Cloning and soul.

September 29, 2004

Dear Devotees,

I was just browsing the net to understand the concept of Cloning

and how a soul enters the cloned body.I came across this article:

"It is an interesting question then how many souls are there in a

multicellular animal's body, which is built of billions of cells?

According to the Vedic point of view there is a soul in each cell of

the body, but these are on a quite low level of consciousness. Above

these bodily cells ("living bricks") one soul exercises power who is

on a higher lever in the process of reincarnation. This only soul,

having a higher consciousness, uses the plant, animal or human body

which is built of millions of cell-size bodies. This soul exercises

power above the other cells, also having individual souls. According

to the Vedic literature the body dies when this controlling soul (with

his subtle covering) leaves this gross body and moves to another body.

After the exit of the controlling soul the co-ordination stops amongst

the bodily cells, the body 'dies', or it remains without control."

Source: http://science.krishna.org/Articles/2001/12/002.html

Can learned members explain more on this issue with evidences from

Sruti/Smruti/Puranas? (especially related to the number of Souls in a

body). What is the time the soul enters the body of child and how?

When the mother is pregnant already or earlier, or at childbirth?

If its been discussed already please let me know the where to search

for those articles.

Dasan,

Ramanujam

September 30, 2004

SrI:

Dear SrI.Ramanujam,

The following are purely based on my understanding by having attended

a few kAlakshepams and svAdhyAyam.

As it is easy for a learner to comprehend, we can take the lowkIka

subject "science" which has concluded that our body is supporting

plenty of living beings in and out.

There are many pamANams for this in the eternal vEdAs (as we hear

from elders, although I've not done vEdAdhyayanam). That's why our

viSishtAdvaita siddhAntam clearly says that jeevans are countless and

the cycle of creation-sustenance-destruction is also infinite (no

Adhyantam) irrespective of whatever number of jeevans get salvation

yugam-by-yugam.

It is said that a jeevan, after enjoying a good life (or servitute to

other dEvAs) in svarga lOkam is kicked out from there and reaches the

atmosphere of our bhUlOkam head downwards. It enters the water in the

cloud and comes down to earth. It enters the crops/plantations and

then the grains. The male human being (or animal) consuming the

grains gives place for the jeevan(s). Then the jeevan is either

transferred to the female being(garbham) as part of the process of

creation or is discarded out and has to undergo this process

again..... all by the sankalpam of the Lord. (ref: 'VaiNavam - Or

uraiyADal' by SrI.U.vE VN Gopala dEsikAchAr)

Similar thing happens to all jeevans (whether from hell or heaven)

until it does an upayam to reach His lotus feet.

So, the jeevan is there while the gharbam starts.

Although there are many simplified books available, aDiyEn advises

you to undergo a traditional study under a sadAchAryan of our

sampradAyam.

dAsan

Mukundan

October 2, 2004

Yes swamin. This is an etrnal cyle. So the SUM TOTAL of ATMAN is same in the

universe.

Now let us take the enlightened sould, who have done sranagathi in real, and are

up above as nitya suri's to the lord.

These atman never coms backto earth.

By this way the population of the earth has to decrease. But it is increasing.

Why?

Can the learned men of this group explain this rationally for the welfare of us

all.

Aparadaan kshmasva.

Dasan/raghavan

Mukundan <mukrupa wrote: