Guest guest Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Sri Krishnaya Namah! Nandaka is the sword of Srimannarayana. This was revealed in the story of Tallapaka Annamacharya, who is actually this sword that the Lord sent to mother earth to be born as this great poet, spreading bhakti among us. Is there any incident where Lord used this Nandaka. Also, I have not heard / seen Lord as sporting this sword among other weapons - Sundarshana(disc) & Koumudaki(mace). Talking of Sudarshana chakra, as and when I look at a beautiful image of Lord Srimannarayana (Seshashayi) sporting Sudarshana with His consort Sri Mahalakshmi, besides Padmagarbha(Lord Brahma), I left questioning myself that, is this Sudarshana - a kaalachakra. As we all know, this is a glowing, thousand edged disc which is most potent enough to destroy all the evils in the world and it is said that when He releases Sudarshana, time stops. When Sudarshana is released, nothing moves except itself. May be bhagavathas, seeing its splendour and grandeur, are moved within themselves, but the jeeva (be it asura or anything) on whom it is directed, and the rest froze. Sudarshana also exhibits tremendous power (when it is directed towards Mandara parvatha for cutting it before placing it on the sea), expands itself to whatever size required (during Jayadratha's episode, in Mahabharatha, it expands itself to oversize Sun), emits light (syamprakasha) whenver required. Sudarshana is ferocious, as if to reflect the mind of the Lord and practically implement His intention. The case in point is, during Shishupala episode, after slitting his throat, Sudarshana, as if to show its urgency to reach Him, settles on Lord Krishna's finger hurriedly injuring His fingers. It is said that none except Draupadi moves quickly and tearing a portion of her saree, she does a bandage around His fingers. This very act, saved her when she suffered at the hands of Dushyasana and the Lord gave her plentyfull of clothes in return. Lord, more often than not, uses Sudarshana, whenever he is in urgency - some instances are During Gajendramoksha. For killing a crocodile and saving Gajendra, Lord could have used Nandaka or Koumudaki also. During Bhishma Parva, when incited by the injuries inflicted by Bhishma, he takes off Sudarshana. Likewise, Lord uses Sudarshana more often by impulse, and I would like to know whether He used Koumudaki anytime. Also, talking of Koumudaki, Lord holds this in His right hand except in some archa murthys like Sri Chennakesavasa Swamy, who seems to be holding this in His left hand, while the right hand is busy gracing bhagavathas, while Lord Venkateshwara, as in Tirupathi, does not sport this mace as His left hand is busy adjusting the jewellary while the right hand, rightfully so, showing the bhagavathas, His divyapadams. Some may voice their opinion on this gesture (incidentally the only gesture where bhagavathas are directed towards His divyapadam), but this shows that, He being Supreme God Head, His divyapadam is the paramapadam for jeevas. Among various namas of Lord, I would like to know about His nama - Vajapeyi, on whose name a yaga too is performed. While He has sahasranama as per Bhishma and sahasrabahu (as per Arjuna in BG - sahasrabahu baja vishnu murthe), as sahasrakoti yugadhari (as per Lord Brahma), it only shows that His namas vibhutis are uncountable. When Brahma says sahasra koti yuga dharine namah! it implies that it is uncountable. Likewise, the namas can be taken by us for recitals and japas, but can we really limit these to some numbers. It is not possible. Sarvaaparadha Kshamasva! Sukumar Sri Krishna Parabrahmane Namah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 Radhe Krishna, The gada was used by the lord during the fight with Hiranyaksha.He also uses it in the garbha of Uttara to protect Parikshit. It is a news to me that left hand of Venkatanata is used to adjust the jewellary.I have heard from saints that since the right hand shows sharanagati to His feet ,the left one shows that for the one who has surrendered ,the samsara sea is upto the knee which can be easily crossed.The meaning implied is that I accept those who surrender to me.I think these meanings of the hasta mudra are more appropriate. das On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 sukumar wrote : >Sri Krishnaya Namah! > >Nandaka is the sword of Srimannarayana. This was revealed in the >story of >Tallapaka Annamacharya, who is actually this sword that the Lord >sent to >mother earth to be born as this great poet, spreading bhakti >among us. > >Is there any incident where Lord used this Nandaka. Also, I have >not heard >/ seen Lord as sporting this sword among other weapons - >Sundarshana(disc) >& Koumudaki(mace). > >Talking of Sudarshana chakra, as and when I look at a beautiful >image of >Lord Srimannarayana (Seshashayi) sporting Sudarshana with His >consort Sri >Mahalakshmi, besides Padmagarbha(Lord Brahma), I left questioning >myself >that, is this Sudarshana - a kaalachakra. As we all know, this >is a >glowing, thousand edged disc which is most potent enough to >destroy all the >evils in the world and it is said that when He releases >Sudarshana, time >stops. When Sudarshana is released, nothing moves except >itself. May be >bhagavathas, seeing its splendour and grandeur, are moved >within >themselves, but the jeeva (be it asura or anything) on whom it is >directed, >and the rest froze. Sudarshana also exhibits tremendous power >(when it is >directed towards Mandara parvatha for cutting it before placing >it on the >sea), expands itself to whatever size required (during >Jayadratha's >episode, in Mahabharatha, it expands itself to oversize Sun), >emits light >(syamprakasha) whenver required. Sudarshana is ferocious, as if >to >reflect the mind of the Lord and practically implement His >intention. The >case in point is, during Shishupala episode, after slitting his >throat, >Sudarshana, as if to show its urgency to reach Him, settles on >Lord >Krishna's finger hurriedly injuring His fingers. It is said that >none >except Draupadi moves quickly and tearing a portion of her saree, >she does >a bandage around His fingers. This very act, saved her when she >suffered >at the hands of Dushyasana and the Lord gave her plentyfull of >clothes in >return. > >Lord, more often than not, uses Sudarshana, whenever he is in >urgency - >some instances are >During Gajendramoksha. For killing a crocodile and saving >Gajendra, Lord >could have used Nandaka or Koumudaki also. >During Bhishma Parva, when incited by the injuries inflicted by >Bhishma, he >takes off Sudarshana. Likewise, Lord uses Sudarshana more often >by >impulse, and I would like to know whether He used Koumudaki >anytime. > >Also, talking of Koumudaki, Lord holds this in His right hand >except in >some archa murthys like Sri Chennakesavasa Swamy, who seems to be >holding >this in His left hand, while the right hand is busy gracing >bhagavathas, >while Lord Venkateshwara, as in Tirupathi, does not sport this >mace as His >left hand is busy adjusting the jewellary while the right hand, >rightfully >so, showing the bhagavathas, His divyapadams. Some may voice >their opinion >on this gesture (incidentally the only gesture where bhagavathas >are >directed towards His divyapadam), but this shows that, He being >Supreme God >Head, His divyapadam is the paramapadam for jeevas. > >Among various namas of Lord, I would like to know about His nama >- >Vajapeyi, on whose name a yaga too is performed. While He has >sahasranama >as per Bhishma and sahasrabahu (as per Arjuna in BG - sahasrabahu >baja >vishnu murthe), as sahasrakoti yugadhari (as per Lord Brahma), >it only >shows that His namas vibhutis are uncountable. When Brahma says >sahasra >koti yuga dharine namah! it implies that it is uncountable. >Likewise, the >namas can be taken by us for recitals and japas, but can we >really limit >these to some numbers. It is not possible. > >Sarvaaparadha Kshamasva! > > >Sukumar > > >Sri Krishna Parabrahmane Namah! > > > > >------------------------ Sponsor > > >Srirangasri- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > _ Get email that means BUSINESS! me @ mycompany.com. Just Rs.1499/year. To start, click http://www.rediffmailpro.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 The left hand is NOT "adjusting the jewellary"....It is interpreted by our poorvAchAryAs as saying , "if you take my refuge, the samsAra sAgaram will only be knee deep for you... " ! Also, talking of Koumudaki, Lord holds this in His right hand except in some archa murthys like Sri Chennakesavasa Swamy, who seems to be holding this in His left hand, while the right hand is busy gracing bhagavathas, while Lord Venkateshwara, as in Tirupathi, does not sport this mace as His left hand is busy adjusting the jewellary while the right hand, rightfully so, showing the bhagavathas, His divyapadams. Some may voice their opinion on this gesture (incidentally the only gesture where bhagavathas are directed towards His divyapadam), but this shows that, He being Supreme God Head, His divyapadam is the paramapadam for jeevas. Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 Sri Krishnaya Namah! Definitely, this is more appropriate. I apologise. Sukumar Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah! Vasan Sriranga Chari [sMTP:vasan_chari_hk] 04/06/2003 4:29 PM sukumar Cc: ; bhakti-list; ramanuja; sbalaji; kvsr5; harinichari; nhema23; tiruchari; rupa_chari; swaagatham; cheenu6; raghavan_vj Re: Koumudaki & Nandaka Radhe Krishna, The gada was used by the lord during the fight with Hiranyaksha.He also uses it in the garbha of Uttara to protect Parikshit. It is a news to me that left hand of Venkatanata is used to adjust the jewellary.I have heard from saints that since the right hand shows sharanagati to His feet ,the left one shows that for the one who has surrendered ,the samsara sea is upto the knee which can be easily crossed.The meaning implied is that I accept those who surrender to me.I think these meanings of the hasta mudra are more appropriate. das On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 sukumar wrote : >Sri Krishnaya Namah! > >Nandaka is the sword of Srimannarayana. This was revealed in the >story of >Tallapaka Annamacharya, who is actually this sword that the Lord >sent to >mother earth to be born as this great poet, spreading bhakti >among us. > >Is there any incident where Lord used this Nandaka. Also, I have >not heard >/ seen Lord as sporting this sword among other weapons - >Sundarshana(disc) >& Koumudaki(mace). > >Talking of Sudarshana chakra, as and when I look at a beautiful >image of >Lord Srimannarayana (Seshashayi) sporting Sudarshana with His >consort Sri >Mahalakshmi, besides Padmagarbha(Lord Brahma), I left questioning >myself >that, is this Sudarshana - a kaalachakra. As we all know, this >is a >glowing, thousand edged disc which is most potent enough to >destroy all the >evils in the world and it is said that when He releases >Sudarshana, time >stops. When Sudarshana is released, nothing moves except >itself. May be >bhagavathas, seeing its splendour and grandeur, are moved >within >themselves, but the jeeva (be it asura or anything) on whom it is >directed, >and the rest froze. Sudarshana also exhibits tremendous power >(when it is >directed towards Mandara parvatha for cutting it before placing >it on the >sea), expands itself to whatever size required (during >Jayadratha's >episode, in Mahabharatha, it expands itself to oversize Sun), >emits light >(syamprakasha) whenver required. Sudarshana is ferocious, as if >to >reflect the mind of the Lord and practically implement His >intention. The >case in point is, during Shishupala episode, after slitting his >throat, >Sudarshana, as if to show its urgency to reach Him, settles on >Lord >Krishna's finger hurriedly injuring His fingers. It is said that >none >except Draupadi moves quickly and tearing a portion of her saree, >she does >a bandage around His fingers. This very act, saved her when she >suffered >at the hands of Dushyasana and the Lord gave her plentyfull of >clothes in >return. > >Lord, more often than not, uses Sudarshana, whenever he is in >urgency - >some instances are >During Gajendramoksha. For killing a crocodile and saving >Gajendra, Lord >could have used Nandaka or Koumudaki also. >During Bhishma Parva, when incited by the injuries inflicted by >Bhishma, he >takes off Sudarshana. Likewise, Lord uses Sudarshana more often >by >impulse, and I would like to know whether He used Koumudaki >anytime. > >Also, talking of Koumudaki, Lord holds this in His right hand >except in >some archa murthys like Sri Chennakesavasa Swamy, who seems to be >holding >this in His left hand, while the right hand is busy gracing >bhagavathas, >while Lord Venkateshwara, as in Tirupathi, does not sport this >mace as His >left hand is busy adjusting the jewellary while the right hand, >rightfully >so, showing the bhagavathas, His divyapadams. Some may voice >their opinion >on this gesture (incidentally the only gesture where bhagavathas >are >directed towards His divyapadam), but this shows that, He being >Supreme God >Head, His divyapadam is the paramapadam for jeevas. > >Among various namas of Lord, I would like to know about His nama >- >Vajapeyi, on whose name a yaga too is performed. While He has >sahasranama >as per Bhishma and sahasrabahu (as per Arjuna in BG - sahasrabahu >baja >vishnu murthe), as sahasrakoti yugadhari (as per Lord Brahma), >it only >shows that His namas vibhutis are uncountable. When Brahma says >sahasra >koti yuga dharine namah! it implies that it is uncountable. >Likewise, the >namas can be taken by us for recitals and japas, but can we >really limit >these to some numbers. It is not possible. > >Sarvaaparadha Kshamasva! > > >Sukumar > > >Sri Krishna Parabrahmane Namah! > > > > >------------------------ Sponsor > > >Srirangasri- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > _ Get email that means BUSINESS! me @ mycompany.com. Just Rs.1499/year. To start, click http://www.rediffmailpro.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Sriman Sukumar, I have heard that in SriKrShNAvathAra,the Lord used the four weapons namely shankha(conch),cakra(discus),gadha(maze) and nandhaki(sword) with the exception of sArnga(bow) which was used in SriRAmAvathAra. The Lord SriVenkatakrishnan(Presiding Deity) of Sri Parthasarathy Temple,Madras, sports nandhaki. If you want to experience the KrShNa of SriKrShNAvathAra/MahAbhAratha,you should definitely see ONLY this Lord! No other KrShNa in this world can match this KrShNa(that's my view!). Vraja nadhi is the divider between nithya vibhUthi (srivaikuNTa) and lIla vibhUthi(our materialworld including Brahma's world). Those who are caught in the flood of vraja(samsAra sAgaram) and those who have taken "sole" refuge at His lotus feet(Lord SrinivAsa with His left hand in that posture called kaTi hastha),the flood is only knee deep and hence can cross the river and reach the other side,the shore of mADhava(srivaikuNTa)! Otherwise we will be thrown back to this side(material world). AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam NC Nappinnai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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