Gajendra Moksham Qs.

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Respected moderator,

 

My point is that it is impossible

for an elephant's leg to be gripped by a crocodile;

this is a zooological impossibility.Perhaps an expert

in this field can be consulted.

With dandan samarpanam

 

Devarajsa Dasan

 

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Sri:

Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

 

Dear Sri Devarajan,

 

Gajendra moksham is a "paradigm". A paradigm is a

pattern,model,an assumption or a concept to view the "reality". For

what? For the community that shares it especially in an intellectual

field. Why is it impossible zoologically? You can create such a

situation(esp in Florida which is full of Alligators!). Two days back

one guy lost half of his arm(he was attacked by the

alligator,alligators move very swiftly without creating any ripples

that you don't even notice them! But the poor alligator was shot by

another man,took the half-arm from its mouth and rushed the other guy

to the hospital so that doctors could attach the arm. It was late and

the alligator had twisted all the tissues when it attacked him. BTW

we are not their preys but still they know martial arts;they want to

defend themselves when someone is close to their territory!). SO,it's

verily zoologically possible. Moreover it's mentioned in Srimad

BhAgavatam too but that's upto one to take or leave it. One of my

friend is a member of wildlife and he was within 15 ft distance of a

tiger in a forest and he says there is always the risk and hence

fun.

 

In essence,"gajendra moksham" is to show the "extant" the

Lord goes for the one who has faith in Him. HE will do anything. He

is satyavAn but still may go back on His own words(He Himself was

ready to strike BhISmA with His discus for the sake of ArjunA but

finally He doesn't do).

 

AzhvAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar TiruvadigaLE saraNam

nappinnai

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Dear Sri Devarajan,

 

ramanuja, devaraj kandadai <dkandadai> wrote:

> Respected moderator,

> this is a zooological impossibility.Perhaps an expert

> in this field can be consulted.

> With dandan samarpanam

>

> Devarajsa Dasan

>

 

I am neither a pachyderm nor a croc expert. Nevertheless,

 

First of all, it is NOT a zoological impossibility.

 

Second, it is NOT prudent to use myopic science and our still smaller

understanding of it to question indefatigable truths.

 

Let us look at the Morphometrics of the two animals (with due

apologies to the other group members for dwelling onto needless

mathemagics)

 

Crocs have a jaw size of approx. 8 feet

Crocs jaws can maximally be apart upto 90 degrees.

This forms a triangle with an area of ***32 sq feet*** .

 

Max height of an Asian elephant is 4 metres (size hasnt changed much

evolutionarily)

 

The Circumference of the forefoot (which is larger than the leg) is

approx half the shoulder height. Which means it cannot be more than 2

meters.

 

2*pi*r = 2 metres

=> r = ***** 0.3183 metres ***** ----> (A)

 

Now, What is the radius of the circle that can be inscribed within a

triangle of area 32 sq feet?

 

rInsc = area/k ; k = (a+b+c)/2; a,b,c being sides of triangle

=> rInsc = 32/13.65 = 2.34 feet

 

rInsc = 2.34 feet = 2.34 * 0.3048 metres = 0.7132 metres ---> (B)

 

rInsc/r = 0.7132/0.3183 = 2.24

Which means the Croc can maximally grab MORE than TWO forefoot.

 

Regards

dasan

R.SoundarrAjan

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Dear BhAgavatas,

 

I don't think it is necessary to try to make such

analysis. Even zoologically it is agreed that animals

have evolved. So why talk about it from our time's

reference.

 

For example, it is said that Gajendra and the crocodile

fougt for 1000 years - this would also be an

impossibility from today's knowledge. Who knows what

changes that both animals as well as time itself have

undergone?

 

Instead, I think we should try to understand what the

message that this parable is teaching us (and

importantly inculcates in young minds as this story

is told to children).

 

adiyEn

TCA Venkatesan

 

--- devaraj kandadai <dkandadai wrote:

> Respected moderator,

>

> My point is that it is impossible

> for an elephant's leg to be gripped by a crocodile;

> this is a zooological impossibility.Perhaps an expert

> in this field can be consulted.

> With dandan samarpanam

>

> Devarajsa Dasan

>

> [Msg From moderator: Gajendra Moksham is accepted by the

> faithful

> for those who want to speculate, feel free to do so, No

> body is

> stopping you.

> Same applies to existance of God ]

>

>

>

 

 

 

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