Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 BJP News <bjpnews >bjp-l (BJP Discussion Group) >vaidika1008 >[bJP News] "Lord Ram was born in 5114 BC" >Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:27:00 -0800 (PST) > >'Lord Ram was born in 5114 BC' >SUNIT BEZBAROOWA & ARVIND JOSHI >TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 08, 2003 02:12:42 AM ] > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/xml/uncomp/articleshow?msid=273107 >"Ram was and is for real. He was born on January 10, 5114 BC," Saroj Bala, >IRS, Commisioner of Income Tax says, calmly, with the assurance of one who >has tangible facts. Taking on the contemporary historical interpretation >of Ramayana as a religio-literary text, and Lord Ram as a semi-mythical >figure, is this unassuming person who zealously devotes her spare time to >research in history when she's not playing the tax mandarin. And she has >chosen the unusual combination of astronomy, Internet and literary texts >to provide us a startling picture of Shri Ram. This might change the way >we look at history and religion. We might refuse to begin reading Indian >history from that comma, or hyphen called 'Indus Valley.' We might have to >stretch the beginnings by a few thousand years because, as Saroj Bala says >- Ram was born on January 10, 5114 BC. Excerpts of an interview with the >lady who has the intellectual courage to go beyond the obvious: > >What got it all started As an amateur historian, I've always been >interested in Indian culture and heritage. I am proud that we're Indians >and the products of one of the oldest civilisations. However, British rule >changed us; we developed a sense of being somehow inferior. But I could >never reconcile to theories like the theory of Aryan invasion to India in >1500 BC. That would make Indian civilization only 3,500 years old. And if >you choose archaeology to dig beyond 7,000 years, you'd have to dig more >than 60 metres - something not being done in India as yet. So, archaeology >is not the only answer. There's a lot of objective research of another >kind that needs to be carried out in earnest. > >So, how can we say Ram was born on January 10, 5114 B.C My colleague >Pushkar Bhatnagar of Indian Revenue Service is the real originator of this >theory. He acquired a software named Planetarium, used to predict >planetary movements and configurations. By entering in this software, >precise details of planetary positions vis--vis zodiac constellations >described by Maharishi Valmiki in the Valmiki Ramayan, it is possible to >determine important dates starting from Shri Ram's birth-date to the date >of his return to Ayodhya. > >More than just Ram's date of birth The results have not just thrown up >Shri Ram's date of birth; it has actually traced the entire sequence of >incidents throughout Ramayan. Pushkar Bhatnagar starts with tracing Ram's >birth. Then he moves ahead in the narrative. Valmiki Ramayan states Ram >was 25-years-old when he went to exile. When the configuration of planets >described at this point is fed into the software, the date thrown up >matches perfectly with Ram's age at that juncture of his life - 25 years. >Again in the 13th year of Ram's exile, during a war with Khar and Dushan, >Valmiki describes a solar eclipse. The software proves that on that given >day there was indeed a solar eclipse (with Mars in the middle). This solar >eclipse and the particular configuration of planets could be seen from >Panchavati (longitude and latitude plainly shown in the software). > >Hanuman Saw 8 Constellations while flying to Lanka In the Sunderkand, when >Valmiki describes Hanuman crossing the sea and returning from Lanka to >Rameshwaram, he gives details of 8 constellations. Usually, one can see >not more than 6 constellations at a given point of time. But since Hanuman >was flying across, and it must have taken him approximately 4 hrs to get >there, he could see 8 constellations - in two hours one constellation >would have moved out of sight and another become visible. So, in a period >of 4 hrs he saw 8 constellations! > >Historicising Shri Ram. Man or God After researching on Shri Ram, I do >believe he's a man who walked the earth in flesh and blood. There is an >essential difference between the Valmiki Ramayana and the Tulsi Ramayana. >Tulsidas was a devotee who looked up to Ram, but Valmiki was a >contemporary. Valmiki has written Ram's life-history, as a biographer does >- he's a contemporary of Ram, and this is not very different from what >happens all over the world. Kings have always had their life-history >written. > >The submerged bridge Recently, NASA had put pictures on the Internet of a >man-made bridge, the ruins of which are submerged in Palk Strait between >Rameshwaram and Sri Lanka. This clearly should be treated as historical >evidence that corroborates its mention in Valmiki Ramayana. > >The puzzle of Indian history The presence of Ramayana, Mahabharata and >Vedas cannot be explained by the short period between the decline of the >Indus valley civilization and the Rig Vedic period. A civilization cannot >suddenly burst into advanced writing. One needs to look at various sources >of history to re-build it. Especially when looking at ancient history. One >needs to excavate, look at literature, ancient texts, astronomy. > >Government apathy to archaeological diggings and investigation in this >direction There's been a very strange development in the media and the >people of India. We have started seeing ancient India as something >equivalent to the word 'Hindu'. The very word Hindu came into circulation >only after the advent of Islam in India. In Ramayana and the Vedas , there >is no mention of the word 'Hindu'. At the most, there is only mention of >terms like 'Aryavrat' or 'Bharatvarsh' and residents here are called as >'Aryans'. Since centuries, Christians, Muslims, Sikhs have been living in >this country and it's their land as much as it is to a Hindu. Anything >that has happened on this land in the past is their common heritage. But, >unfortunately, politicians with vested interests have divided the people >on artificial religious lines and making it appear that anything related >to ancient India was perhaps related to Hindu, which is not the case and >should not be the case. > >There has never been any strong will It is not that researches have been >not taken place. There has been excellent work done by noted historians >like Sir Alexander Cunningham and Dr Lal. Cunningham has written as many >as 21 volumes on ancient Indian history. But one needs special permissions >to access these texts. Unfortunately, Cunningham's work that has very >important information has not seen the light of the day. Dr. Lal has >pictured the ancient city of Dwarka and it can be read in 'The lost city >of Dwarka'. He has listed out 1000 artifacts. Only 9 crores needed to be >sanctioned by the government in placing a transparent tube to the sea-bed >that could allow people to see for themselves the wonder that was Dwarka. >And now people equate the sum total of ancient history to 'a temple or >no-temple' at Ayodhya. >Delay in research also because science hadn't arrived Without the aid of >science it is practically impossible to manually calculate the exact >planetary configuration 7, 000 years back. It is science which is going to >validate our history and prove that it is much older than 3, 500 years. > >What would be the implications of your research on the society? I >seriously feel that there can only be positive effects of my research. In >fact, Indians should seriously re-look how old is our history and culture. >This is not the end of the research; it's just the beginning. People >should be encouraged to do more in-depth research by all means such as >archaeology, dating methods and oceanography. Max Mueller had come up with >the theory that Aryans had come to India in 1500 B.C. In the Internet, Max >Mueller Foundations says that that they have re-looked at this theory and >is of the opinion that this theory is no longer valid because Indian >history is much older than that period. It's just that people have to open >up their minds and find out the answers for themselves. > > > > _______________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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