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Srimate Ramanujaya Nama:

 

Dear Ms.Nappinnai

 

Thank you for pointing out my post. I

was going to correct it. When a person is haunted, it

happens because of a weak mind and weak will and

impure condition.Hence his soul exists in the same

body in the same heart, in addition to the haunting

soul, but the activities of his mind and senses and

even consciousness are overpowered and hence such

persons keep alternating their identity.

It is just like, if the owner of a

house is weak and there is a strong tenant or for that

matter a thug who takes control of the house,for all

practical purposes the owner retains the title, but,

the tenant or the thug can nevertheless act as

powerfully as a owner enjoying the real owner's

property and subduing his powers.

 

Also, there are countless living beings and hence as

many souls like bacteria, amoeba etc in a single human

body, but the possessor nevertheless remains owner of

the body by way of his consciousness, just like, even

in the house we live, there can be many living beings

such as insects(cockroaches), animals(pets) etc, but

we are the owner of the house.

 

These are only my understanding. I welcome any

comments or pramanas for/against it.

 

Krishna Dasee

Vedavalli Ranganathan

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Dear Bhagwathas,

 

I am participating in this group, to

improve my bhakthi and knowledge by discussing with

one another about our mighty Lord.By discussing about

ghosts , as i said it is inauspicious,and it takes us

away from the topics of God. Hence i am not going to

send any more posts about ghosts.

 

Krishna Dasee,

 

Vedavalli

 

>

> Srimate Ramanujaya Nama:

>

> Dear Ms.Nappinnai

>

> Thank you for pointing out my post. I

> was going to correct it. When a person is haunted,

> it

> happens because of a weak mind and weak will and

> impure condition.Hence his soul exists in the same

> body in the same heart, in addition to the haunting

> soul, but the activities of his mind and senses and

> even consciousness are overpowered and hence such

> persons keep alternating their identity.

> It is just like, if the owner of a

> house is weak and there is a strong tenant or for

> that

> matter a thug who takes control of the house,for all

> practical purposes the owner retains the title, but,

> the tenant or the thug can nevertheless act as

> powerfully as a owner enjoying the real owner's

> property and subduing his powers.

>

> Also, there are countless living beings and hence as

> many souls like bacteria, amoeba etc in a single

> human

> body, but the possessor nevertheless remains owner

> of

> the body by way of his consciousness, just like,

> even

> in the house we live, there can be many living

> beings

> such as insects(cockroaches), animals(pets) etc, but

> we are the owner of the house.

>

> These are only my understanding. I welcome any

> comments or pramanas for/against it.

>

> Krishna Dasee

> Vedavalli Ranganathan

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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SRIMATHE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA.

 

The following is based on adiyaL's limited knowledge of texts to

produce pramanas in this context.

 

(1) There are no twin souls in a single body as per texts. According

to Brahma sutras such a condition comes to exist just for 2 months in

a man's body ( who is the act of generation) when the soul which is

in the process of being born remains in the man's yoni which is the

4th oblation as per panchagni vidhya. As a continuation of this

process, it enters the woman's yoni to take a body. Thus another soul

exists in a woman's body only for the sake of getting a body and

birth.

 

(2)In 1-16 of Acharya hridhayam, we come across references to 4 types

of bodies (deham) and 4 gathis. Taking cue from this, it is

understood that there are only 4 kinds of deham, deva, manushya,

dhiryak (can any one please explain what this is) and sthavara.

 

(3) I wish to combine the 4 gathis in this context as that gives an

idea about the nature of beings in different bodies. It is said that

those having a mix of punya and paapa are born in garbha-agathi

(womb). Those who are to experience the effects of paapa alone are

born in Yaamya gathi. Those who are to experience the effects of

punya alone are born in Dhoomaathi-gathi. Those who are entitled to

attain paramapadam go by Archirathi-gathi.

 

(4)Going by this, the existence of paishasha or ghosts is possible

and they are (probably) the ones attaining yaamya gathi.

 

(5)There is no basis to assume that the 'haunted' ones have indeed

been occupied by other souls or ghosts. Science has better

explanations for this state - which once again prove that other souls

do not enter the so-called haunted ones.

 

(6) The 'taamasa janaa:' as mentioned in chapters 9 and 17 of BG are

persons with taamasic gunas and not 'ghosts' which are supposed to

have subtle bodies.

 

 

-jayasree saranathan.

 

ramanuja, vedavalli ranganathan

<vedaranga> wrote:

>

> Srimate Ramanujaya Nama:

>

> Dear Ms.Nappinnai

>

> Thank you for pointing out my post. I

> was going to correct it. When a person is haunted, it

> happens because of a weak mind and weak will and

> impure condition.Hence his soul exists in the same

> body in the same heart, in addition to the haunting

> soul, but the activities of his mind and senses and

> even consciousness are overpowered and hence such

> persons keep alternating their identity.

> It is just like, if the owner of a

> house is weak and there is a strong tenant or for that

> matter a thug who takes control of the house,for all

> practical purposes the owner retains the title, but,

> the tenant or the thug can nevertheless act as

> powerfully as a owner enjoying the real owner's

> property and subduing his powers.

>

> Also, there are countless living beings and hence as

> many souls like bacteria, amoeba etc in a single human

> body, but the possessor nevertheless remains owner of

> the body by way of his consciousness, just like, even

> in the house we live, there can be many living beings

> such as insects(cockroaches), animals(pets) etc, but

> we are the owner of the house.

>

> These are only my understanding. I welcome any

> comments or pramanas for/against it.

>

> Krishna Dasee

> Vedavalli Ranganathan

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Sri:

Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

Dear Smt Vedavalli,

Humble praNAms to you. Without using virus and bacteria,we

can use God Himself as a weapon. Since this entire world constitutes

His body and He is the antaryAmi of every jIvAtmA, we can safely say

there exist many souls(infact infinite) in one single body. Very

interesting the topic of ghosts/accidents...Well, surely I would

like to know about these things from SV perspective(if it addresses

these issues).

 

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam

dAsAnu dAsI

NC Nappinnai

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