Fwd:Nappinnai: Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami's message

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--- Velukkudi Krishnan <velukkudi wrote:

> "Velukkudi Krishnan" <velukkudi

> "Nallan Chakravarthy Nappinnai" <nappinnai_nc

> RE: Nappinnai

> Wed, 9 Apr 2003 10:59:09 +0530

>

> Dear Smt Nappinnai,

> You have a valid doubt. There are several ways to explain this.

> 1. In the words of Sri Parasara Bhattar Bhoodevi and Nila devi are

> like the

> shadow and kinkaras of Sri Devi . Rangaraja stavam Purva 63

> lakshmIm...chAyAmiva and dEvi tvAmanu nIlayA saha...They are like

> flowers

> and chandan to Sridevi. So an attribute of Nila has to necessarily be

> in Sri

> Devi also. It is common to glorify one of the qualities in each

> personality.

> For example kindly refer to the III prakaranam of Acharya Hrdayam

> which you

> have. Alwar experiences Souhardam with Ranganatha, Vatsalyam with

> Venkatesa,

> Paresatvam with Polindu ninra piran and so on. That does not mean

> that

> Ranganatha does not have Paresatvam or vatsalyam. All the attributes

> are

> inseparable with every form. Importance is attached to some in every

> form.

> Bhattar in the vishnu sahasranama commentary says 'Krishnavatara

> quality is

> Asruta vatsalyam" The quality for Rama is sousIlyam. That does not

> mean

> other avataras do not have this quality. All the qualities are for

> Sri Devi

> and in fact Brahmam finally. They are distributed and glorified for

> easier

> understanding and anubhavam. Take your example of vyuha vasudeva -

> sankarshana - aniruddha - and pradyumna are said to have two

> qualities each

> of gnana bala iswaya virya sakti tejas. That does not mean the

> others do

> not possess the other qualities.

> 2. The kinkaras of Brahmam divide their duties. Sri Devi requests him

> to

> pardon the surrender's papas. BhUdevi a step above hides the papas

> from him.

> Nila devi excels as she is the one who took birth in a community in

> the

> lower strata - she does not know anything called papa.

> 3. All three are mentioned in the vedas and purvacharya sri sooktis.

> hrIsca

> tE lakmIsca patnyou ... ' there are two "ca" used here. One ca is

> enough to

> count Lakshmi and BhUdevi. The additional ca is for nIla dEvi. Swami

> MMunigal in Arti prabandham says vadivArum mAmalarAl valavarugum

> mattrai

> maNmagalum Aymagalum idavarugum iruppa naduvaga vIttrirukkum

> nAranan...It is

> interesting to note that nIla dEvi is always identified with ayar

> madamagal

> unlike Sri and BhUdevi. This is because - the daughter of kumbha (the

> brother of yasoda) was known as nIla only. Pramanam ..."nIlA nAmA ca

> kanya

> sA rUpa oudArya gunAnvitA..." nappinnai was a name coined by

> probably

> alwars. The name is only "pinnai". Nal is added to glorify as she was

> the

> only one who took birth amonst the down trodden. Alwars have used

> "pinnai"

> in many places .. pinnai manAlA.. thOli sEr pinnai poruttu.

> 4. Sri Ramayanam - valmiki gives examples for the greatness of

> Dasarathas

> three wives. bala kanda - tasya bhAryAsu tisrushu hrI srI

> kIrtyupamAsu ca..

> hrI for patience and so bhUdevi, srI for wealth and so SridEvi, kIrti

> for

> glory and so nIla dEvi.

> 5. nIlO varNa: asti asyA: iti nIla - the definition shows that her

> name is

> derived from Her colour. In caraka samhitA nIla is very important as

> a

> medicinal plant . This may be indigo plant.

> 6. It is popularly known that krishna to marry nappinnai tamed 7

> vrshabha.

> Bhagavan to enjoy an atman , catches hold of two horns, papa and

> punya, and

> breaks them. The seven vrshbhas are garbha janma balya youvana jara

> marana

> naraka. He kills/ tames these seven and gets releases the atman from

> the

> clutches of this samsara to be in eternal bliss with Him. Pramanam :

> tiruviruttam taniyan vyAkyanam .. karuvirutta kuzhi nIttapin.

>

> There are many more to add. I would write to you later when time

> permits.

> I always prefer to keep the mails private since I am unable to follow

> links

> in the groups. I may not be able to reply for weeks which would spoil

> the

> decorum of the group. Regards.

>

>

> Nallan Chakravarthy Nappinnai [nappinnai_nc]

> Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:21 PM

> Velukkudi Krishnan

> Re: Nappinnai

>

>

> Sri:

> Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

> Dear Sri Velukkudi Krishnan swami,

> Salutations to you. It is my bhAgyam to receive a reply

> from you despite your busy schedule. Thanks very much for the

> explanation. Still I didn't not catch one point. You said nILAdevi is

> the one who keeps PerumAL under control thro' her bhOgam. SO what

> about Sriramavatharam? Was not perumAL in control? Why this is

> applied only in krshnavatharam? Is it due to the vyUha vAsudeva?

> I will be indebted to you if you can clarify this point. All I have

> with me is the plain text of NDP,sundara kANdam,nitya anusandhAnam,

> AH,SVB, mumukshuppadi,thathvatraya(with SS Iyengar's translation),

> BG(van buitenan's translation of Emperumanar's gita bhAShyam).

> Lot of bhAgavthAs had doubts about this name and sent me mails too.

> With your permission,if you don't mind,I will forward your reply to

> ramanuja group. Once again my kOti namaskArangaL and mangaLAshAsanams

> to you and your family.

>

> AzhvAr EmperumAnAr JIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam

> kUraththAzvAn thiruvadigaLE sharaNam

> NC Nappinnai

 

 

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abhayam sarvabhUthEbhyO dhadhAmyEthath vratham mama || VR.VI.18.32

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aham thvA sarvapApEbhyO mOkshaiShyAmi mA suca: || BG.18.66

 

 

 

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