Guest guest Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Re:What makes Bush tick? Dear All, I am very surprised to see members of this group accepting the NYT as a reliable source of information. As someone who has witnessed both the Indian media and the American media's complete bias and distortion of anything and everything traditional, religious or nationalistic, I have no faith in these reports. I see the same treatment by the media of the RSS/VHP/BJP and their leaders as I see being done to George W Bush and the American Conservative movement. While its acceptable in the Media for one to have faith in all kinds of nonsense, anyone who has faith in God or traditional values and dares to enter the realm of politics or education is immediatly deemed 'scary.' To myself and millions of other Americans, there is nothing more frightening than the 'faith' of the secularists, atheists,abortionists and sexual hedonists. The fact is, more genocide and tragedy has been caused in this world by atheistic and secular regimes. The 'Reality Based Community' (RBC)types the NYT is refering to, are those who are not in touch with anything else except their pocketbooks and whatever selfish pleasures they are involved with. This 'RBC' is made of people who consider 'faith' a mental illness though they have 'faith' in all kinds of psuedo- scientific theories that are constanlty changing or as the NYT likes to call it in referance to JKerry's inconsistencies, 'evolving.' This 'reality based community' is completely arrogant and ignorant despite their 'scientific faith.' Blinded, they can not even accept what any common person knows..that unborn children are living human beings and unnecessarily aborting them is a most heinous and vile form of murder and genocide. It is this fact alone that is causing millions of Americans to support G.W.Bush. They see him as a sign of hope at the end of a dark tunnel that has seen the murder of over 30 million helpless babies. If he really is deserved of this hope, I can not say, but that is how he is percieved. The article is classic NYT gutter journalism. It speaks of a broken Republican party but is silent about the turmoil within the American Political left. Socially liberal Americans are being forced to accept Abortion on demand, partial-birth abortion, dissolution of family authoritative structure by illegalizing parental notification laws regarding abortion, over-sexualization of children in the name of tolerance, Gay Marriage, destruction of fathers by revoking drivers liscenses, work permits for those behind in their child support payments. Promotion of 'alternative' lifestyles in schools while religion is banned. Support for extreme Islamic and Marxist ideologies in our college campuses.Thus many socially liberal Americans, like myself, are unable to support the Democratic party. The fact is, only becasue the media is doing such a hatchet job on Bush are millions of Americans voting for Kerry. It is out of fear that Bush will take away their 'Freedom.' Look at those opposing Bush for re-election, the Porno industry, the NYT and all the other 'liberal' media, the Arab-American Muslims, the Black Muslims, Illegal Immigrant Lobby, the Abortion industry, the Labor Unions, the Communist Party, the Gay and Lesbian movement, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton (Anti-white Racist 'Christian' preachers that support abortion and in Jackson's case a history of sexual misconduct, blackmail and extortion), all the Human Rights Groups that are silent about the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Kashmiri Hindus and India's Tribals, Communist China, the UN and the EU. None of these groups care or have my interest or the majority of American's interest at heart. Rather they are all inimical to the average American's well being. Another interesting fact is that for over a decade, many of these same groups rightfully bemoaned the plight of Iraq's people under the UN sanctions regime. Millions died or had their quality of life destroyed to a level of bare sustenance. While the US and Britain spent billions maintaining the UN's genocidal sanction campaign, the UN,EU and Saddam made billions by skimming profits off the Food for Oil scheme. In other words, Iraq's people starved to death while the EU, UN, Russia and Kofi Annan's family members got rich. The same scheme has been going on in Palestinian territories as well. Its a brilliantly simple scheme. Highlight the suffering of the people through UN Human rights groups and a complicit media. Get billions in donations worth of food and medical supplies and then sell these items either to the suffering victims or anyone willing to pay. Its a pure profit scheme. Force countries like the USA to supply the goods free of charge then sell it. With no Purchasing costs, it is impossible to not make a profit. Under George Bush the USA was obviously sick of this outrage and by invading Iraq, he is trying to change the scenario towards America's benefit. Iraq's death rate under the UN sanctions was exceptionally high but it was ignored by the media. The current struggle in Iraq is more explosive and looks more exciting on the evening news, but the death rate does not compare. What is even more surprising is that people like Clinton are forgiven and loved though they oversaw agressive war campaigns such as Kosovo. A campaign in which more bombs were dropped in one month then the whole of WWII. His wife, Hillary, tried to enforce mandatory vaccination on all Americans without regard to their 'Freedom of Choice.' Strange coming from a champion of 'Women's Choice' that has massacred millions of unborn babies. This NYT's article belittles President Bush's use of 'instinct' though this same 'instinct' is used to make billions of dollars in the stock market. Such 'Gut Instinct' has always played an important part throughout history especially in regards to leadership and warfare. Experts in political science say that it is one of the key ingredients that make up great leadership. It does not always work, of course, but one is challenged to find any great leader in any field, whether it be science, politics, religion, art, music or whatever that did not rely on their 'instincts.' So to belittle it just reveals the lack of character and depth of the writer. It actually exposes a sycophantic, dissipated blase nature that is common to the dull minded 'Reality Based Community.' There are some other very important points which the NYT and its like never inform us about. It is the fact that while America has a legitimate system for electing its own judges and passing its own laws, there are efforts underway to usurp our legal authority and give it to foreign judges. When a judge gets his post in the USA, they are either publicly elected, or forced to go through a variety of hearings. Meanwhile, Clinton's last act as President was to sign over that authority to Judges based in the Hague, in the EU. While treaties like the Kyoto protocals sound so positive, once again, we see that Americans are being asked to give up control over our own economy to some International Agency that is unaccountable to our needs. I find it revealing that Russia finally broke down and signed the Kyoto protocals so recently after the horrific Beslan massacre. Of course, that could be a complete coincidence but however you look at it, what is taking place is the usurption of democracy and the empowerment of a global oligarchy unanswerable to and out of touch with the citizens of the Nation in question. George Bush's first acts as President were to reverse Clinton's last act as President, in which he signed over legal authority of the US military to the UN and to reverse Clinton's first act which flooded millions of dollars into the Abortion industries' coffers. So I will definately prefer Bush's 'instinct' over Clinton's sellouts. As for John Kerry, by his own admission he committed war atrocities. He admitted to this during an interview on "Meet the Press" in 1971. I know many people who served in Vietnam who fought in battle but never committed war atrocities. The fact that John Kerry committed war atrocities reveals an either weak-willed person or one with a psychopathic nature. Some would say he was noble for admitting to it, that is great for the confessional but not for someone who may be President. Besides the moral implications, such information can be used to blackmail and manipulate him against the service of the Nation. It is that alone that compromises him and he is thus unfit for command. It is also interesting to note the article's quoting of Sen Joseph Biden. This man is so inimical to India that India's Foreign Minister refused to meet with him. Now about India. We see many simmilarities between India and America. They are both vibrant democracies both capable of taking care of their own needs, issues and problems. They are both proud nationalistic countries that participate in the world community out of choice rather than necessity. In other words they are completley capable of self sufficiency in all areas of life. They both have a citizenry that is very religious and a general lifestyle that is based in traditional spiritual and family values. They also control two of the most powerful militaries on the globe. India and America both share a common strength of unity in diversity and have citizens of many ethnic, political and linguistic identities. This strength is seen as the weakness of both by their enemies. In India there is the approx 12% Muslim community and in America there is the approx 12% Black community. In both countries, efforts at equalization have been carried to the extreme esp in India. Thus Muslims get subsidized trips to Mecca, though it is paradoxically illegal for the Indian govt to support any religious activity by Hindus. In America, 'Hate Crime' laws have been enacted that punish minor crimes towards a minority and trivilize the most gruesome assaults on the majority. Though a majority of America's uneducated and desparately poor are its white citizens, very little efforts are made to help them. In India, minority institutions are elevated to a near sacred status while majority Hindu institutions are starved for assistance. Both the USA and India are seen as stumbling blocks to the efforts of the Global elitists. Their self-reliance and National pride and confidence are belittled and any organized efforts by Traditional, Patriotic and Nationalistic movements are demonized by the Media. The Media stimulates minority groups through fear and entitlements and highlights the bogey of the 'Extreme Right.' The dedication of these Traditional groups to its own values,ethos and culture is promoted as 'Hate' and an attack on 'Freedom.' Paradoxically, the same commitment to the Traditions and Culture of Minority groups is promoted as 'Diversity' and 'Tolerance.' Thus one sees in America, public displays of 'Black Power, 'Latino's La Raza' or the Latino Pride of the'Race.' There are also the 'Gay Pride' parades. There is BET, the 'Black Entertainment Television.' Any efforts to organize 'White People' is demonized as racist. In my opinion, such racial groups of all kinds are a disservice to the unity of a Nation and all Americans must be given the same opputunities under the law.In Hawaii,the 50th US state, White people are publicly labeled 'Haole' which means a Dead Person. Though many White Americans are uncomfortable with this term, the media and academia refuse to denounce the term and it is constantly applied. The fact is all these minority appeasement programs are exposes on the inability of the political leaders to govern. In any other field, it would be unnacceptable if only the minority of an issue was addressed. It is a total cop-out. To use a basic example, Imagine your dis-satisfaction if you took your car to a mechanic and he ignored the majority of your car troubles and only focused on the minority issues. You would not want to pay him and you would seek someone who would solve all the problems with your vehicle, both the major issues sand the minor issues. In other words, both India and America have a system that ignores it duties to the Nation as a whole by highligthing its efforts towards a minority of its people. In this way, it dons the cloak of humane governance while letting most of its citizens rot. When these citizens attempt to help themselves and enter the political arena to level the playing field, the media pushes the fear button and attempts to discredit their efforts. These so- called 'Liberals' of the 'Reality Based Community' are dedicated to the oppression of Traditonal Cultural Values, specifically those based on Spirituality and God. Anything that threatens their selfish hedonistic outlook and develops a moral compass in the youth is scorned. So in conclusion, I must address the assault of the Christian missionaries in India. As a White American Hindu, I am in complete agreement that this is wrong and an assault on the human rights of Indian Hindus. I must also point out that I do not know George Bush personally, so I can not try to defend him in this regard. However the alternative consumer based hedonistic American culture is definately as much or more of a danger to India. Simply put, I believe that the Conservative Christian values of Billy Graham,(G.W.Bush's 'Guru') are good for America. George Bush's life story is but one example.There are millions of Americans who have found an anchor in the ocean of social chaos that is America by turning to Jesus. This is a good and positive thing. However, if and when this new found conviction is turned upon the Indian people it is not a positive thing. Why? Because India has its own rich tradition of spirituality. Rather than one Jesus Christ, India has had thousands. Rather than one expression of Divinity, India has millions, which include both Jesus and Mohammed. So A line must be drawn. India does not need the Evangilical efforts of the Christians. But once again because of the media and the academia, Hindus are seen as 'lost heathens' and anyone with compassion wants to help one that is lost. The solution is that the Hindus must be strong not only within their community but must also have a strong and concise message that clearly tells the world who we are. We are not lost and actually can help anyone and everyone find their own way to perfection. But we can not expect anyone to recognize this when we are constantly amatuerish, colloquial and lackadaisical in our approach. Lets take the example of Britain and Germany.Recently, the British Royal family apologised to Germany for its horrific WWII bombing campaigns against the Germans. The question is why apologise after 60 years? The answer is not because England saw the error of its ways. No its because Germany is a dominant world power and active in diplomacy and overall strong. Thus it benefits England to make amends. The fact is, this same Royal family and Nation of Britain have alot of amends to make with India as well. It has yet to do any such thing because India has yet to make its case to the world at large. It is basically unknown and will never be known until India reveals the truth of its amazing history and culture to the common public. If India's own people dont care enough to present themselves in a strong and dynamic way then why should anyone else? Of course, efforts are being made but most westerners know more about the Taj Mahal and Gandhi then anything else about India. With over 5000 years of history, India has alot more to offer. In both the political and cultural fields, India has not been very successful in its outreach to America. Hindus themselves have yet to present their culture in a comprehensible and concise way. In fact, from personal experiance, I have seen Christains develop great respect and appreciation once they could understand the richness and depth of Hindu/Vedic culture. My gurudev, Srila Prabhupada, frequently enchanted and blossomed admiration in the hearts of Christians for Vedic philosophy and culture. So once, the Hindus themselves, begin to speak and present themselves to the world in a clear and concise way, a majority of those dedicated to traditional, spiritual and cultural values will recognize in us, allies worthy of respect and admiration. For America to lose its Christian-based traditional values is not a good thing for India or the world. If George Bush is truly a follower of Lord Jesus Christ, this is a great and noble thing. Rather than buy into the slander of his faith and convictions, India and Hindus should see it as a positive oppurtunity to challenge him in his commitment to the teachings of Christ. If it is Love of God and faith in Jesus that makes him tick, I hope that he can use his political power for good. All people of faith should prefer that to the psuedo-secular anti-traditionalist outlook of the 'UNReality Based Community.' Rajeev Srinivasan <rajeev.srinivasan@g...> Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:41 am What makes Bush tick? October 31 Just in time for the final push, here's a really good -- some might say really scary -- analysis of what makes Dubya what he is. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html? pagewanted=all&position= The scary part is how the "reality-based community", that is to say, normal people, have been sidelined in the pursuit of this holy madness. There is the story of the early Christian hero, Tertullian (or is it Origen -- I can't remember, Subhash Kak refers to this in his wonderful work 'The Wishing Tree') who said regarding the contradictions in the Bible: "I believe, because it is absurd". Bush and co. remind me of this. And also about what George Bernard Shaw said, I paraphrase: "The problem with the world is that the clever are unsure and those who are sure are stupid" Rajeev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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