Guest guest Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 Respected Bhakthas, I had a question regarding samaashrayanam. My wife and I have got the oppurtunity now to get samaashrayanam(pancha samskaaram) done by our Acharya. But my wife is pregnant now. I wanted to know if there are any restrictions on pregnant women getting samaashrayanam done. Thanks. -- Regards, Nagaraj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Sriman Nagaraj, Humble praNAms to you. It's great to hear about your samAShrayaNam. As far as I know(which I cross checked with my Great AcAryA Sri Chinna Jeeyar),it shouldn't be a problem except that women should not get it done during their monthly cycles nor should they perform any thiru ArAdhanam on those days. samAShrayaNam is nothing to do with marriage also nor with husband! This is between the jIvAtmA, AcAryA and the God! I was of this opinion but then couple of devotees raised doubts in me before I had mine, so I specifically asked my AcAryA. My AcAryA told me that the only criterion for a woman is that she should have attained her womanhood before samAShrayaNam is being done. In the olden days, females used to get married even before their cycles started and hence they had their samAShrayaNam after marriage and esp., after they attained the age. If there were conditions for pregnant women, my AcAryA would have told me! To be on the safe isde, I will ask my AcAryA and let you know. Basically samAShrayaNam means sam(through)+ AShrayaNam(refuge/sharaNAgati). We're doing this sharaNAgati through an AcAryA(as AcAryA is the doorstep to the Lord). One can easily get husband,wife etc but one has to be blessed(not by his/her self-efforts but by His grace) to get an AcAryA from Ramanuja Sampradaya. May be you should ask your AcAryA himself before undergoing samAShrayaNam. All true AcAryAs will not mind a person asking any genuine question/ doubt and they will transfer the right knowledge only! Any errors are subject to correction. AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam dAsAnu dAsI NC Nappinnai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear devotees, One small correction to my previous post on the same. I used a wrong word "criterion" for samAshrayaNam. Basically, there is no restriction(at atma level) other than the interest itself! But it would be better if one undergoes the same after realizing "I'm not the body". When I don't even know the difference between the body and the AtmA(when I'm young), how do I understand thirumanthram? I know a friend who had his samAshrayaNam when he was 5 or 6 and he goes behind some other tradition now! To put swamiji's words exactly, HH said, it is nothing to do with marriage. That's all. Sri Chinna Jeeyar swamiji said if there is birth/death, then there is a 15 day pollution period and 4 day for women. On these days one doesn't get it done nor one performs any kaimkaryam. In the olden days the scenario was different. Women were taken care of by the father/brother until the marriage and then husband. But who takes cares of the father/brother/husband? It is srIman nArAyaNA ONLY! This is the meaning for the three knots in mAngalyam also. The third is eternally valid. The first two can be negated and is not strictly valid(unlike the third one)in current conditions. So one should know the exact meaning behind samAshrayaNam. tvamEva mAtA ca pitA tvamEva, tvamEva bandhus ca gurus tvamEva | tvamEva vidyA draviNam tvamEva, tvamEva sarvam mama dEvadEva || AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsI NC Nappinnai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Srimathe Ramunajaya Nama: Adiyen has got a doubt regarding SamaashrayaNam. If SamaashrayaNam is done, one should not eat the food cooked outside or which contains Onions. But these days working People it is difficult to cook by themselves. To the extent possible if we can follow certain principles, can we get it done. Of course only if perumals grace should be there. jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam Balaji V N vaidhehi_nc <nappinnai_nc wrote: Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Sriman Nagaraj, Humble praNAms to you. It's great to hear about your samAShrayaNam. As far as I know(which I cross checked with my Great AcAryA Sri Chinna Jeeyar),it shouldn't be a problem except that women should not get it done during their monthly cycles nor should they perform any thiru ArAdhanam on those days. samAShrayaNam is nothing to do with marriage also nor with husband! This is between the jIvAtmA, AcAryA and the God! I was of this opinion but then couple of devotees raised doubts in me before I had mine, so I specifically asked my AcAryA. My AcAryA told me that the only criterion for a woman is that she should have attained her womanhood before samAShrayaNam is being done. In the olden days, females used to get married even before their cycles started and hence they had their samAShrayaNam after marriage and esp., after they attained the age. If there were conditions for pregnant women, my AcAryA would have told me! To be on the safe isde, I will ask my AcAryA and let you know. Basically samAShrayaNam means sam(through)+ AShrayaNam(refuge/sharaNAgati). We're doing this sharaNAgati through an AcAryA(as AcAryA is the doorstep to the Lord). One can easily get husband,wife etc but one has to be blessed(not by his/her self-efforts but by His grace) to get an AcAryA from Ramanuja Sampradaya. May be you should ask your AcAryA himself before undergoing samAShrayaNam. All true AcAryAs will not mind a person asking any genuine question/ doubt and they will transfer the right knowledge only! Any errors are subject to correction. AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam dAsAnu dAsI NC Nappinnai azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam ramanuja/ ramanuja Meet the all-new My – Try it today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Dear Sriman Balaji, In srivaishnava families, one is NOT supposed to eat onions even before samASrayaNam right from birth. We are nowadays making a lot of compromises. These compromises should not come in the way of our religion as we tend to be the best at heart. adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Vishnu BALAJI IYENGAR <balajivn2000 wrote: Srimathe Ramunajaya Nama: Adiyen has got a doubt regarding SamaashrayaNam. If SamaashrayaNam is done, one should not eat the food cooked outside or which contains Onions. But these days working People it is difficult to cook by themselves. To the extent possible if we can follow certain principles, can we get it done. Of course only if perumals grace should be there. jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam Balaji V N Meet the all-new My – Try it today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Sriman Balaji, I would say that people(who plan to undergo or already undergone samAshrayaNam)should learn/know basic cooking! Problem solved!. This food topic reminds me to ask: Is guha (who offered non-veg to perumAL) an SV? dAsAnu dAsI NC Nappinnai > BALAJI IYENGAR <balajivn2000> wrote: > > > Srimathe Ramunajaya Nama: > > Adiyen has got a doubt regarding SamaashrayaNam. If SamaashrayaNam is done, one should not eat the food cooked outside or which contains Onions. But these days working People it is difficult to cook by themselves. To the extent possible if we can follow certain principles, can we get it done. Of course only if perumals grace should be there. > > jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam > Balaji V N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 krshNa says: api chEt su durAchArO BhajatE mAm ananya bhAk sAdhurEva sa mantavya: samyak vyavasitOhi sa: If someone adheres to all bad practices but has undivided SEshatva buddhi for Me, he is a pious man (Sadhu). Ramanuja says such a person is vaishNavAgrEsara (best vaishNava). ParASara bhattar clarifies this SlOka tells that Lord does not discrminate on the basis of vrttam or habits. bhUta dayA is a blessing for the Vaishnava and it is the natural habit of a Vaishnava not to eat non-veg. SrIguhapperumAL is the best SriVaishNava and all his dOshams (if any) are bhOgyam for the Lord. What is Bhakti? swAmini dAsasya anurAga mayI sthiti: says Bhattar. For the Lord, the state of love of the subservient chEtana. This is the basic definition. archanA does not mean buying ticket in the temple for Bhattar, it is some service (to Him and His devotees) out of our Bhakti (anurAga yukta SEshatva budhhi). adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Vishnu > > This food topic reminds me to ask: Is guha > (who offered non-veg to perumAL) an SV? > > dAsAnu dAsI > NC Nappinnai > > > BALAJI IYENGAR <balajivn2000> wrote: > > > > > > Srimathe Ramunajaya Nama: > > > > Adiyen has got a doubt regarding SamaashrayaNam. If SamaashrayaNam > is done, one should not eat the food cooked outside or which > contains Onions. But these days working People it is difficult to > cook by themselves. To the extent possible if we can follow certain > principles, can we get it done. Of course only if perumals grace > should be there. > > > > jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam > > Balaji V N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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