mannuyir kAl! engE manavala mAmunivan (part-2)

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Dear Smt.Smithra

Your posting was excellant , and this clearly shows ths "sarma upAya

nistai"- Acharya Abimanam , in this context of Amanumavan, I had a

doubt , I heard from Upanyasam that when you have the Peria Jeers

Thiruvadi on your head, you are sure of Moksham and in Viraja River,

the soul will not be touched by Amanumavan and will be guiided by

Lord Sriman Narayana Himself and the soul will not get the "sparisam"

of "amAnumavan" .

Can you pl clarify this for me.

 

Adiyen

Guna

 

ramanuja, sumithra varadarajan <sumivaradan> wrote:

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> Sri Parthasarathi thunai,

> Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

> Sri Vara Vara MunayE Namaha,

> Sri VanAchala mahA munayE Namaha.

>

> Dear Smt. Raji and all other bhagavatas,

>

> In this posting, let us see the essence of the paasuram given below

briefly and there by understand the charamOpAya nishtai of Sri

Erumbiappa.

>

> "mannuyir_kAL ingE maNavALa mAmunivan *

> ponnadiyAm senkamalappOthukaLai * - unnis

> siraththAlE theeNdil amAnavanum nammai *

> karaththAlE theeNdal kadan " (upadesa ratina mAlai-74)

>

> Meaning: Oh! The people of this world, if you place the divine

feet of Swamy manavala mAmunivan on your head here then we are sure

to be touched by the hands of amAnavan.

>

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Sri:

Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

 

Dear Smt Sumithra,

 

Humble pranams to you. Your postings are really great. I

was also thinking along the same lines as Sri Gunaseelan but was not

very sure. Please let me know what exactly it means.

 

AzhvAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar TiruvadigaLE saraNam

nappinnai

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Sri Parthasarathi thunai

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

Dear Sri Guna swamy,

Adiyen will try to answer this to my limited knowledge. Adiyen humbly requests

all learned bhagavats of this group to clarify this doubt in a better manner.

Emperuman surely comes infront of the prapannas while he breaths the last.

Swamy mAmunigal says, "kanaga giri mEl kariya mugil pOl vinadhai siruvan mEl

kondu thanuvidum pOdhum ErAr arangar ETHIRASARKA enpAl vAra munnirpar

magizhindhu". Here swamy says that Sri Ranganatha will come in front of him in

garuda vAhanam when his soul leaves his body. While asked, why should he come?

Swamy answers, "EthirAsarkA" So since adiyen has the sambhandam of Ramanuja

perumal is sure to come in front of me when my soul leaves this body and starts

its journey towards paramapadam. So that is true for each one of us who have

the ramanuja sambhandam (and according to ethiraja the sambhandam of his dasas

make him more happy. we all have the sambhandam of ethi punarAvathAram which

was cherished greater by lord ranganatha himself.)

So now that the soul has started its journey, Who goes along with him on the

way?

"thAladainthOr thangatku thAnE vazhithunaiyAm* kAlamEgaththai kadhiyAkki

meeluthalAm A-thamillA vinnulagil A-ga vennum mAranena*kEdhamulla thellAm kedum"

(Swamy manavala mAmunigal, ThiruvAimozhi nootrandhAdhi-91)

So again thirumOgoor Aththan bhagavan comes to show us the way.

Our acharyas say one example. One person came to a place and asked another

person nearby for the whereabouts of an address. The other person said that he

knew the address well and also the person Sri Rangarajan who he wanted visit and

accepted to drop him in that house himself. They both went to the address the

person who gave him lift went inside and returned back saying "Now come on tell

me what you want and who you are? Iam Rangarajan". The same person who gave

him the lift has turned out to be the person he wanted to visit also. Similarly

perumal is both the upayam and upEyam.

HE guides us through the path to the Srivaikundam. "soozhnindra mAl visumbhil

thollaivazhikAtta Azhindhadhanai muttru anubhaviththu*-vAzhindhangu

adiyavarudanE yirundha vAttrai yuraiseithAn*mudimagizh sEr jnana muni"

(thiruvaimozhi nootrandhAdhi-99). But alwar in this padhigam "soozh visum

panimughil" says all the welcome given to the soul all through the way and

mAmunigal also explains the archiradhi gadhi clearly as per the sastras in arthi

prabhandam. So though we enjoy the guidance of bhagavan along with us, still

the soul has to travel through the whole path common to all mukthAtmas as

sastram cannot become false (it is again bhagavan uvAcha which perumal himself

does not want to go against). But if we say due to sambhadam of mAmunigal we

will have amAnuvan sparsham it is not wrong since it comes to explain the

greatness of the acharya sambhandam. For acharya sambhandis, they would have

already got hte glory as perumal comes along with them, but the sparsham of

amanuvan would be just a formality like rama or krishna undergoing gurukula

vAsam with vishmAmitra or sandeepani.

This is adiyen's poor understanding. Adiyen begs the pardon of all the

bhagavatas for any mistakes and waits for your corrections.

Alwar emperumAnAr Jeeyer thiruvadigale sharanam

Adiyen Ramanuja dAsee

Sumithra Varadarajan

gunsee <gunav wrote:Dear Smt.Smithra

Your posting was excellant , and this clearly shows ths "sarma upAya

nistai"- Acharya Abimanam , in this context of Amanumavan, I had a

doubt , I heard from Upanyasam that when you have the Peria Jeers

Thiruvadi on your head, you are sure of Moksham and in Viraja River,

the soul will not be touched by Amanumavan and will be guiided by

Lord Sriman Narayana Himself and the soul will not get the "sparisam"

of "amAnumavan" .

Can you pl clarify this for me.

 

Adiyen

Guna

 

ramanuja, sumithra varadarajan <sumivaradan> wrote:

>

>

> Sri Parthasarathi thunai,

> Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

> Sri Vara Vara MunayE Namaha,

> Sri VanAchala mahA munayE Namaha.

>

> Dear Smt. Raji and all other bhagavatas,

>

> In this posting, let us see the essence of the paasuram given below

briefly and there by understand the charamOpAya nishtai of Sri

Erumbiappa.

>

> "mannuyir_kAL ingE maNavALa mAmunivan *

> ponnadiyAm senkamalappOthukaLai * - unnis

> siraththAlE theeNdil amAnavanum nammai *

> karaththAlE theeNdal kadan " (upadesa ratina mAlai-74)

>

> Meaning: Oh! The people of this world, if you place the divine

feet of Swamy manavala mAmunivan on your head here then we are sure

to be touched by the hands of amAnavan.

>

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