Guest guest Posted April 15, 2003 Report Share Posted April 15, 2003 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama: Dear BhAgavatas, There was a recent query in this list about a work called Lokacharya Stuti in praise of Sri Pillai Lokacharyar and if it might have been authored by Sri Vedanta Desikar. There is a work called Lokacharya Panchasat that is in praise of Sri Pillai Lokacharya, but it's authorship is disputed. BSS Swami in one of his books has mentioned that it is indeed authored by Desikar and this became a source of debate in the Srirangasri group a short while ago. As adiyEn participated in that discussion I will paraphrase the notes I had posted on this topic. It was claimed in Srirangasri that this work was not authored by Desikar and that such a claim was being made by vested interests because of the fact that the "seeronRu ..." thaniyan in praise of Desikar was written by Pillai Lokacharyar. I advised the group that the authorship of the thaniyan is not accepted by Thennacharya scholars and any demand that is made for evidence of the authorship of Lokacharya Panchasat is applicable to this thaniyan as well. As evidence for the thaniyan authorship, Sri Parthasarathi Dileepan presented a post from the Vadakalai Guruparampara book - published by Lifco in 1969(?). When I pointed out that Thennacharya scholars mention that this book has been modified over the years and as such is not accepted by them, I was told that I was making a vested claim (even though I was only pointing out what was being said by scholars). Sri PBA Swami mentions in one of his articles that it was around 1925 that the claim of the thaniyan's authorship originated. Also, in the book quoted, it is said that the thaniyan was written by Pillai Lokacharyar after hearing the meanings of Rahasyas from Desikar, according to the third Brahmatantra Jeeyar. Based on the age difference between Pillai Lokacharyar and Desikar (at least 60+), adiyEn finds this difficult to believe. By the time Desikar was writing his major works, Pillai Lokacharyar had long published his works and was a very elderly acharya in Srirangam. Besides Desikar's presence in Srirangam at the same time as Pillai Lokacharyar's, is also heavily disputed. Apart from this, Sri Dileepan also claimed that all Vadakalai scholars were of the same opinion about the authorship of the thaniyan as well as the non-authorship of the Panchasat. His point was also that not all Thennacharya scholars agree on the authorship by Desikar of the Panchasat work. Shortly after the discussion ended in Srirangasri, adiyEn came up in an old article some interesting notes. I tried posting them on Srirangasri (not as final evidence, but as additional data to the discussion), but was denied by the moderator. I am attaching them to this post. I will leave this post as just that: some data in the discussion. I do not have all the data to make up my mind one way or the other about the Lokacharya Panchasat, although I remain convinced that the seeronRu thaniyan was not composed by Pillai Lokacharyar. Azhvar Emperumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan -- Note sent to Srirangasri that was not approved: At the time of ending this topic, we had left it that Vadakalai vidwans were likely unanimous in the opinion that Lokacharya PanchAsat was not authored by Sri Vedanta Desikar and also that "seeronRu" thaniyan was written by Sri Pillai Lokacharyar. AdiyEn recently came across a Srivaishnava publication from yester-years with the following data. In 1969 (22 Sept 1969) a book titled "Srimad Vedanta Desikan Vaibhavam - per DvidIya Brahmatantra Swami" was published by "Chennai Asmad Desika Sampradaya Nirvaha Sabha". I will not go into all the details of the book, but present some of the notes critical to the issue of Lokacharya PanchAsat. The foreword to the book states that it is based on the Desika Vaibhavam written in Telugu and published through Sri Parakala Mutt in 1907. That work was based on the maNipravALa text by the DvidIya Brahmatantra Jeeyar, which itself was based on the Sanskrit shloka work by the first Brahmatantra Jeeyar. The information in the book was also supposedly verified with some additional works from the Oriental Library (obtained through the efforts of Srimad Paramapari Andavan Swami). The book was proof-read by Sri Melattur Vyakarana Siromani Srinivasa Gopala Desikacharyar Swami, and was also blessed by Navaneedam Swami. The key points (para-phrased) from this book are: "As Sri Vedanta Desika was approaching Srirangam, at Thirupper, he heard about the Muslim invasion of Srirangam and that Sri Pillai Lokacharyar, Sri Azhagiya Manavala Perumal Nayanar and Sruthaprakasika Bhattar had left along with Namperumal. Therefore, with great sadness, he stopped his journey to Srirangam and moving to different places and eventually reached Satyamangalam." .... "After the Islamic forces were defeated and Srirangam was freed, Sri Desikar came to Srirangam. While there, to lessen the sadness of not having met Sri Sruthaprakasika Bhattar and Sri Pillai Lokacharyar in person, he wrote Sri Sudarshanacharya Vimsathi and Sri Lokacharya Panchasat." Also, presented in the magazine was the data that in 1904 at Bangalore Thulasi Garden, a Stotravali was published by a Vadakalai vidwan named Thuppul Venkatacharyar, in which he presents the Lokacharya Panchasat along with the "Sriman VenkatanAthArya: ..." thaniyan. There were no further details about this book. If it is a fact that Sri Desikar did not meet Sri Pillai Lokacharyar, then one does have to doubt whether Sri Lokacharyar wrote the "seeronRu" thaniyan (please note that this takes nothing away from what is said in the thaniyan; no matter who the author is, the words ring true). And the book apparently clearly mentions that the Lokacharya PanachAsat was authored by Sri Desikar. I request the scholars in this forum to take this information and let us know if they have heard about/seen this book and what the opinions of the vidwans are on it. It would be interesting if we can actually get a copy of the book for further study, as several points in it appear to be different from many of the popular versions of Sri Desikar Vaibhavam. adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan TCA Venkatesan The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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