Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 sri: Article in the upcoming VEDIC Magazine, Based on Q&A Session in Chicago with Students ========================================== The truth about Varna (Occupation) and Jaati (Caste) ========================================== Question 1: What is Caste system? Does Vedic religion divide people based on birth? =================================================== Answer: Popular misconceptions say that the Vedic religion encourages division of human beings based on one's birth. As a result, some people have been kept backward and uneducated while others have abused this misconceptions and misinformation for personal gains. Much of this misconception can be attributed to the use of the words 'Varna' and 'Jaati' interchangeably. A closer analysis will reveal just how wrong these misconceptions are. Question 2: What is Varna? =================================================== Answer: Varna: The root word for Varna is 'Vri' which means one's occupation. The Varna system was hence originally based on division of labor. Those whose duties were to protect the men, animals and properties were called as 'Kshatriyas', the warriors. Those who had skills in teaching and scholarly thought, were 'Brahmins' and so on. The Varna system was solely based on the attitude and qualities of an individual and his/her propensity for performing certain duties. The source of these identified in the Srimad Bhagavad Gita as being the gunas, or inner qualities, that were the result of the karmas of each individual from previous lives. Those who had more of Sattva guna were Brahmins, Those who had Rajasic Guna were Kshtriyas and so on. Question 3: Is that just your opinion or there is any proof for this? =================================================== Answer: To quote from Lord Krishna’s words in Bhagawad Gita: (GeetaAcharyan) Chapter 4, Verse 13 of Srimad Bhagavad Gita catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah tasya kartaram api mam viddhy akartaram avyayam Here Lord says that according to the three modes of material nature and the work associated with them, He created the four divisions of human society. Question 4: Are there any examples of great "accepted Scholars" who were not born in brahmin families =================================================== Answer: We have instances from Puranas of many who were not born from Brahmin parents actually teaching Brahmins and others. Sri. Vedavyasa was the one who actually compiled 4 Vedas. He was not a Brahmin by birth. He is the compiler of the Vedas (Not the Author – Vedas are Not Authored by anyone) He is the compiler of Mahabharatha. Lord Krishna, was born a Vaishya and He gave us the Bhagawad Gita. Lord Rama was born a Kshatriya, and his life is the Ramayana. The caste of the person giving the message is is not important, but the Actual message is. At first, the people had more or less a right to choose over their varna based on their gunas and karmas. However, over time, fathers began to expect their sons to take over the duties of their specific calling. Due to the continual aspect of Son taking over father's duties in the society, the 'Work associated' became a matter of birth and in later days, became identified as a birth right. Swami Ramanuja (A Brahmin by birth) who is the foremost SriVaishanva Acharya had a Acharyas who were not Brahmins. He had many Sishyas (followers) who were not Brahmins. So in the SriVaishnava sampradaya, the issue of caste does not arise for Salvation. Love for Lord, intiation and salvation is for everyone. Question 5: And what is Caste (Jaati)? Answer: Jaati (Caste): The Root word for 'jati' is 'jan', which means Birth. It might have happened that due to a continual devolution of one's father's duty to his son over many years , the Varna became confused with 'jaati' and we know where are we now. Instead of having four divisions of labors, we now have several dozen jaatis, each competing with one another for special rights, and each blaming the other for the problems of society. So, even though two jaatis may actually belong to one varna, they may see each other as being two different castes. It is this which has led to the degradation of the varna system and a general disrespect for the Vedas. While it may not be possible to move completely away from the equating of varna and jaati, we must recognize that when our Poorvacharyas referred toVarna, they literally meant 2 things: 1. One's attitude (Sattvic, Rajasic and Tamasa Gunas) 2. The duties the individual held in the society. What is important to recognize that, in line with Vedic teachings, our poorvacharyas refused to acknowledge one varna as being greater than another, or one being lower than another. All people, irrespective of their varna are equal in their ability to do Good for this world, and in their ability to obtain salvation through surrender to the Lotus Feet of Sriman Narayana. In many of the Srivaishnava works such as Sri Vachana Bhushanam, it is clearly emphasized that a Srivaishnava , irrespective of race, caste, or gender should be revered and respected as 'Thirumal adiyar' (a devotee of the Lord of Lakshmi) Consequently, while we must respect and perform the the duties and obligations of our specific varna, we must not divide ourselves by jaati. We are all one family bound together by Sriman Narayana and His Unconditional Love for each and every one of us. Question 6: In recent years are there examples of Non-Brahmin born Scholars who inturn had Brahmin born students. (your previous example of Veda Vyasa is very very old, thousands of years ago) =================================================== Answer: Swami Satagopan (Nammazhwar) was Born in 4th Caste. He is the most important acharya who brought the teachings to all the SriVaishnavas. We have Azhwars (were born upto 600 AD) who are from all walks of life, gender, caste and community. In fact our Acharyas and MahaPurushas are so revered that even talking about their varna is is Taboo. In fact that is the attitude towards all Sri Vaishnavas, once a devotee has undergone Samashreyanam (Initiation to become a Sri Vishnava) even to talk about the devotee's Varna is not-accepted. In all Srivaishnava homes you will find prayers and utmost respect for Swami Nammazhwar. Question 7: Are there any examples in the last few hundred years? =================================================== Answer: Yes, there are many examples in SriVaishnava Acharyas, the most famous Sri Pillailokacharya lived in Srirangam throuhgout his life and was a strong believer, preacher & propogator in equality of various varnas in the eyes of God. One of his foremost disciples was a Harijan, called Vilancolaippillai, who became very learned and, in his turn, had many Brahmins as his disciples. In the eyes of the Lord all are same, and everyone has been give this blessed birth. This is an oppurtunity to fall in love with God, and realize our true purpose of life, irrespective of race, caste, or gender. In the Srivaishnava path this is seen in practice in daily life and in our teachings. =================================================== Further questions send mail to: ramanuja ======= End of Article (Vedic Mag Editor: Mohar Sagar) ================== azhwAr emperumAnAr JeeyAr thiruvadigalE sharanam adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Mukundan Vangkipuram Pattangi http://www.radioramanuja.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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