Guest guest Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 Vegetarian in Indian Tradition ? Percentages of vegetarian population ? Any info and present situation ? 2000 years ago ? and any other related info Thanks for help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:50:33 EST vedicinst Re: Vegetarian in Indian Tradition ? Vegetarian in Indian Tradition ? The Hindu tradition has always emphasized vegetarian diet for spiritual practice and recommended it in general for everyone. However, Hinduism has never excluded non-vegetarians, which have existed among certain classes, including Kshatriyas, and in certain communities of the country, like the northeast or in coastal areas (where some Hindus eat fish), or in mountain areas where vegetarian food is hard to find. Buddhism has also emphasized vegetarian diet, but the great majority of Buddhists today, including most monks are not vegetarians. It is interesting to note that no country in history has consumed meat to the extent of modern America and its beef culture, which culture it is now trying to export worldwide. Meat, particularly red meat, was generally scarce in most non-vegetarian cultures. Vamadeva Tue, 2 Nov 2004 10:52:21 -0500 "Renu Malhotra" <renu RE: Vegetarian in Indian Tradition ? A comment: Yes, Kshatryas were allowed to eat non -vegetarian food. However, the women if not involved in warfare (many were) did not eat non-veg. food. Food according to what our line of work. True in my husbands family and also among many Sikh families even today. (Sikh Dharma was an attempt by the Gurus to take Hindus back to Vedic Dharma, so every Sikh is from a Hindu family.) The British of course tried to put as many obstacles in the way of that Harmony!!\ I think one help that our group the VFA can give is to make the ordinary US citizen (White and non white) understand that it is religions that wrongly claim to have the one right path to the Almighty that are the enemies of Humanity not the HINDUS as the two religions claim. In all these years of giving public talks to ordinary people here -even in conservative Grand Rapids I find people very nice and helpful. It is the system against the citizen; the system is the power structure that we ordinaries validate. If we knew our strength then the system would come down to accommodate us rather than we accommodate the SYSTEM. We should work on this together more and more now! Shubha Deepaavali from the Malhotra family to all VFA - Family. Renu friend vijai <friend_vijai RE: Vegetarian in Indian Tradition ? Enlightening information from Vamadeva Shastri Ji and Renu Ji. I suppose Vedic culture differenciated between veg and non-veg eating habbits but never discriminated people on eating habbits. Only those Kshatriyas who opted for non-veg during certain war like circumstances (like modren day comandos who have to live in places where they is no access to veg food) were permitted to eat non-veg in a regulated way, but was limited to fish and rarely red meat was taken. Non-veg eating was generally limited to the lower cardre of the military but the generals were mostly vegetarians as they were in the Kshatriya-Bhramana (mixed mode). Most kings were vegetarian during the Vedic times. In vedic times the choice was very clear to the people, those who opted for spiritual life had to give up non-veg as it is a hinderence to spiritual progress. Those who opted for materialistic life, were permited to eat non-veg (please note the word permitted here, because it was strictly regulated, and was not at all encouraged, so that it does not become an indulgence, as it is happending in todays world with the advent of kaliyuga). Thanks, Vijai nmchad108 Re: Vegetarian in Indian Tradition ? Vijai and VFA friends, The rajasic (passion) and tamasic (ignorance) qualities that result from the eating of flesh, as stated in the Bhagavad-gita, may be conducive for warfare, but not for spiritual life or education. As a teacher, I come in contact with children everyday whose senses are agitated by the violent and sexual visuals of television and movies and foods and drugs which elevate the gunas of rajas and tamas. It is cruel for parents who are ignorant of these qualities to allow their children to become so mentally and physically agitated that they are literally uncomfortable in their own bodies. These bundles of raw senses and lethargy are dumped into our classrooms and expected to focus on anything meaningful. Luckily I have taught gurukula children enough to know the standard and the possibilities of children raised in a nurturing and sattvic environment. Yogi children are taught the benefits of controlling their senses, while most Western children are conditioned to exploit their senses as much as possible, since they only have one lifetime in which to enjoy. Although I am generally optimistic, it is still very difficult to see children suffer and not being able to truly help them because of the restrictive laws of our education system. Teachers can even be arrested for displaying anti-war signs in our classrooms. DDJP "Yvette C. Rosser" <y.r.rani Re: Vegetarian in Indian Tradition ? This is very relevant. Americans are toxic due to eating beef. They can't function with all the poison in their blood. > vediculture, "vrindavan2378" <vrindavan@r...> wrote: > > > Vegetarian in Indian Tradition ? > Percentages of vegetarian population ? > > Any info and present situation ? > 2000 years ago ? > > and any other related info > > Thanks for help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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