Re:U.S. Presidential Election 2004

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"drew lawrence" vrnparker Subject: Re:U.S. Presidential

Election 2004Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:21:59 +0000Hey Vrindavan,Hari Bol. No, I

didn't take into account the US yearly chart although I have looked at it.Also,

I am using birth info for each candidate from Lois Rodden's database. So, if

either person's info is wrong, then I may well be wrong. But, we'll

see.Jayo,DrewDrew LawrenceMonduffBallyedmonduff RoadStepaside, Dublin

18IrelandIn Ireland: (01) 294-6888From U.S. 011 353 1

294-6888www.drewlawrence.com>Vrn Parker >To:

drewjlawrence (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>Re:U.S. Presidential Election 2004>Date:

Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:02:29 -0700 (PDT)>>Dear Drew,>its

been great getting yr messages.Thank you. I have been sharing them with

>friends. I got some interesting feedback from Dr David Frawley and others >on

this recent message about the US elections. Basically they are saying >you need

to take into account the chart of the nation, ie. USA in order to >predict the

outcome.>because the outcome is in a few days, can you please let me know if

you >have done this in your calculations? does your report change when this is

>taken into account?>namaste, vrndavan parker>>MESSAGE FROM DAVID FRAWLEY RE:

YOUR REPORT>Most Vedic astrologers have predicted a victory for Bush, but not

all.>For>example, Vinay Aditya, who was one of the few astrologers

that>predicted the>Congress win in the last Indian election, has predicted

Kerry will win.>He has>taken the American annual chart into account on this

matter.>>I am not so

certain that Bush will win as Kerry has overall a stronger>chart,>though he is

in a weaker period. However, I would certainly like to see>Kerry>win and so

that may cloud my perception.>>Vamadeva aka Dr David Frawley>>>

GWBrennan (AT) aol (DOT) com>Re: Vedic Astrology Re:U.S. Presidential Election

2004>>Regarding the lively Bush/Kerry controversy. I would like to add

my>contribution as well.>>I have recently done a lot of research on the annual

new year chart.>It>seems to me that there is a considerable degree of

self-deception in>trying to>balance fine distinctions against fine distinctions

in the charts of>the>candidates when it is not the whole picture anyway. This is

a really>major>national and international event and mundane astrology can answer

it.>In fact it>should be a recognized principle of

astrology that when an event gets>to the>national level of importance then the

annual chart for the nation will>show>what is happening. This could save

astrologers with much better>reputations>than me from making complete fools of

themselves and reducing the>status of>astrology by using methods which do not

work because they do not>address the>crucial issue.>>Sanjay Rath has recently

written on this

at>_http://parasara.blogspot.com/_>(http://parasara.blogspot.com/) using the

Tithi Pravesha chart, one>of the>mundane methods, and has come out in favour of

Kerry. The annual new>year>chart or Chaitra Shukla chart will without doubt show

exactly what>will happen>and if you apply the appropriate dasha it will show

when it will>happen.>Other people may be able to read this better than I can,

and if I get>this wrong>it is not

the fault of the chart, as it is accurate.>>The chart data is 20/3/2004 at

17.41.24 hrs in Washington DC>Ascendant is>Leo 29.43 degrees.>>The ascendant

lord Sun - president - is weak due to the lagna and in>the 8th>and aspected by

Saturn from divisive Gemini. He is with dark Moon>repres>enting public and they

do not like what he is doing. Lord of the>tenth is with>the evil-doer Rahu in

the 9th (12th house of loss in relation to>10th). Lord>of 12th is also with the

lord of the 1st along with debilitated lord>of>11th, all not good news. Lord of

4th - domestic opposition - is in>10th of high>office and lord of 9th is Mars,

same as lord of 4th and could also>represent>a senator going from the 9th

Senate to the 10th White House. Saturn>represents dissatisfied masses and he

aspects the ascendant, the fifth>of job loss>and the lord

of the 5th, and the ascendant Lord Sun. Using Shripati>house>calculation he goes

from 11th to 10th. Saturn also represents harsh>judgement>and forced decisions

and I think it is possible that Kerry will get to>the>White House backed by a

court decision made on behalf of the public.>Either that>or there is just a

sudden rush for Kerry.>>Mars Dasha - compressed Vimshottari works on every

chart I have tried ->begins on 1st November and indicates both strife and

victory for the>opposition>party, especially as Mars gives his results

quickly.>>If anyone can read a Bush victory from this I would be delighted

to>hear the>argument.>>Regards>>Gordon Brennan>>>>>[This message contained

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7> Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:09:28 EDT> vedicinst (AT) aol (DOT) com>Re:

Vedic Astrology Re:U.S. Presidential Election 2004>>In a message dated

10/29/2004 3:19:17 PM Mountain Daylight Time,>GWBrennan (AT) aol (DOT) com writes:>I have

recently done a lot of research on the annual new year chart.>It>seems to me

that there is a considerable degree of self-deception in>trying to>balance fine

distinctions against fine distinctions in the charts of>the>candidates when it

is not the whole picture anyway.>--Yes this is a very important point. I have

worked a lot with the>annual>charts also. Comparing charts of candidates can be

too narrow

a>consideration.>The annual chart for USA is quite bad for 2004 and appears

worse in>2005. It is>easy to see major national upheavels in such charts.>>2005

chart shows a total eclipse of the Sun as Ascendant lord in the>eighth>house. If

2004 indicates a bad year for the president, whoever gets>elected>seems headed

for a difficult time. Ammachi also predicted a major>national>disaster for the

US in 2005.>>Yet dharmically speaking Kerry's chart has a strong Jupiter (guru)

in>the>tenth house. The chart of Bush is dominated by Saturn and

Mars.>>Vamadeva>>>>>>>Read only

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