The Soul .. The Soul .. The Soul.. => Halk Baked Soul Vs Full Baked Soul ????

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Shri:

 

Shri Kaarimaaran thunai

 

 

 

Dear Bhagavathaas

 

 

 

Pranaams.

 

Adiyaen is posing a question to find out the solutions from Our

 

Vaishnavaa philosophy.

 

Please apologise me if these words are written to hurt any individuals/groups

 

feelings. !!! It was not intended for that purpose.

 

This is my long streching(stressing) un-answerable question. ???

 

As per bhagavad gita and our Kaari-maara-piraan , we indulge in

 

the services of the lord, Worship Nothing but him ,Thinking of him

 

always,singing the thiuvaaimozhi to reach Parama-padam(or Moksham)

 

one day. Very Good !!! ... Nice....

 

Supporting Quotes:

 

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Aluvan-Thozhuvan-Aadi-Kaan-pan Paadi-alarruvan.....

 

Naadeer Naal Naalthorum...vaadaa Malar Kondu.......

 

Thaal-kal Thalaiyil vanangi Naal kadalai kazhiminaey !!!

 

- Kaari Maaran

 

But this is for a IDEAL CASE.

 

In most circumstances 50 % of people die pre-maturely in one way or the

 

other way before they reach old age. such as a natural disaster due to

 

Mother Nature , Accidents, Violence, un-caused violence ,uncaused

 

death ,disease, suicides (due to wealth,health,passion or any other

 

reasons ) etc. What is the status of these souls ?

 

Will they get re-birth ? or They still attain moksham.

 

 

 

Our Vishnu-chittar wrote :

 

Yeippu Yennai Vanthu-Naliyum-pothu

 

Aangethu Naan-Unnai Ninaikka Mattaen..

 

Appo-thaikku- Ippo-they Solli Vaithaen

 

Arangath-aravanai-Palli-Yaanae!!

 

we get moksham because we sing the above verse before

 

our sudden death.

 

Is this the way it works. ?

 

Or

 

 

 

(Because) We Once sang/heared vishnu sahasranaamam fully through

 

our ears..... That itself will do the needed Moksham. Ehi...eeehi ...eehi... !!!

 

Kannan Kalal-inai Nannum Manam-udaiyeer

 

Yennum thirunaamam thinnam Naara-na-mey !!!

 

=> Thereby points to Sahasranaamam.

 

- Kaarimaaran

 

Konjam -adjust panni... (paarthu -pottu -kudunga... like ordinary people

 

speak in Market & grocery Store. )

 

-> will we get moksham like this way ??

 

 

 

I saw cases where they perform rituals as per hindu saastra , after a man dies

 

in Raameswaram, Kaasi , Gangai etc.. thinking that the soul will reach moksham..

 

by paying to Brahmin-Priest over there. Thereby overriding/ignoring the

 

Karma-Vinai-Payan.

 

Karma-vinai(deeds) can not be overridden, even for Kaliyan (Thiru-mangai-mannan

)

 

(Almighty blessed soul - Mayarvara mathinalam...), who got killed... to get

 

moksham.. and not achieved a smooth salvation like Vishnu-chittar(Peri-Aazhwar)

 

Reason is obvious : Our Almighty wanted to follow the rules(legislation)

 

as per Vedas. (Isho-Upanishad thunders this point. about the fate of these

 

soul-killers. ! )

 

What is the case of abortion doing women due to circumstances (any reason ,

 

in one way or the other way - they are also Soul - Killers !!! ) ?. Are they set

 

to go to hell ? especially in India with 102+ crores of people. it looks

 

fine to me to do abortion in the cause of saving the Mother earth (or Nature)

!!!

 

there by saving the agricultural output such as grains , food , space,

 

green mother nature, live-stocks, any other carni,herbi,omnivorous

 

beings(or animals) providing more space for earth's nature !!!

 

Why i am telling all these obnoxious stories ?

 

I used to watch television occasionally (without involving by senses..) ..,

 

the channels like TLC , OLN,Discovery (TCL -> Learning Channel

 

OLN -> ... Life Network.. [may be ] , ) !!!

 

They use to show a ghost simulation/feeling/experience. this is like a serial

 

shown ... non-stop .. every week !!! crossed more than 100's of devil episodes

 

covering in devils of north america alone.

 

Some of the stories are very horrific as they screen like hearing from

 

a live-witness !!! (not like our india where every pulia maram

 

(Tamarind tree) is considered a Devil !!! and lot of devil stories

 

spin around that Tree !!!

 

[ Tamarind tree is the most Holy-tree , as it sheltered kaari-maaran ,

 

therfore most worshippable like Tulasi plant ! ]

 

Cause of all these stories lies in a flash-back & obvious !

 

(there was a murder / accidental cause of death of one or more people !!! ).

 

(IMPACT) RESULT >>>> The so-called soul is wandering around that place. !!!

 

One Interesting story is Hawaaii Island's volcanic remains. (of lava stones )

 

U.S postal service in Hawaai gets hundreds of these stones in (baskets)

 

asking(requesting) them to place these stones back in Lava spilled mountains.

!!!

 

This is due to the attractions of these LAVA stones and visitors from all over

the

 

world wanted to take a slice to their home (like devotees visiting Thirumala

 

will definitely get Laddu on their way return !!!) and they observed a horrific

 

life , resulting in the loss of their family persons life,jobs, house etc

etcc......

 

and they concluded that it is due to the LAVA STONEs !!! . ( which volcano

 

once buried a young women !!! and the continous bad,unwanted happenings are

 

due to the curse of that buried woman towards those who takes

 

these LAVA stones !!! )

 

These stories imply that souls are living even after the death of a

 

body(life) !! and not taking a another life. Our bhagavad gita (or almighty)

 

does not speak of im-matured(pre-matured) souls !! in other words ,

 

these souls are not liberated souls !! although they are subtle in nature,

 

(Anur-bhrugat...krisas-sthoo-lo .. sahasranaamam)

 

Onrum Unara-laagaathu Unarn-thum Melum-Kaan-pathu-arithu

 

- Kaari maaran !

 

 

 

How our almighty will consider the souls that get perished/died but of

 

good nature. for example one of our bhagavathaas die in a bus,car,

 

train accident (say like sep 11,2001). Are they set to live like a devil ?...,

 

until the end of their life time and wait for almighty's approval to step

 

into parama-padam ?? and thereafter they experience the

 

sool-visum pani-mukil... Is it the way it works ????

 

How our almighty will consider the souls living in this mundane

 

world where bad-karmaas are un-avoidable. everyone living in this

 

earth is involved in a sin knowingly and un-knowingly !!

 

although they are shri-vaishnavaas with saatvic nature ???

 

Most importantly Please clarify your views on devils(Ghosts)

 

as per our siddaantham !!! Are they real ? if they are real ,

 

how they have the strength of lifting a object as per T.V ?

 

whereas the soul is subtlest of subtlest(like Atom - Anu) as

 

per our lord, kaarimaaran and the nature of soul itself !

 

Please explain with reference to our sampradaayam

 

Vaasaga thosam santhavyaha

 

 

 

Adiyaen

 

Kaari-maara-piraan daasan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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