Sri Vishnuchitta kulanandana kalpavalli (Part-29)

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Dear VardaRajan, SumithrA,

 

If we say that Smt. AnDaL followed "vEdham vallArgaLaik koNdu viNNOar perumAn

thiruppAdham paNindhu" we find that the gOpikAs are innocent ones. How is it

that then we can conclude that they are following this postulate?

 

dAsan

vanamamalai padmanabhan

-

Sumithra Varadarajan

vanamamalai ; ramanuja

Cc: Oppiliappan

Monday, February 28, 2005 10:26 PM

[ramanuja] Sri Vishnuchitta kulanandana kalpavalli (Part-29)

Sri Parthasarathi thunai

Srimathe ramanujaya Namaha

Srimad Vara Vara MunayE namaha

Sri Vanachala mahA munayE namaha

 

We all go to temple to worship the divine lord. What is the procedure that has

to be followed while visiting a temple? “seiyyAdhana seiyOm” says andal. First

of all we have to follow our elders and act accordingly. We have to keep in

mind that we are not going to do anything they haven’t done. Then what should

we do? We have to go to the temple as a ghosti. We have to collect all

interested bhagavatas and along with them go to the temple. “vEdham

vallArgalai kondu vinnOr perumAn thiruppAdham panindhu” says Swamy Nammazhvar

(we will follow those well versed in sastras (in this world and outside) and

surrender to the divine feet of the lord.) Even the pAncharatra sAstram says

that before entering a temple it is necessary to get the permission of the

kshetra/dvara palakas. That is what andal shows in anushtAnam (practice) in

her sixteenth paasuram ("nAyakanAi nindra nandagOpanudaiya kOil kAppAnE"). Now

that she has awakened all the gopis and everyone have joined them, they all

proceeded towards the thirumaligai of Sri Nandagopar to sing thirupalliyezhuchi

to Kannapiran.

 

Though andal and her mates who were basically ignorant and illiterate small

girls didn’t know the sastras but since their ancestors were vaishnavas they

have inherited the practices by nature. So before waking up krishna they first

requested permission from the koil kAppAn (security to the temple), then after

pacifying him they proceeded inside. Then they got the permission of the vAsal

kAppan (open who guards the entrance.) Getting permission was not that easy

since not only the chetanas (koil kAppan and vAsal kAppan) but also the

achetanas (doors) were very cautious so that no harm occurs to their dear

krishna. After all interrogations they were allowed inside.

 

Here andal doesn’t name the security guards but says ‘koil kAppAn’ and ‘vAsal

kAppan’ since for Srivaishnavas, importance is only for the kainkaryam they do,

no matter who they are. In this paasuram, andal shows one another important

concept of Srivaishnavism. Brahmins give a lot of importance to AchAram

whereas deha AchAram is totally different from anushtanam. To attain the

divine lord bhAva shuddhi is only important deha shuddhi is not necessary. Our

poorvacharyas quote vibheeshanAzhvan, drowpathi and arjuna for those who

surrendered to emperuman without deha shuddhi but with bhAva shuddhi. So it is

said that if you are physically pure, no problem if you are nor pure then too no

problem. Just with pure mind surrender to the divine feet of emperuman as it

is.

 

(To be continued)

 

Azhvar emperumAnAr Jeeyer thiruvadigalE sharaNam

Adiyen ramanuja dAsee

Sumithra Varadarajan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam

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Dear VardaRajan, SumithrA,

 

If we say that Smt. AnDaL followed "vEdham vallArgaLaik koNdu viNNOar perumAn

thiruppAdham paNindhu" we find that the gOpikAs are innocent ones. How is it

that then we can conclude that they are following this postulate?

 

dAsan

vanamamalai padmanabhan

-

Sumithra Varadarajan

vanamamalai ; ramanuja

Cc: Oppiliappan

Monday, February 28, 2005 10:26 PM

[ramanuja] Sri Vishnuchitta kulanandana kalpavalli (Part-29)

Sri Parthasarathi thunai

Srimathe ramanujaya Namaha

Srimad Vara Vara MunayE namaha

Sri Vanachala mahA munayE namaha

 

We all go to temple to worship the divine lord. What is the procedure that has

to be followed while visiting a temple? “seiyyAdhana seiyOm” says andal. First

of all we have to follow our elders and act accordingly. We have to keep in

mind that we are not going to do anything they haven’t done. Then what should

we do? We have to go to the temple as a ghosti. We have to collect all

interested bhagavatas and along with them go to the temple. “vEdham

vallArgalai kondu vinnOr perumAn thiruppAdham panindhu” says Swamy Nammazhvar

(we will follow those well versed in sastras (in this world

and outside) and surrender to the divine feet of the lord.) Even the

pAncharatra sAstram says that before entering a temple it is necessary to get

the permission of the kshetra/dvara palakas. That is what andal shows in

anushtAnam (practice) in her sixteenth paasuram ("nAyakanAi nindra

nandagOpanudaiya kOil kAppAnE"). Now that she has awakened all the gopis and

everyone have joined them, they all proceeded towards the thirumaligai of Sri

Nandagopar to sing thirupalliyezhuchi to Kannapiran.

 

Though andal and her mates who were basically ignorant and illiterate small

girls didn’t know the sastras but since their ancestors were vaishnavas they

have inherited the practices by nature. So before waking up krishna they first

requested permission from the koil kAppAn (security to the temple), then after

pacifying him they proceeded inside. Then they got the permission of the vAsal

kAppan (open who guards the entrance.) Getting permission was not that easy

since not only the chetanas (koil kAppan and vAsal kAppan) but also the

achetanas (doors) were very cautious so that no harm occurs to their dear

krishna. After all interrogations they were allowed inside.

 

Here andal doesn’t name the security guards but says ‘koil kAppAn’ and ‘vAsal

kAppan’ since for Srivaishnavas, importance is only for the kainkaryam they do,

no matter who they are. In this paasuram, andal shows one another important

concept of Srivaishnavism. Brahmins give a lot of importance to AchAram

whereas deha AchAram is totally different from anushtanam. To attain the

divine lord bhAva shuddhi is only important deha shuddhi is not necessary. Our

poorvacharyas quote vibheeshanAzhvan, drowpathi and arjuna for those who

surrendered to emperuman without deha shuddhi but with bhAva shuddhi. So it is

said that if you are physically pure, no problem if you are nor pure then too no

problem. Just with pure mind surrender to the divine feet of emperuman as it

is.

 

(To be continued)

 

Azhvar emperumAnAr Jeeyer thiruvadigalE sharaNam

Adiyen ramanuja dAsee

Sumithra Varadarajan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranamazhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam

 

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Dear Sri Padmanabhan,

 

Ofcourse, andal had taken up the edaichi bhAvam and hence she will not know what

the sastras say. But since they were born in a vaishnavic family they have

inherited the procedures by nature (their parents did it so they do it, their

parents followed their parents and the chain thus goes on). This is the

explanation given in the vyakhyanam for your question.

 

Adiyen ramanuja dAsee

Sumithra Varadarajan

-

Padmanabhan

ramanuja

Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:57 AM

Re: [ramanuja] Sri Vishnuchitta kulanandana kalpavalli (Part-29)

Dear VardaRajan, SumithrA,

 

If we say that Smt. AnDaL followed "vEdham vallArgaLaik koNdu viNNOar perumAn

thiruppAdham paNindhu" we find that the gOpikAs are innocent ones. How is it

that then we can conclude that they are following this postulate?

 

dAsan

vanamamalai padmanabhan

-

Sumithra Varadarajan

vanamamalai ; ramanuja

Cc: Oppiliappan

Monday, February 28, 2005 10:26 PM

[ramanuja] Sri Vishnuchitta kulanandana kalpavalli (Part-29)

Sri Parthasarathi thunai

Srimathe ramanujaya Namaha

Srimad Vara Vara MunayE namaha

Sri Vanachala mahA munayE namaha

 

We all go to temple to worship the divine lord. What is the procedure that has

to be followed while visiting a temple? “seiyyAdhana seiyOm” says andal. First

of all we have to follow our elders and act accordingly. We have to keep in

mind that we are not going to do anything they haven’t done. Then what should

we do? We have to go to the temple as a ghosti. We have to collect all

interested bhagavatas and along with them go to the temple. “vEdham

vallArgalai kondu vinnOr perumAn thiruppAdham panindhu” says Swamy Nammazhvar

(we will follow those well versed in sastras (in this world and outside) and

surrender to the divine feet of the lord.) Even the pAncharatra sAstram says

that before entering a temple it is necessary to get the permission of the

kshetra/dvara palakas. That is what andal shows in anushtAnam (practice) in

her sixteenth paasuram ("nAyakanAi nindra nandagOpanudaiya kOil kAppAnE"). Now

that she has awakened all the gopis and everyone have joined them, they all

proceeded towards the thirumaligai of Sri Nandagopar to sing thirupalliyezhuchi

to Kannapiran.

 

Though andal and her mates who were basically ignorant and illiterate small

girls didn’t know the sastras but since their ancestors were vaishnavas they

have inherited the practices by nature. So before waking up krishna they first

requested permission from the koil kAppAn (security to the temple), then after

pacifying him they proceeded inside. Then they got the permission of the vAsal

kAppan (open who guards the entrance.) Getting permission was not that easy

since not only the chetanas (koil kAppan and vAsal kAppan) but also the

achetanas (doors) were very cautious so that no harm occurs to their dear

krishna. After all interrogations they were allowed inside.

 

Here andal doesn’t name the security guards but says ‘koil kAppAn’ and ‘vAsal

kAppan’ since for Srivaishnavas, importance is only for the kainkaryam they do,

no matter who they are. In this paasuram, andal shows one another important

concept of Srivaishnavism. Brahmins give a lot of importance to AchAram

whereas deha AchAram is totally different from anushtanam. To attain the

divine lord bhAva shuddhi is only important deha shuddhi is not necessary. Our

poorvacharyas quote vibheeshanAzhvan, drowpathi and arjuna for those who

surrendered to emperuman without deha shuddhi but with bhAva shuddhi. So it is

said that if you are physically pure, no problem if you are nor pure then too no

problem. Just with pure mind surrender to the divine feet of emperuman as it

is.

 

(To be continued)

 

Azhvar emperumAnAr Jeeyer thiruvadigalE sharaNam

Adiyen ramanuja dAsee

Sumithra Varadarajan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranamazhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam

[Guest guest]

Sri Parthasarathi thunai

Srimathe ramanujaya Namaha

Srimad Vara Vara MunayE namaha

Sri Vanachala mahA munayE namaha

 

We all go to temple to worship the divine lord. What is the procedure that has

to be followed while visiting a temple? “seiyyAdhana seiyOm” says andal. First

of all we have to follow our elders and act accordingly. We have to keep in

mind that we are not going to do anything they haven’t done. Then what should

we do? We have to go to the temple as a ghosti. We have to collect all

interested bhagavatas and along with them go to the temple. “vEdham

vallArgalai kondu vinnOr perumAn thiruppAdham panindhu” says Swamy Nammazhvar

(we will follow those well versed in sastras (in this world and outside) and

surrender to the divine feet of the lord.) Even the pAncharatra sAstram says

that before entering a temple it is necessary to get the permission of the

kshetra/dvara palakas. That is what andal shows in anushtAnam (practice) in

her sixteenth paasuram ("nAyakanAi nindra nandagOpanudaiya kOil kAppAnE"). Now

that she has awakened all the gopis and everyone have joined them, they all

proceeded towards the thirumaligai of Sri Nandagopar to sing thirupalliyezhuchi

to Kannapiran.

 

Though andal and her mates who were basically ignorant and illiterate small

girls didn’t know the sastras but since their ancestors were vaishnavas they

have inherited the practices by nature. So before waking up krishna they first

requested permission from the koil kAppAn (security to the temple), then after

pacifying him they proceeded inside. Then they got the permission of the vAsal

kAppan (open who guards the entrance.) Getting permission was not that easy

since not only the chetanas (koil kAppan and vAsal kAppan) but also the

achetanas (doors) were very cautious so that no harm occurs to their dear

krishna. After all interrogations they were allowed inside.

 

Here andal doesn’t name the security guards but says ‘koil kAppAn’ and ‘vAsal

kAppan’ since for Srivaishnavas, importance is only for the kainkaryam they do,

no matter who they are. In this paasuram, andal shows one another important

concept of Srivaishnavism. Brahmins give a lot of importance to AchAram

whereas deha AchAram is totally different from anushtanam. To attain the

divine lord bhAva shuddhi is only important deha shuddhi is not necessary. Our

poorvacharyas quote vibheeshanAzhvan, drowpathi and arjuna for those who

surrendered to emperuman without deha shuddhi but with bhAva shuddhi. So it is

said that if you are physically pure, no problem if you are nor pure then too no

problem. Just with pure mind surrender to the divine feet of emperuman as it

is.

 

(To be continued)

 

Azhvar emperumAnAr Jeeyer thiruvadigalE sharaNam

Adiyen ramanuja dAsee

Sumithra Varadarajan