Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Dear Shir SundaraRajan swAmi, I dont know how these things can be accepted without proper premise. Will these stories add value to our guruparamparA? I have visited thirukkuRungudi several times and also the shrine of sri kaliyan in the field. I have never heard of such stories that you mention. rAmAnuja dAsan vanamamalai padmanabhan - bsundarrajansrivilliputtur ramanuja Wednesday, October 27, 2004 6:57 AM [ramanuja] Kaliyan 's last day of life in Thirukurungudi & hisSalvation !!! Shri : Shri Kaari-Maaran Thunai Dear Shri TCA Swaamin Adiyaen's Pranaams. You are like a Giant Star in this -group forum !!! I am privileged to provide with my little (subtle) knowledge of what i learnt from my late Father (who in turn learnt from a Strong Army of our Bhagavathaas living in Srivilliputtur). I dont have any hand-written proof to base my argument about Kaliyan. Kaliyan got killed in Thirukurungudi (precisely in Vayal-kaadu) In my home we used to have a writings (Yedu in Palm Leaf - Panai Olai ) in Krantham Language. My Great grand father read this grantham to my father. and my father orally told to my elder brther & i overheard some of the stories. Unlike other Azhwars , Kaliyan's life is very Dynamic & Turbulant role and it was full of Braveness, courage & Ananya-Bhakthi. Even if you notice all the Azhwars , Kaliyan is the only Murattu Azhwar Having a Vael in his Hand ( for his bravery ) Half of the story is ........... Story goes like this ============== In one of robbery sites - Kaliyan was near to the Treasure (Por- Kalanjiyam) there used to be non-stopping Chakra which kaliyan dont know how to stop. he has been given a Hint that Vazhai maram could stop that Chakra. Kaliyan used lot of Vaazhai maram to stop that chakra.. Kaliyan cross the last hurdle to that treasure. while they pack off the jewels(all other ornaments).... Kaliyan's Associate was caught in trap (like Pori). The Robbery Gang was unable to get the Trapped kaliyan's Associate out of pori. In order to ensure that Kaliyan & his associates dont get caught after robbery & escape safely with wealth Kaliyan killed one of his associates (robber) by cutting his head off & packed his head with him. (like Ali-baba story ) !! The Associate can (may) be one of Thola-Vazhakkan, Thaaal- ooothuvaan, Nizhal-pin-selvaan, Neer-mel-nadappaan. The associate man , whose head was cut , he instantly took a birth and started growing like a vazhai maram. (again at almighty's wish to fulfill the rules of Isho Upanishad !!!) Kaliyan was spending his last years of life in thirukurungudi ....... , In thiru-kurun-gudi-Vayal-kaadu , he (That Resurgent Man)blocked the Kaliyan at his old age and said i am going to cut off your head. Kaliyan have no energy to fight. but to agree.He prayed for almighty to have a last darshan from Thirukurungudi perumaal, almighty agreed and after darshan was over , Kaliyan's Head was cut off by that man. [ This implies that one can see temple or tower from Vayal Kaadu. I am assuming this sentence as i have no clue about these places !!! ] This story, i heard from my father. and who in turn through either Yedu / through word of mouth told us. If any of the other bhagavathaas can shed a full-story on this topic, then it will be Great !!! But whatever i said ..is... from my consiousness i still have in my mind ( through my father) and NOT a cooked-up-story !!! Adiyaen - Kaari-maara-piraap Daasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 sri: Kaliyan 's last day of life in Thirukurungudi & hisSalvation!!! ======================================================= "This is based on what i have heard from my father, i am not aware of any works that talk about this I am hoping others in the list will have some information or works which deal with this topic" ======================================================= Dear Shri Vaana-maa-malai Padmanabhan Swamin Adiyaen's Pranaams(Dhanyoshmin). When i write mails to yourself(ungalukku) my mind hums 8.10.X (Nedumaarku.... Urumo-paaviyenukku.... , Vaaikka Thamiyerku.....) When i took this human-birth , my mind is flushed ( Paaramaaya palavinai.. thiruPaanalwar) by almighty. Adiyaen told what i heard from my father. there is no exaggeration. i am NOT a story writer. I am not a pride seeker. I dont need any thing more than His Blessing. However i wanted to tell yourself(ungalukku) that until Year 1996 , in srivilliputtur andal temple, .. there is a set of bhagavathas usually 60+ Years of age sit in front of Aravanai Bell and chat. The topic varies from Thiru- kurugur to Badrinath. they would have told this episode to my father and our father told in turn to us. This Chatting is regular practice going on for 100's of years of chatting before temple. Please understand that chatting like this is very common in Srivilliputtur Andal Temple and accepted in VEDAS. This is Called Bhagavad-smaranai. They form the VERY foundation of Ananya-bhakthi,Breed desire to seek more & more knowledge,cultivation of Shrivaishnavaa Philosophy,sharing of knowledge(like we do now in this -GROUP). Wow !!! I sat with them one day 10 years back. !!! What a Beautiful conversation !!!. All melodious,heart pleasing words using tamil. Sadly... due to the current political trend... !! it may have vanished by now. Adiyaen is going to India next week. so i will enquire about kaliyan in deep. !!! But please understand that for kaliyan's arrogant character in terms of robbery , he deserves a death sentence. [and almighty has been directly watching Kaliyan , all along his life] Did you know this : - Divyadesam - Thiru-Ninra-voor (Near Ambattur,Madras) According to my father , kaliyan did not enter this temple. kaliyan was passing-by. Thiruninravoor-perumaal asked( or say requested ) Kaliyan to sing him. Kaliyan wrote 10 paasurams without entering temple. that is how we see that Divya-desam. My father told stories like this at several points of his lifetime to me and my elder brother. Adiyaen always... Enga-appa Daasan... for his Ananya-Bhakthi. if you(rself) are not accepting this .. its fine. It is almighty's wish to speak through me in this -group. Adiyane Kaari-maaran Daasan !!! -> Aaye , - Iv-vulagil - Nir-panavum , thirivana-vum Neeye !!! ................. Kooyae Kol Adiyaenai Kodu-vulagam Kaa-tey-lay !!! ( Ref 4.9.X - Beautiful 10 passuram's ) > what i learnt from my late Father (who in turn > learnt from a Strong Army of our Bhagavathaas living in > Srivilliputtur). > > I dont have any hand-written proof to base my argument about > Kaliyan. > > Kaliyan got killed in Thirukurungudi (precisely in Vayal-kaadu) > > In my home we used to have a writings (Yedu in Palm Leaf - Panai > Olai ) > in Krantham Language. My Great grand father read this grantham to > my father. and my father orally told to my elder brther & i > overheard some of the stories. > > Unlike other Azhwars , Kaliyan's life is very Dynamic & > Turbulant role and it was full of Braveness, courage & > Ananya-Bhakthi. > > Even if you notice all the Azhwars , Kaliyan is the only Murattu > Azhwar > Having a Vael in his Hand ( for his bravery ) > > Half of the story is ........... > > Story goes like this > ============== > > In one of robbery sites - Kaliyan was near to the Treasure (Por- > Kalanjiyam) > there used to be non-stopping Chakra which kaliyan dont know > how to stop. he has been given a Hint that Vazhai maram could stop > that Chakra. Kaliyan used lot of Vaazhai maram to stop that > chakra.. > Kaliyan cross the last hurdle to that treasure. while they pack > off the > jewels(all other ornaments).... Kaliyan's Associate was caught in > trap (like Pori). The Robbery Gang was unable to get the > Trapped kaliyan's Associate out of pori. In order to ensure that > Kaliyan & his associates dont get caught after robbery > & escape safely with wealth Kaliyan killed one of his associates > (robber) by > cutting his head off & packed his head with him. (like Ali- baba > story ) !! > The Associate can (may) be one of Thola-Vazhakkan, Thaaal- > ooothuvaan, > Nizhal-pin-selvaan, Neer-mel-nadappaan. > > The associate man , whose head was cut , he instantly took a birth > and started growing like a vazhai maram. (again at almighty's > wish to > fulfill the rules of Isho Upanishad !!!) > > Kaliyan was spending his last years of life in > thirukurungudi ....... , > > In thiru-kurun-gudi-Vayal-kaadu , he (That Resurgent Man)blocked > the Kaliyan at his old age and said i am going to cut off your head. > Kaliyan have no energy to fight. but to agree.He prayed for > almighty to have a last darshan from Thirukurungudi perumaal, > almighty agreed and after darshan was over , Kaliyan's Head > was cut off by that man. [ This implies that one can see temple > or tower > from Vayal Kaadu. I am assuming this sentence as i have no clue > about these > places !!! ] > > This story, i heard from my father. and who in turn through either > Yedu / through > word of mouth told us. > > If any of the other bhagavathaas can shed a full-story on this > topic, then it will be Great !!! > > But whatever i said ..is... from my consiousness i still have in my > mind ( through my father) and NOT a cooked-up-story !!! > > Adiyaen > > - Kaari-maara-piraap Daasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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