Guest guest Posted April 17, 2003 Report Share Posted April 17, 2003 Dear fellow prapannas, for those of you who are still fascinated by caste issues, there is a short Upanishad dedicated to the matter which makes interesting reading. In order not to overload the forum I shall serialise it in three episodes. For those of you who would like the Sanskrit text please contact me and I shall send it in the PDF format. Adiyen Sri Rama Vajra-sucika Upanishad (of the Sama Veda) The Doctrine of the Diamond Needle I shall teach the Vajrasuci ‹ the diamond needle doctrine which destroys ignorance, condemns those who are devoid of the knowledge (of Brahman) and exalts those endowed with enlightenment. The Brahmin the Kshatriya, the Vaishya and the Sudra are the four classes (castes). That the Brahmin is the chief among these classes is in accord with the Vedic texts and is affirmed by the Smrtis. In this connection there is a point worthy of investigation. Who is, verily, a Brahmin? Is he the individual soul? Is he the body? Is he the class based on birth ? Is he the [possessor of] knowledge ? Is he the [performer of] deeds (previous, present or prospective) ? Is he the performer of the rites ? Of these, is the Jiva or the individual soul the Brahmin? No, it is not so; for the Jiva is one and the same in the innumerable previous and future bodies. Since the Jiva (the individual soul) is the same in all the various bodies obtained through (past) karma, and in all these bodies the form of the Jiva is one and the same. Therefore the Jiva is not the Brahmin. ‹ to be continued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2003 Report Share Posted April 17, 2003 Srimathe RAmanujaya Namaha There is a website that gives the explanation of this upanishad: http://www.gosai.com/chaitanya/saranagati/html/vedic- upanisads/vajrasucika-upanisad.html To my knowledge this upanishad was never considered as the one that talks about the varnashrama. Vedic Scriptures are categorised into two: a) Vedas that deal with the religion and rituals i.e Karma Kandam - that deals with the varnashrama dharamam etc b) Veda-antham i.e the upanishads that discuss ONLY about the ultimate reality. If this scripture is categorized under the 108 Upanishads(apart from the first 10 that are used as references in the Shri Bhashyam/Brahmasutra Vyakyanams), then it means that this scripture does not talk about the varnashrama dharmam, but talks about the nature of the BRAHMAM and hence this scripture has to be RIGHTLY interpreted from that perspective! While shruthi is subject to umpteen interpretations, it would be more appropriate if the interpretations of our purvacharyas are considered and referred to. Learned scholars kindly correct me. Yatheendra Pravanam Vandhe RAMYA Jamataram Munim Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan, Lakshmi Narasimhan ramanuja, excogitator@b... wrote: > Dear fellow prapannas, > > for those of you who are still fascinated by caste issues, there is a short > Upanishad dedicated to the matter which makes interesting reading. In order > not to overload the forum I shall serialise it in three episodes. For those > of you who would like the Sanskrit text please contact me and I shall send > it in the PDF format. > > Adiyen > > Sri Rama > > Vajra-sucika Upanishad (of the Sama Veda) > > The Doctrine of the Diamond Needle > > I shall teach the Vajrasuci ‹ the diamond needle doctrine which destroys > ignorance, condemns those who are devoid of the knowledge (of Brahman) and > exalts those endowed with enlightenment. > > The Brahmin the Kshatriya, the Vaishya and the Sudra are the four classes > (castes). That the Brahmin is the chief among these classes is in accord > with the Vedic texts and is affirmed by the Smrtis. > > In this connection there is a point worthy of investigation. Who is, verily, > a Brahmin? Is he the individual soul? Is he the body? Is he the class based > on birth ? Is he the [possessor of] knowledge ? Is he the [performer of] > deeds (previous, present or prospective) ? Is he the performer of the rites > ? > > Of these, is the Jiva or the individual soul the Brahmin? No, it is not so; > for the Jiva is one and the same in the innumerable previous and future > bodies. Since the Jiva (the individual soul) is the same in all the various > bodies obtained through (past) karma, and in all these bodies the form of > the Jiva is one and the same. Therefore the Jiva is not the Brahmin. ‹ to be > continued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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