Guest guest Posted December 16, 2002 Report Share Posted December 16, 2002 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear BhAgavatAs, Humble pranams to all. "Of the months,I am the mArgashIrSha" says the Lord in BG 10.35. This is the precious month and this is the month our incomparable ANdAL composed her grand work TiruppAvai observing the fast/nOnbu for the union with the Lord. Unfortunately I never had the bhAgya to listen to upanyAsms by great SV AchAryAs on ANdAL's(and others' too!) works but TiruppAvai and vAraNamAyiram were the two prabandhams that I learnt first in my life. I would like saha bhAgavatAs to share their knowledge of listening to AchAryAs on "why ANdAL excels over others especially periyAzhvAr,parAnkusa nayaki and parakAla nayaki?" Something strikes my mind about ANdAL's greatness over others (10 azhvArs)and would like to share and also receive feedback too. NammAzhvAr says in TVM 1.7.8,that "Lord can not afford to leave me because I am a slave to Mother Nappinnai who is ever associated with and inseparable from Him(agalagillEn)". Because of this mediatrix role of thAyAr,NammAzhvAr is very sure of reaching the Lord's lotus feet. ANdAL is an amsa/incarnation of bhUmA devi. The ten AzhvArs (as per Upadesa Rathna MAlai)were nityasUris and sent by God Himself to correct and liberate jIvAtmAs. ThAyAr/Sri is above nityasuris in our RAmAnuja Darshanam. By this itself ANdAL is superior to all others. Although NammAzhvAr and ParakAlan imagined themselves as nayaki pining over the nAyaka/Lord,their's is an assumed role,something artificial. The love between man and woman is natural and has extra dimension that is lacking in that of man-man. That's how the Lord has created us. Hence ANdAL didn't have to put any effort to transform herself to nAyaki role and her love for Him is a spontaneous smooth flow as she got that swabhAva(to love)from Sri herself. ANdAL considered herself as the foremost gOpikA and gOpikA's love for KrShNa is spoken in volumes in Srimad BhAgavatham. Once RAdhA visited KrShNA's palace and He wasn't home and RukmiNi happily welcomed her with hospitality and paid her humble respects(as she was the devotee of her husband). RukmiNi,out of affection, gave hot milk to RAdhA and RAdhA without saying anything drank it. After chit-chatting for sometime RAdhA took leave of RukmiNi. Then our Lord enters and when RukmiNi was about to do pAda pUja for Him,noticed boils on His feet and questioned Him(how He got). KrShNa replied: "RAdhA keeps My lotus feet in her heart and worships Me. Since the milk you gave her was very hot,it burnt her heart and that's why I have got boils on My feet". RukmiNi says "RAdhA didn't say that it was hot". KrShNA replies that obviously she would not as she was a great devotee of Me and would not want to hurt anyone's feelings. This shows the greatness of gOpikA's love for the Lord. So,ANdAL excels over NammAzhvAr and ParakAlan's love for God. How is her love superior to PeriyAzhvAr's love(YashOdA's role)? Whenever Lord incarnates,He has to enter some garbha (eg:kausalya,devaki) and is born but Sri/thAyAr, being the Universal mother is unable to find a better mother than Herself,and thus incarnates Herself without undergoing that ordeal. Since ANdAL is an amsa of thAyAr(by swabhAva),her love is universal. She infact accrued fame to PeriAzhvAr by becoming his foster-daughter! Just like Janaka maharaja and Samudra rAja,PeriAzhvAr also got the fortune to become His father-in-law. Since she being the universal mother,knows very well of our shortcomings,knows the methodologies to correct her children/us in no time. She is a born teacher unlike others. She left the "great" and "ever-happy" nitya vibhUti and above all she left Him and came down to bhUlOka to redeem us. Who can surpass her love??? PS:I don't know if RAdhA-RukmiNi-KrShNa's incidence is mentioned in Srimad BhAgavatam as I'm still in the first canto itself. But I have heard about it(could be wrong also!) Whatever came to this little mind is just reflected here and seek pardon for unforseen and unintentional errors. "pAdakangaL thIrkkum paraman adi kAttum vEdam anaiththukkum viththAgum kOdaith thammizh ay ayndhum ayndhum aRiyAdha mAnidarai vaiyyam sumappadhum vambu" ANdAL TiruvadigaLE saraNam AzhvAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar TiruvadigaLE saraNam NC Nappinnai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 Dear Smt Nappinnai, I am attaching a recent post of mine to Bhakti-list dealing with the question of why Andal was considered greater than the Azhvars? It was based on extracts from several vyakhyanams to Thiruppavai by our pUrvAchAryas. Periyavaccan Pillai starts out in 3000padi by saying that Andal is far greater than other Azhvars. (Andal to Periyazhvar and Periyazhvar to other Azhvars is like mountain to atom in each case). Then he asks why? And follows up with the following reasons: 1. Azhvars saw Him after He woke them up; Andal woke Him up and explained her problem. 2. Just like Sri Lakshmana, right from her birth she was submerged in the bhagavat guNas 3. Unlike a man liking a man, it is natural for a woman to like a man. 4. Her bhakti to Him is greater than that of Azhvars. 2000padi starts with the same comparison as 3000padi. The reasons given are: 1. She is the only child of the 10 azhvars and received their knowledge as stree dhanam. 2. Azhvars got divine knowledge from Him while she went and gave divine knowledge to Him (that is, woke Him up and presented her case). 3. Andal (who is attached to Periyazhvar) is like Madhurakavi Azhvar, unlike other Azhvars who are like Sri Lakshmana, and Periyazhvar who is like Sri Bharatha. 4. Like Lakshmana, she was attached to Him right from birth. 4000padi presents the following reasons: 1. From her ten fathers (Azhvars), she received knowledge as stree dhanam. 2. Azhvars destroyed their natural bhAvam and took on a stree bhAvam while she had stree bhAvam naturally. She did not have to take on that bhAvam (anyApadesha). 3. She had greater qualities than Azhvars (He gave her His beauty and guNa), while the pirAttis gave her their svarUpa and svabhAva. Therefore, unlike her fathers (the Azhvars) her femininity was not made, but natural. 4. She too, however has a anyApadesha which is taking on the gOpika bhAvam. Their kulam is one that is close to Him, as in "kulam tharum" pasuram. Andal Thiruvadigale Sharanam Azhvar Emperumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan TCA Venkatesan Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Srimad Vara Vara Munaye nama: Dear Sri Venkatesan, Pranams to you. Thanks for posting Sri PVP's vyAkhyAnam. I would also like to know what Sri MaNavALa mAmunigaL has got to say about this(as per his own words in Upadesa Raththina MAlai). If you have his vyAkhyAnam,can you please post it? AzhvAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar TiruvadigaLE saraNam NC Nappinnai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 Dear Smt.Napinnai, Your piece on Andal is moving and inspiring. I have heard in discouses that there is no reference to Radha in Srimad Bhagavatam or any Purana.She also does not figure in Divya Prabandham or any Tamil classic. Radha is a character in various Hindi devotional works of medieval period. Nappinnai figures in both Divya Prabandham and Tamil classics, but not in Sanskrit. Sri Appayya Dikshitar[15th century] has stated that Nappinnai figures in Sri Vishnu Dharmam, but according to Sri Prativadi Bhayankaram Annangaracharya Swamy, the extant Sri Vishnu Dharmam text does not have reference to Nappinnai. It is possible that Radha and Nappinnai represent folk traditions of devotional Vaishnavism. Regards,TCAsrinivasaramanujan T. C. A Srinivasaramanujan Email: tcasr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2002 Report Share Posted December 24, 2002 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Smt Nappinnai, adiyEn's praNams. Unfortunately, I do not have the vyakhyanam for Upadesaratthinamalai. So, I will simply point out directly what Mamunigal has said about Andal and why she is thought of as greater than the Azhvars. The first point he raises is "emakkAgavanRO ingu ANdAL avathariththAL" - she came to this world for our sake. And what did she leave behind? "kunRAtha vAzhvAna vaikuntha vAn bOgam thannai igazhnthu" - she left that place where the joy never diminishes ("anthamil pErinbam"). The other azhvars did not have the same status as our thayar. They were jIvas like us (there is also the thought that they were amsams of nithyasUris), who were seeking to reach His lotus feet. In that process, they were showing us the path. Andal on the other hand was already at His lotus feet; so her supreme sacrifice (after all the upanishads say that no one returns here from Him "na ca punarAvartate") in leaving Him to walk amongst us and show us the path to reach Him, makes her greater than the Azhvars. She was born as "periyAzhvar peNpiLLai". She could have been born anywhere, to anyone; but she chose to be born as Periyazhvar's daughter. Periyazhvar's greatness is amazing. Who would think of singing mangalashasanam to Him for His protection? Perhaps the gOpikas with their unconditional love for Him come the closest. To be born as his daughter simply elevates her to unseen heights. The effect of being Periyazhvar's daughter is seen in the fact that her bhakti and love for Him came to her right from the time she was born. After all, she was born not in a lotus, but in a thulasi bed, the same thulasi which is extremely dear to Him. Mamunigal makes this point of her devotion starting at a young age by saying "pinjAy pazhuththALai". The other azhvars don't appear to have had this kind of devotion starting at such a young age. Mamunigal next says "ANdALukku (oppu) uNdAgil" - this means that she has none equal to her (and the implied is that none superior to her). Recall, Parasara Bhattar's famous point to Sri Ranganatha that He could not match thAyar's karuNa that She shows in Her eyes, even when He matches Her beauty in the nAcciyAr kOlam. Finaly, Mamunigal says "anjukudikkoru santhathiyAy" - she is the sole heir to the Azhvars (and perhaps even all Srivaishnavas) - the anjum kudi - the clan that is forever worried about His safety and well-being. Being their only heir means that she inherits all their wealth (which is their qualities, knowledge, devotion, love), as stree dhanam. Possessing their combined wealth makes her greater than them. To top it all, She is also the heir to the greatest amongst acharyas, Bhagavad Ramanuja. She became his younger sister ("perumbUdur mAmunikku pin AnAL") and as such inherits everything from him as well. Let me finish with this anecdote. Someone once asked Ramanuja to discourse on a pasuram of Thiruppavai. His answer was "One may find someone capable of speaking about even ThiruppallANdu, but one will not find such a person for Thiruppavai". So, the fact that she gave us Thiruppavai alone ("vEtham anaiththukkum viththAgum" - the seed for all the Vedas), is probably sufficient to prove her greatness. Azhvar Emperumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan TCA Venkatesan --- "vaidhehi_nc <nappinnai_nc" <nappinnai_nc wrote: > Sri: > Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: > Srimad Vara Vara Munaye nama: > > Dear Sri Venkatesan, > Pranams to you. Thanks for posting Sri PVP's > vyAkhyAnam. I > would also like to know what Sri MaNavALa mAmunigaL has > got to say > about this(as per his own words in Upadesa Raththina > MAlai). If you > have his vyAkhyAnam,can you please post it? > > AzhvAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar TiruvadigaLE saraNam > NC Nappinnai Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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