Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Rajan Swamin Adiyen Pranams. Reg:Superstitions & Garuda Puranam What adiyen understand from the lectures of our leading upanyasakas that Arthi Prabhandam of Manavala Mamunigal can be recited only in the house for those, whoare suffering for a long time and also want to reach vaikundam without further sufferings. But it is not recited in the temples. Please execuse me if there is any thing wrong, because this is what Adiyen understood with this manda bhuthi. Adiyen Mudaliandan Dasan Narasimhan Comandur >ramanuja >ramanuja >ramanuja >[ramanuja] Digest Number 955 >12 Dec 2004 10:50:54 -0000 > > > >There are 4 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. garuda purana reading - Response to Smt.Jayasree's post > <purohit > 2. Re: Superstitions & Garuda Purana > rajan s <rajan_ramaswamy > 3. Photos of HH swamy's thirunaksatram and malai nadu > "Sumithra Varadarajan" <Sumivaradan > 4. Re: garuda purana reading - Response to Smt.Jayasree's post > "jayasartn" <jayasartn > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 1 > Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:27:57 +1100 > <purohit >garuda purana reading - Response to Smt.Jayasree's post > > >Jai Sri Krishna > >First of all nowhere in the text itself is there any restriction on it's >reading - except to say it should be taught to the public from behind a >screen. > >According to your logic then Gita is also forbidden to read in the house >because it can either engender in the the mind of the reader a desire for >war or a complete lack of motivation to do anything!!! > >Any text on vairagya should also not be read by householders lest they >abandon their families. Bhakti texts also can lead the reader to neglect >their families in favour of devotional practices! > >Ramayana should not be read because it can lead to waging war on Srilanka >as >in the case of Kulashekhara Alwar!! > >I think your logic is flawed. Because every single text can influence the >mind of the reader to do devient things. So if we follow the superstitious >we will read nothing and follow custom like cattle! > >Krishna says in the Gita the Knowledge is the Supreme Purifier, and that >one >should take refuge in intellect (buddhau saranam aviccha!) > >According to one's svabhava, bhumika and adhikara one should strive to >aquire knowledge from anyway and everywhere - a no bhadra kratavo yantu >visvatah - (Rig Veda). Not take refuge in spurious psychological theories >about ill-effects from reading a sacred text! > >dasanudasan > > > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 2 > Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:31:37 -0800 (PST) > rajan s <rajan_ramaswamy >Re: Superstitions & Garuda Purana > >Dear Bhagavathas > >I have heard that Arthi Prabhandam of Manavala Mamunigal is not recommended >for study as it expreses MM's lonnging to reach Paramapadam fast. > >Any clarifications from learned . > >Adiyen >Ramanujadasan > >Soundararajan > >srinivasa chary <srinivasadasa wrote: >Dear Swamin, > I am in full agreement with you. After all G.P. is one of the 18 >sacred puranas and has lot of information useful for vaishnavas. I am >surprised see that similar kind of reserved attitude is found with respect >to "Archiradi" of Sri Pilla Lokacharya as this kalakshepam is generally >carried out at the passing away of a prapanna. It is to be understood that >both G.P. and Archaradi are works about the Lord and our journey to him. >The convention of their recital in a particular context is just to impart >this information when mood and climate is more inclined towards vairagya. >Adiyen, >Srinivasadasa > >purohit wrote: > >Dear Bhagavattotamas >There seems to be an incredible amount of superstition regarding the Garuda >Purana. The G.P. is a sacred text which takes the form of a dialogue >between >Srikrisna and Garuda on the nature of life and death. It is a book of >knowledge. How can the aquiring of knowledge about universal matters which >affect us all create negative effects? Negative effects in our life arise >as >a result of karma phalam not because we kept a book in our house! This is >what we call animistic superstition and is incompatable with the lofty >doctrines of Srivaishnavam. > >Adiyen > >Sriram > > > >azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam > Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. > >azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > >ramanuja/ > > >ramanuja > > > > > > > > Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 3 > Sun, 12 Dec 2004 08:42:27 +0530 > "Sumithra Varadarajan" <Sumivaradan >Photos of HH swamy's thirunaksatram and malai nadu > > > > Sri Parthasarathy thunai, > > > > http://www.pbase.com/svami/hh-tn-2004 > > > > As you all know from the previous mails, Sri Sri Vanamamalai Swamy's 72 > > thirunakshatra vaibhavam took place in a very grand manner on >Karthigaiyil > > Pooram day on 5th December, i.e on Sunday. > > > > In the evening, there was a felicitation function of 6 Sri vaishnava >Maha > > vidwans who have been rendering tireless service to the Srivaishnava > > community for more than 25 years, honoured by the thirukkaram of our HH > > Swamy on behalf of varamangai Nacchiyar Bhaktha sabha. > > Sri Dr. VV Ramanujam Swamy, Sri stalasayanththuraivar swamy, Sri > > Kumaravadi swamy, Kovil Vidwan Srirangam Narashimachar swamy, Sri > > Sudarsanar swamy of Srirangam (He was not able to attend the function >due > > to physical inconvenience) and Dr. K.A. Manavalan Swamy are the vidwans > > who were honoured. > > > > Dr. M.A.Venkatakrishnan swamy gave an apt introductory speech on the > > vaibhavams of the respective vidwans before each one of the above were > > felicitated by ponnAdai, prasadam and sambavanai by our HH swamy. > > > > This was followed by giving momentos to the students who were learning > > Samkrita and Dravida vedam from the mutt. > > > > There was a Kutchery followed by Dolotsavam. > > > > The above gallery has been updated with photos taken later. > > > > Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan, > > Varadaraja Dasan > > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > > > > > ______________________ > > ______________________ > > > > Message: 2 > > Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:55:01 +0800 > > "Mukund" <krupa > > MalainATTu divyadesams & Guruvayur > > > > SrI: > > > > A few more pictures sent by Smt. Sumithra: [Thanks SrI & SrImathi > > Varadarajans] > > > > 1. Tirukatkarai: http://www.pbase.com/svami/image/37358277 > > > > 2. TirunAvAi: http://www.pbase.com/svami/image/37358133 > > > > 3. Abhimana stalam Guruvayur: http://www.pbase.com/svami/guruvayur > > > > dAsan > > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > > > > > ______________________ > > ______________________ > > > > > > http://www.pbase.com/svami > > ------ > > Links > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 4 > Sun, 12 Dec 2004 04:07:19 -0000 > "jayasartn" <jayasartn >Re: garuda purana reading - Response to Smt.Jayasree's post > > > >SRIMATHE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA. > >ramanuja, <purohit@b...> wrote: > > > > Jai Sri Krishna > > > > First of all nowhere in the text itself is there any restriction on >it's > > reading - except to say it should be taught to the public from >behind a > > screen. > > > > According to your logic then Gita is also forbidden to read in the >house > > because it can either engender in the the mind of the reader a >desire for > > war or a complete lack of motivation to do anything!!! > > > >Dear bhagavatha, > >The above quote and the other quotes of yours are not regarded as >giving the kind of effect as you have mentioned. But the fact is that >it is difficult to find Garuda puranam and the book of MAhabharatha, >except perhaps a few parvas like Adhi parva, Shanthi parva and >Bheeshma parva which are full of notions for exalted living, in a >householder's possession. In RAmayana, the sundhara khandam alone is >a must-be-possessed book for the householder.Kindly check it with any >elders of yester generations. In our home we have never been allowed >to read Garuda puranam, though we possessed one. But this book used >to be in circulation when some one had been in need of it. The >reason told by our elders is that it will creat an ambience to depart >this world when read in an atmosphere which is otherwise of it. The >reading is regarded as a guide to help the departed soul in its >journey.Likewise the reading of Mahabharatha was not encouraged at >home. Only the book of Gita can be found in any home those days. When >parayana of Valmiki Ramayana is to be done at home, it used to be >done by pundits in the prescribed way, and not like how we read >nowadays. > >I, for one, used to experience the very emotions conveyed by the >texts I read. the chapters on Rama's exile, particularly the >description on how Sita would struggle to wear the mara-uri, and the >episode on abduction would have a lingering effect on me for days. >Even the happy note of sense of relief felt by Rama and Lakshmana on >getting an indication of the good news on Sita when they heard of >destruction of MAdhuvana by vanaras in joy, would raise my hairs, >even before VAlmiki tells of such effect on RAma and LAkshman. >Another narration is the 'Senniyongu'which has been earmarked as >part of aradhana at home. It is a wonderful experience to undergo >every idea conveyed by this pasuram. In my experience, it is one of >ecstasy, 'ha, He is in me, He has discarded all His other abodes and >chosen me as His abode.'The indescribable feeling that I undergo >while reciting this is perhaps what it is it to be an anukkar. After >reciting it, I will have nothing to ask Him, or pray to Him, or even >chant His name nor even to request kshama for any apacharam done in >the course of my prayers. It is a speechless calm for some moments >during and after the recital. > >So I am convinced, it is dependent on the level of thought-force in a >person. No one can deny that this the very basis on which meditation >as bhakthi works to realise Brahman. That is why the injunction -he >who meditates on Him in whatever form attains Him in that form - >which you will find in my mail on GAyathri. This alone effectively >explains the rationale behind discarding anya deva aradhana.This also >explains the universality of Sanatana dharma as applicable to every >one, though of different creed. Thought is the first force by which >It created. (It willed, may I become many). It is by this the Jiva >attains Him. Now I leave it to readers to apply this rationale to the >desirability or not of reading different texts. > >regards, >jayasree saranathan. > > > > > > > Any text on vairagya should also not be read by householders lest >they > > abandon their families. Bhakti texts also can lead the reader to >neglect > > their families in favour of devotional practices! > > > > Ramayana should not be read because it can lead to waging war on >Srilanka as > > in the case of Kulashekhara Alwar!! > > > > I think your logic is flawed. Because every single text can >influence the > > mind of the reader to do devient things. So if we follow the >superstitious > > we will read nothing and follow custom like cattle! > > > > Krishna says in the Gita the Knowledge is the Supreme Purifier, and >that one > > should take refuge in intellect (buddhau saranam aviccha!) > > > > According to one's svabhava, bhumika and adhikara one should strive >to > > aquire knowledge from anyway and everywhere - a no bhadra kratavo >yantu > > visvatah - (Rig Veda). Not take refuge in spurious psychological >theories > > about ill-effects from reading a sacred text! > > > > dasanudasan > > > > > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > > >azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam > >------ > Links > > > > >------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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