Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha srImadh varavara munayE namaha Dear Members, For the benefit of those who are not members in SV-General I am posting my rebuttal which I have posted in SV-General for the above subject. ======Original Message========== Dear Sri Krishnamachari swamy, You wrote: =========Quote 1================ Reference 1: >From the Foreward to "SrI vedAnta deSika stotras": SrI vedAnta deSika – A short biographical note" by R. Rangachari. SrI venkaTanAtha (venkaTeSa) was born in 1268 A.D. on the day specially sacred to the Lord of the venkaTa Hills (BhAdrapada SravaNa) in the village of tUppul. It was the year vibhava. The gOtra of viSvAmitra gained new luster by being associated with this propagator of the ancient and yet new philosophy – SrI rAmAnuja deSika darSana. After a measure of peace had been re-established at SrIra'ngam and the Deity returned to the temple, about 1358 A.D., SrI deSika also returned to SrIra'ngam and lived there for a few more years. He passed away in 1369 A.D. on the birth-day of his beloved tiruma'ngai AzhvAr (kArtikai kRttikA). =======Unquote 1================ I do not know who is Sri R.Rangachari. But how can you say that his observation is authentic. Is there any evidence with which he has substantiated his claim for the return of namperumAL in 1358 A.D I believe, the inscription on the walls of Srirangam are much more irrefutable. However if one starts questioning the authenticity of these inscriptions, which were made to be chiseled out by those great kings who won the war and reinstated namperumAL, what is the degree of authenticity one can attach to the later day writers? You say that by the above mentioned article it is proved that namperumAL returned to Srirangam in 1358. But look at the inscription. Atleast the inscription gives the date of return as clearly Vaikasi 17th in the year of 'parIdhApi'. Now we are in the 'chitrabhAnu' year in 2002. VaikAsi has just passed. Now let us back calculate as to which of the Julian-calendar year in the past are the tamizh year 'parIdhApi' with the month of 'vaikAsi'. I just did this backworking. The last 'parIdhApi-vaikAsi' was in the year 1972-1973. So going back exactly 600 years, it would have been during 1372-1373. As the inscription cleary says that the return is in "vaikAsi-parIdhApi", this should have been in the year 1372 and not even 1371. So one more year ahead. As we are all aware from undistorted historical evidences, the muhammedan invasion of Srirangam took place in the year 1311 and 1331. The 1311 was by Malik Kafur and the 1331 was by Ulugh Khan (Mohammed-bin-Thuglak). The year as referred by you as 1358 is 'viLambi', 1359 - 'vikAri', 1360-'chArvari'. Where is 'parIdhApi' in this? So this should have taken place either in 1372 or 1312. Now everyone knows that, when namperumAL went out(of Srirangam) during the 1311 invasion, his return was not due to GopaNNa udayAr but due to the temple servants themselves. This is clearly indicated in 'Koil Ozhugu'. Again, even if the 'Koil Ozhugu' can be discarded as not authentic due to some inconsistencies which are quite evident, every one is sure that the Vijayanagar kingdom was not even established during that period. All historians have uniformly accepted this. When this invasion took place, the Hoysalas were the major power in the South India. Now the Vijayanagar Kingdom was found by Harihara and Bukka in the year 1336 only. They started as a king of a small province and slowly expanded their boundaries. Surely by logic, 35 years would have been passed before they establish a massive empire, massive enough to defeat the muslims who were very mighty at that time. Let us even ignore this. What I wanted to convey is that the return of namperumAL for sure is in 'parIdhApi-vaikAsi'. If this is not 1312, undoubtedly it should be ONLY 1372. Certainly it could not be 1432. I am sure every one would agree to this. Again based on the above it could not be 1358 or 1359 or 1360. So how could Swamy dEsikan have been present in Srirangam when namperumAL returned in 1372, as he attained paramapadham in 1369. ================Quote 2==================== Kampana's (KOppANArya's) wife, who was a poetess who accompanied Kampana in his successful efforts to drive out the muslims from SrIrangam, madurai and other places, describes the desolate state of the SrIrangam temple as of 1360. My own note: Kampana's wife is unlikely to have visited the temple compound and premises and written a description of the sad state of the temple complex while it was under muslim occupation. It is reasonable to assume that she visited the temple complex after SrIrangam was conquered, and she had free access to the temple premises. This does not necessarily say that napmperumAL returned to the temple by this date, but it does suggest that SrIrangam was restored back to Kampana's control on or before the year 1360. ============Unquote 2================= Based on the above facts, the authenticity of even Sri M.R. Sampathkumaran's account is debatable. Again please note that KambaNa and GOpaNNa are two different personalities. Yes, KambaNa was the son of Bukka II and was the crowned prince of the Vijayangar kingdom. GOpaNNa was the Prime Minister of the kingdom at that time. KambaNA's wife is Ganga Devi who wrote the historic kAvyam "madhurA vijayam", in which he gives clear account that GOpaNNa headed the army which fought the muslims at Srirangam and her husband KambaNa headed the army which fought the muslims at Madhurai. Hence the title "madhurA vijayam". Though your own account regarding Ganga devi visiting Srirangam temple sounds logic, it really begs verification based on the above facts. Dear Sri Mani, you have indicated in one of your mails that the year inscribed as "bandhupriya" could actually be in error and it could actually be "bahupriya" and hence namperumAL would have been restored back in Srirangam much earlier than 1372 (1371) in 1360. Surprisingly I find no such year (both 'bandhupriya' and 'bahupriya') amongst any of the 60 years that are in vogue in the Sri Vaishnava panchAngams. Also while the inscriptions clearly indicate the year as 'parIdhApi', where from you got these two years? Are they the aliases for the years 'parIdhApi' and 'chArvari' respectively? Now I repose the same question that Sri SA Narasimhan has posed in his message. Why to go into unwarranted conclusions, when there is a clear evidence that namperumAL was restored in 1371(1372). This is like having butter in hand and searching for ghee. What is the purpose of this deliberate distortion of the historical facts? Dear Sri Malolan Cadambi, I went through your account. Atleast you seem to accept the date of return of namperumAL as 1371. But what is the basis of the work referred by you, in which it is stated that Swamy dEsikan came back to Srirangam and that namperumAL was restored much after Srirangam was liberated. I understood from the "MadhurA Vijayam" that namperumAL accompanied the entire army along with GOpaNNa and KambaNa and that he was immediately restored once Srirangam was liberated. One cannot discard this "MadhurA vijayam" as just a poem as all historians have a uniform acceptance that it was only this Ganga Devi who was the first to have any sense of recording history. AzhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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