come back to Ayodhya when he was 39 years old (5114-5075).

 

Ram Avtar, who had done research on places visited by Shri Ram during

14 years of exile and sequentially moved to the places stated as

visited by Shri Ram in the Valmiki Ramayana, started from Ayodhya and

went right upto Rameshwaram. He found 195 places which still have the

memorials connected to the events narrated in the Ramayana relating

to the life of Shri Ram and Sita. These places include: Tamsa Tal

(Mandah), Shringverpur (Singraur), Bhardwaj Ashram (situated near

Allahabad), Atri Ashram, Markandeya Ashram (Markundi), Chitrakoot,

Parnakuti (on banks of Godavari), Panchvati, Sita Sarovar, Ram Kund

in Triambakeshwar near Nasik, Shabari Ashram, Kishkindha (village

Annagorai), Dhanushkoti and Rameshwar temple.

 

Recently, the Sri Lankan government had expressed a desire to develop

Sita Vatika as a tourist spot. Sri Lankans believe that this was

Ashok Vatika where Ravana had kept Sita as a prisoner (that was year

5076 BC). An American company engaged in exploring the oceans had put

pictures on the Internet of a curved bridge, the ruins of which are

lying submerged in Gulf of Mannar between Rameshwaram and Sri Lanka.

The age of the stones used has been estimated at 17 million years,

though the period of the construction of the bridge has still not

been estimated.

 

Indian history has recorded that Shri Ram belonged to the Surya Vansh

and was the 64th ruler of this dynasty. The names and other relevant

particulars of previous 63 kings are listed on in Ayodhya Ka Itihas

written about 80 years back by Rai Bahadur Sita Ram and the ancestors

of Shri Ram have been traced out as under: Shri Ram, S/o King

Dashratha, S/o King Aja, S/o King Raghu, S/o King Dilip and so on ——-)

 

>From Kashmir to Kanyakumari and from Bengal to Gujarat, everywhere

people believe in the reality of Shri Ram's existence, particularly

in the tribal areas of Himachal, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and the

North-East. Most of the festivals celebrated in these tribal areas

revolve around the events in the life of Shri Ram and Shri Krishna.

During Ram Rajya, the evils of caste system based on birth were non-

existent. Valmiki is stated to be a Shudra. Sita lived with him as

his adopted daughter after she was banished from Ayodhya and Shri

Ram's children Luv and Kush grew in his ashram as his disciples.

Valmiki was, perhaps, the first great astronomer and that his study

of planetary configurations has stood the test of time. Even the

latest computer software corroborated his astronomical calculations,

proving that he did not commit any error. Shabari is stated to be

belonging to Bheel tribe and the army of Shri Ram, which succeeded in

defeating Ravana was also formed by various tribals from Central and

South India. Facts, events and other relevant details relating to the

life of Shri Ram are the common heritage of all the Indians.

 

 

 

 

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If the planets had different orbits and orbital speeds in the past,

and different intensities of gravity, then all of these calculations,

at least the ones with reference to the distant past, such as the

astronomical calculations with reference to previous yugas, become

defective, to say the least.

 

The Brihat Jataka mentions placements for Venus which are impossible

today, suggesting that indeed, the above points are valid.

 

Dharmapad

 

 

 

vediculture, "vrnparker" <vrnparker>

wrote:

> HinduThought, "S. Kalyanaraman"

> <kalyan97> wrote:

>

> Just as the Mahabharata date has been unraveled as circa 3000 BCE

(I

> think this is the best fit with the texts as recorded in the

> Sukthankar Critical Edition -- despite alternative opinions

expressed

> based in vernacular versions of MBh), using 150 observed

astronomical

> events recorded in the text and validating the sky epigraphs with

> planetarium software (see http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati), is it

> possible to unravel the date of Ramayana events using the software?

> Here is a reference to an attempt made by Pushkar Bhatnagar.

>

>

>

> Kalyanaraman