Message 5 of Smt .Nappinnai: Questions

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SRIMATHE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA

APPAN THIRUVADIGALE SARANAM.

 

Dear Smt.Nappinnai Accept my pranam.

 

Adiyen am an undergraduate,(due to family circumstances had to earn than to

learn). Yet Emperuman is very kind enough to place me in a comfortable position

in life materially and spiritually. Adiyen am wondering as to why Emperuman is

so partial towards me when many of my kith and kin do not enjoy such a

position. He alone can explain.

 

Anyway, Adiyen am able to grasp the substances of your postings and offering my

comments.(on thoughts of Physics)

 

1. suitable examples. Moon

is not there when nobody looks at it. When a tree falls in the

forest,the noise is not heard/no noise if there is no observer. You

can keep on going like this. We have created the universe out of our

consciousness(otherwise there is no universe)! Einstein was opposing

this view till his last day. This crazy idea of Copenhagen

Interpretation(matter doesn't exists untill an observer looks at it)

 

# Perhaps, these people require direct personal observance(Pratyaksha

Pramana). This is not always possible and will not go to prove that the event

did not happen or exist. (False,defective conclusions)

 

Also, it is not correct to deny facts because you are not involved

 

2. Locality:

What this means is that no action on my part can affect what other

person sees. Quantum Theory is non-local and violates light barrier.

 

# Fantastic

 

3. He doesn't decide to prepare the pizza after i order. So even

before ordering,he must have the pizzas ready so that it can be

delivered in 10 mnts. This is an example for local-ness. QT says he

has telepathy(non-local,information travels faster than light)about

what I'm going to order before-hand and keeps the pizza ready. Nobody

will believe this

 

# Telepathy is not required for this. Only common sense and business acumen

will be sufficient. What kind of fantastic conclusions are being made!

 

 

4. Shankara's advaita suffers from fundamental logical flaw.

# Sankara’s Advaita that there is only one Brahman is agreed by Ramanuja also.

But, the way in which everything is explained varies. Sanakara had to invent

on ‘Avidhya”.

 

It should either be a different one from Brahman

Or it should be Brahman itself.

 

In both cases, Advaithic arguments are elusive and defective. They have been

very well proved by Ramanuja.

 

To accept it or not is any body’s free will.

Ramanuja has proved well by Sareera sareeri Bhava.

 

5. most of the westerners are brainwashed by the advaita theory. Lots of

germans do research in srivaishnavism. Most of the views of

Copenhagen interpretation reflects advaitic views.

 

# Unfortunate lot. Those who are doing research in Srivaishnavism will clear

this mess. Let us hope so.

 

6. There is an ideally isolated system which contains a Geiger counter

and placed near a radioactive source that emits gamma rays. the

intensity of the rays is adjusted in such a way that in an hour,there

is a 50% probability of the Counter to record one count. This counter

is connected to a device,which when countoccurs,willshattera flask of

deadly poison that would then fill the box where the cat is located.

there is a 50% probability that no count will occur leaving the box

intact. Experimenter seals the box and leaves the system undisturbed

for an hr and at the end of the hr,Schroedinger asks: "what is the

quantum mechanical state of the system just immediately before the

box is opened and observation is made?" Acc. to QT,cat is half dead

and half alive. It's only when the observer opens the box,does he

determine the fate of the cat!

 

# The conclusion should be either the cat has gone asleep or the mechanism has

failed mysteriously. By the way what is the cause that will set the devise in

motion and what is the basis it will work?

It is like the story of two mothers claiming the baby as theirs and ready to

take half of the baby evendead.

 

7. Determinism;

QT is non-deterministic,deals with statistical averages(randomness).

This uncertainty(Heisenberg and Bohr's complementarity principle is

related to uncertainty)does not lie in our ability to measure but in

Nature itself(nature is absurd!). Einstein sharply remarked that:"I

can't believe that God plays dice with the universe". He totally

disliked the fact that quantum theory implies that reality is

observer-created. His thought experiment(subtle many people

misunderstand incl his two collaborators)counter to Copenhagen

interpretation was: Certain elements of reality exist in the world

that are not described by the quantum formalism.

Einstein,Schroedinger,Dirac,Bell,Bohm were all opposing it staunchly.

Only time can answer.

 

# Let us hope so.

 

8. Copenhagen interpretation was closed for almost 4 decades,only in the

past decade,physicists started devising sensitive instruments(no

where near Einstein's subtle thought experiment)to either prove

Einstein's standpoint or refute Copenhagen interpretation. Another

important aspect of QT is there is no attribute attached to the

reality. Before I eat apple,apple would have had the attribute of

sweetness(irrespective of my eating or not). But QT negates it. It's

because of my eating(observer's knowledge)that apple has got the

attribute. So many fat books have been written on QT and one can go

on talking. But i wanted to post it to convey the message "the

limitation of science".

 

#QT appears to be fantastic. It is against realities; Perhaps by the influence

of Advaitha.

 

9.A quote from Einstein(more than a wonderful theoretical physicist,he

was a great human being,he was a free spirit,was easily approachable

by anyone without barriers

"A human being is part of the whole(universe);a part limited in time

and space. He experiences himself,his thoughts and feelings as

something separated from the rest- a kind of optical delusion of his

consciousness. This delusion is a kind of a prison for us,restricting

us to our personal desires and affection for a few person nearest us.

Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our

circle of compassion to "embrace" all living creatures and the whole

of nature in its beauty. Nobody is able to achieve this completely

but the striving for such achievement,is in itself, a part of the

liberation and a foundation for inner security"

 

# Hats off to Einstein! A wonderfulman.

 

10. Readers may wonder where I'm heading towards. But don't forget that

Einstein was a firm believer in God. Karma on one side and Lord's

grace on the other side!

 

# Smt.Nappinai madam, thanks for your educative posting.

 

Emperumanar had a kind heart and sound logic. He won over

his opponents and they became his disciples. Yet, the Advaitihic influence

still persists. It is up to the new order who do research in Srivaishnavism to

set things right.

 

Adiyen Ramanuja dasan, T.parthasarathy.