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srImathE rAmAnujAya namah

 

dear bhAgavathAs,

 

I was reading through the first part of AchArya

hrdayam and a specific sUtram caught my eye. I want to

 

share the sUtra with you all.

 

Before I do that, a few words about AchArya hrdayam

from a layman's perspective. svAmi Azhagiya maNavALap

perumAL nAyanAr, who is the younger brother of svAmi

piLLai lOkAchAriAr, is incredible in his exposition of

 

the philosophy. With svAmi maNavALa mAmuni's

commentary, and the various tamizh translations of

that, it is an incredible source of clarity for us.

The first part of AchArya hrdayam, perhaps, is the

clearest and most non-confusing exponentiation of the

sampradAya that I have come across. svAmi minces no

words when discussing things like karma, varNA,

kainkaryam, sAstra and his clarity of thought is just

divine.

 

The specific sUtra that I want to share with you is

the

32nd sUtra. This sUtra helped me clear in my head

some of the typical confusions regarding karma etc.

 

the sUtra is as follows:

 

sAdhana sAdhyangaLil mudhalum mudivum, varNa

dharmigaL dAsa vrththigaL enRu thuRai

vERiduviththadhu.

 

A paraphrasing of svAmi MM's vyAkhyAnam is as follows:

 

for those who are involved in depth with kainkaryam,

they have no togetherness (sErththi is the tamizh

word)

with those who are involved in depth with karma.

 

i.e. sAdhanaththil mudhalum -the first step for

the sAdhana ==> karma

 

sAdhyaththil mudivum - the end of what is gotten ==>

the most superior of things that one can obtain - i.e.

kainkarya

 

varNadharmi ==>one who is deeply involved with

following

only the specified rules of his/her varNa/Ashrama

 

dAsavrththi ==>one who is the devotee of the Lord

 

i.e. karma and kainkarya cause us to be unrelated

{us ==> those who are focussed on following the

rules laid down for their jAti, and those who

are focussed on doing service to the Lord)

 

There is an anecdote mentioned in the vyAkhyAnam for

this sUTra.

 

In thiruvahIndrapuram, there was a person by name of

villipuththUrbhagavar. All the town people used to

go to the same area in the riverbank (thurai) for

doing the morning anushtAnams. However, he used to

go to a differnt place along the riverbank for the

daily morning rituals and come to town. One day,

the brahmins in the town asked him "Oh jIyaa,

why are u not coming to the place where we

perform morning rituals?". For that he replied

"Oh brAhmaNAs - we are vaishNavAs, devotees of

Lord vishNu. You are all brahmins who perform the

duties as laid out for the caste. There is no

oneness between us who do kainkaryam to the Lord

and you who focus on doing the duties as laid down

for the brahmin caste"!

 

What a clear thought process! Obviously he does

not mean that a brahmin cannot be a vaishNava.

What he means is that the mental mindset of a

vaishNava is different! - i.e. a vaishNava is less

bothered about the varnAshrama dharmAs, but more

bothered about performing service to the Lord!.

 

Though the above distinction can sometimes be

obvious, it really is a key feature. In previous

sUtrAs, svAmi clearly talks about karma being

associated with the body and kainkaryam being

associated with the soul. He further distinguishes

between "sAstris" and "marma sparsis" - i.e. between

those who follow the sAstra and those who

focus on the inner meaning of the thirumantram.

 

This attitude difference is apparent when we look

at many things - even to this day, we have people

who insist on the "superiority" of a brahmin

birth (while svAmi piLLai lOkAchAriAr has clearly

taught us otherwise), or who ascribe some

sort of a superiority to being born in a

srIvaishNava family. svAmi azhagiya maNavALap

perumAL nAyanAr teaches us one thing - all these

are related to your body and they are impermanent.

Focus on things related to your soul!

 

adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan,

varadhan

 

 

 

 

 

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ramanuja, Varadhan T A <tavaradhan> wrote:

> srImathE rAmAnujAya namah

>

> dear bhAgavathAs,

>

> > Though the above distinction can sometimes be

> obvious, it really is a key feature. In previous

> sUtrAs, svAmi clearly talks about karma being

> associated with the body and kainkaryam being

> associated with the soul. He further distinguishes

> between "sAstris" and "marma sparsis" - i.e. between

> those who follow the sAstra and those who

> focus on the inner meaning of the thirumantram.

>

> This attitude difference is apparent when we look

> at many things - even to this day, we have people

> who insist on the "superiority" of a brahmin

> birth (while svAmi piLLai lOkAchAriAr has clearly

> taught us otherwise), or who ascribe some

> sort of a superiority to being born in a

> srIvaishNava family. svAmi azhagiya maNavALap

> perumAL nAyanAr teaches us one thing - all these

> are related to your body and they are impermanent.

> Focus on things related to your soul!

 

Dear Sriman Varadhan,

 

Thank you for the educating posting. However, all the things like

taking birth in a brahmin family are not related to body. We have

made them related! For example, as we know, Perumal Himself says

varNa division is by karma and guna and NOT by birth. However, being

called brAhmaNas brings us some sort of pride (ahankaram mamakaram -

which are to be completely got rid of in our sampradAyam) in the

society, though people like me are not into Vaidika profession.

 

One advantage in taking birth in a SV family is we get some exposure

to Alwars, Ramanuja their preachings etc. Other than that no specific

advantage.

 

If we look into Bhagavata purANa, follwoing are His devotees:

 

1.PrahlAda 2.Bali 3. guha 4.AnjanEya 4.sugrIva 5.jAmbavAn

6.vibhIshaNa 7.rantidEva 8.ambarIsha 9. rukmAngada 10. draupadI

11.pAndavas 12. vidura 13.akrUra 14. bhIshma 15.Suka 16.satyavrata

17.dhruva 18.gajEndra 19.vyAsa 20. kuntI 21. gOpIs and several

others. more than 90% of them are not brAhmaNas even by profession!

 

While many people say "gObrAhmaNEbhayah Subhamastu nityam", we

say "adiyArgaL vAzha, aranganagar vAzha" at the end of our prayer.

Also we are not supposed to do abhivAdanam when we prostrate before

elders but are supposed to say "adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan" only.

Similarly we have to skip things like sandhyAvandanam when there is a

service in temple or when we have to serve a BhAgavata who has come

to our house.

 

We have to treat each other in paraspara naichyabhAvam and everyone

has to consider hiumself/herself as inferior to others.

 

One may question why one should skip sandhyA to attend temple service?

By going to temple, whatever service we do, like chanting prabandham,

or cleaning the temple, doing thirumanjanam for the images of

Perumal, all are BhAgavat kainkaryams ONLY. Bhagavan does not need a

single kainkaryam from us for He is avApta samasta kAman. By chanting

prabanadham, we are prserving it. Also people present will get

attracted by the ideas of Alwars. Also the people reciting are

serving each other by enjoying His qualities together (I sing nicely,

you enjoy it, I enjoy your singing nicely - that must be the spirit).

 

By doing thirumanjanam, the images are maitained well for a long

period and this will attract people by making them feel His presence.

Best example of Bhagavta kainkaryam is chAmarOpachAram during

purappAdu. Why should we do this fan service? Definitely not for Him

nor for His parivAra dEvatAs (Consorts, Alwars etc.) but only for the

comfort of His adiyAr bearing the pallanquin or some other vAhanam.

 

The only selfish motive behind going to temple can be getting some

mental peace. For that we can offer prayer to His picture or vigraham

or sAlagrAma moorti at our house itself. So by going to temple, we

are getting the additional privelege of being serviceable to others,

which is the real qualification of a SV.

 

>

> adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan,

> Vishnu

>

>

>

>

>

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SRIMATHE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA.

APPAN THIRUVADIGALE SARANAM.

 

Dear Baghavatas, Accept my pranam.

Sriman Varadan Swamy and Sriman Vishnu swamy have done appreciable service.

 

Sree vachana Bhooshanam and Acharya Hrudhayam are treasures to be known by all

Srivaishnavas. They contain THE REAL SPIRIT OF Srivaishanavism.. The caste

factor, Asrama( Brahmachari, Yethi et.c) knowledge, Anushtanas( observances of

karmas) of any body who does not have the correct knowledge on Emperuman ,his

relation to him and his relation with others are to be disregarded. The first

chapter (up to Sutras 86) of Acharya Hrudhayam deals with the greatness of

Namazhvar and the various aspects of high caste and low caste in correct sense.

 

The present day generation will not be able to understand it as it is. The

construction of the passages are compiled with relevant phrases from

Thiruvaimozhi(mainly) and other pramanas in a special style. The readers through

the guidance of able persons only can understand this. The translation of them

in English reflecting the spirit of sutras is also difficult affair. Many

quotations are to be furnished to the readers, as the passages are such without

which the purpose will be lost. If they are furnished it will become like a

textbook which will not be relished by all.

 

In spite of the difficulties Adiyen feel that all able persons should make

effort in this regard for the reasons mentioned below.

 

(1) The present day generation is not aware of the real Srivaishnavam

(2) To day almost all are materialists. They want to enjoy the life or in other

sense they care more for the body and are not interested in the real sense

about the soul(Atma)

(3) The temple worship is utilized for getting redress for their sufferances. Of

course in earlier days too such kind of persons was more; but there were people

in small numbers who cared for the soul.

(4) Other people are misguiding and misinterpreting Srivaishnavism.

(5) At least some body if not many, may take advantage of these informations and

get benefited.

 

(6) Postings on selected Sutra may be handled by able persons for the benefit of

Baghavatas..

 

(7) Adiyen’s prayer to Emperumanar and Emperuman is to bless me to do something

in this regard.

 

(8) Adiyen’s humble request that no body should get offended by this posting

 

 

Adiyen Ramanujadasan, T.Parthasarathy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 vsmvishnu wrote :

>ramanuja, Varadhan T A <tavaradhan> wrote:

> > srImathE rAmAnujAya namah

> >

> > dear bhAgavathAs,

> >

> > > Though the above distinction can sometimes be

> > obvious, it really is a key feature. In previous

> > sUtrAs, svAmi clearly talks about karma being

> > associated with the body and kainkaryam being

> > associated with the soul. He further distinguishes

> > between "sAstris" and "marma sparsis" - i.e. between

> > those who follow the sAstra and those who

> > focus on the inner meaning of the thirumantram.

> >

> > This attitude difference is apparent when we look

> > at many things - even to this day, we have people

> > who insist on the "superiority" of a brahmin

> > birth (while svAmi piLLai lOkAchAriAr has clearly

> > taught us otherwise), or who ascribe some

> > sort of a superiority to being born in a

> > srIvaishNava family. svAmi azhagiya maNavALap

> > perumAL nAyanAr teaches us one thing - all these

> > are related to your body and they are impermanent.

> > Focus on things related to your soul!

>

>Dear Sriman Varadhan,

>

>Thank you for the educating posting. However, all the things like

>taking birth in a brahmin family are not related to body. We have

>made them related! For example, as we know, Perumal Himself says

>varNa division is by karma and guna and NOT by birth. However, being

>called brAhmaNas brings us some sort of pride (ahankaram mamakaram -

>which are to be completely got rid of in our sampradAyam) in the

>society, though people like me are not into Vaidika profession.

>

>One advantage in taking birth in a SV family is we get some exposure

>to Alwars, Ramanuja their preachings etc. Other than that no specific

>advantage.

>

>If we look into Bhagavata purANa, follwoing are His devotees:

>

>1.PrahlAda 2.Bali 3. guha 4.AnjanEya 4.sugrIva 5.jAmbavAn

>6.vibhIshaNa 7.rantidEva 8.ambarIsha 9. rukmAngada 10. draupadI

>11.pAndavas 12. vidura 13.akrUra 14. bhIshma 15.Suka 16.satyavrata

>17.dhruva 18.gajEndra 19.vyAsa 20. kuntI 21. gOpIs and several

>others. more than 90% of them are not brAhmaNas even by profession!

>

>While many people say "gObrAhmaNEbhayah Subhamastu nityam", we

>say "adiyArgaL vAzha, aranganagar vAzha" at the end of our prayer.

>Also we are not supposed to do abhivAdanam when we prostrate before

>elders but are supposed to say "adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan" only.

>Similarly we have to skip things like sandhyAvandanam when there is a

>service in temple or when we have to serve a BhAgavata who has come

>to our house.

>

>We have to treat each other in paraspara naichyabhAvam and everyone

>has to consider hiumself/herself as inferior to others.

>

>One may question why one should skip sandhyA to attend temple service?

>By going to temple, whatever service we do, like chanting prabandham,

>or cleaning the temple, doing thirumanjanam for the images of

>Perumal, all are BhAgavat kainkaryams ONLY. Bhagavan does not need a

>single kainkaryam from us for He is avApta samasta kAman. By chanting

>prabanadham, we are prserving it. Also people present will get

>attracted by the ideas of Alwars. Also the people reciting are

>serving each other by enjoying His qualities together (I sing nicely,

>you enjoy it, I enjoy your singing nicely - that must be the spirit).

>

>By doing thirumanjanam, the images are maitained well for a long

>period and this will attract people by making them feel His presence.

>Best example of Bhagavta kainkaryam is chAmarOpachAram during

>purappAdu. Why should we do this fan service? Definitely not for Him

>nor for His parivAra dEvatAs (Consorts, Alwars etc.) but only for the

>comfort of His adiyAr bearing the pallanquin or some other vAhanam.

>

>The only selfish motive behind going to temple can be getting some

>mental peace. For that we can offer prayer to His picture or vigraham

>or sAlagrAma moorti at our house itself. So by going to temple, we

>are getting the additional privelege of being serviceable to others,

>which is the real qualification of a SV.

>

> >

> > adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan,

> > Vishnu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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