Guest guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 JaiSrimannarayana Guna, ghostis are amazing when HH Sri Sri Sri Chinna JeeyarSwamiji conducts them. Dailyover twenty thousand to forty thousand devotees attend them. WhenHH Sri Sri Sri Chinna Jeeyar Swamiji conducts Sri Vishnu Sahasranama or specialevents over Eight Hundred Thousand devotees attended the functiondaily. For the events during pushkaras millions of devotees attended thefunctions. GitaJyothi functions millions and millions from thousands of villages attended thefunction. Ithink the approach and universality are key.... JaiSrimannarayana! ramanuja[ramanuja]On Behalf OfGunaVenkatThursday, October 06, 2005 11:51AMTo: ramanujaCc: Sampath KumarPadmanabanRe: [ramanuja] Sri.U.Ve Karapankadu Swami Part11 : KALAKSHEPA GOSHTI SwaminAdiyen agree with you totally that in today's context theKalakshebam style is fast depleting , think its mainly due to 1) Timefactor, people wish to know lot in small time , also not going in to deep andanalysing why author said so etc2)Knowldege of the recepients inSanskrit or manipravalam is not that much (as compared to earlierera)3) Interest shown by the people is only selected few ,we used seeonly selcted crowds even for upanyasams , for Grantha Kalakshebams it will bestill worse 4) Also adiyen feel we should try to reach more peoplewith simple meanings in diff languages here my feeling is not to hurtany individual or group but general apprehension how much our sampradayan haspercolated to the peopleThough this is the easiest one to adopt withnothing in our side to make it all in His hands , still the count is lowcompare to other religionsSorry for disturbing thebhAghavadasAdiyenGunaOn Wed, 05 Oct 2005 Sampath KumarPadmanaban wrote :>sri:>>KALAKSHEPA GOSHTI *************************************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone other than the intended addressee is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, retention, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to or forward a copy of this message to the sender and delete the message, any attachments, and any copies thereof from your system. *************************************************************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 The ability to reach one and all is very important. Use of simple yet effective language to be able to reach both the educated and illiterate alike would be the best way to attract more people to the fold and expand the Sampradayam. That is why speakers like Sri Vanamamalai Jeeyer Swami, Sri Chinna Jeeyar Swami, Sri Velukkudi Swami are able to attract people to our sampradaya. Also, there is a big necessity for simple books on our Sampradayam, unfortunately many of the Sri Vaishnava literature that I've perused so far seemed to be catered for the Iyengars or people with adequate sanskrit/tamil language. Swami Prabhupada was able to make ISKCON a global Vaishnva Giant mainly because of his books and thus, his ability to appeal to everyone. adiyen Kidambi Soundararajan."Mudumbai, Raghu" <raghu.mudumbai (AT) bearingpoint (DOT) com> wrote: Jai Srimannarayana Guna, ghostis are amazing when HH Sri Sri Sri Chinna Jeeyar Swamiji conducts them. Daily over twenty thousand to forty thousand devotees attend them. When HH Sri Sri Sri Chinna Jeeyar Swamiji conducts Sri Vishnu Sahasranama or special events over Eight Hundred Thousand devotees attended the function daily. For the events during pushkaras millions of devotees attended the functions. Gita Jyothi functions millions and millions from thousands of villages attended the function. I think the approach and universality are key.... Jai Srimannarayana! ramanuja [ramanuja]On Behalf Of GunaVenkatThursday, October 06, 2005 11:51 AMramanujaCc: Sampath Kumar PadmanabanRe: [ramanuja] Sri.U.Ve Karapankadu Swami Part 11 : KALAKSHEPA GOSHTI SwaminAdiyen agree with you totally that in today's context the Kalakshebam style is fast depleting , think its mainly due to 1) Time factor, people wish to know lot in small time , also not going in to deep and analysing why author said so etc2)Knowldege of the recepients in Sanskrit or manipravalam is not that much (as compared to earlier era)3) Interest shown by the people is only selected few ,we used see only selcted crowds even for upanyasams , for Grantha Kalakshebams it will be still worse 4) Also adiyen feel we should try to reach more people with simple meanings in diff languages here my feeling is not to hurt any individual or group but general apprehension how much our sampradayan has percolated to the peopleThough this is the easiest one to adopt with nothing in our side to make it all in His hands , still the count is low compare to other religionsSorry for disturbing the bhAghavadasAdiyenGunaOn Wed, 05 Oct 2005 Sampath Kumar Padmanaban wrote :>sri:>>KALAKSHEPA GOSHTI ***************************************************************************************************The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone other than the intended addressee is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, retention, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to or forward a copy of this message to the sender and delete the message, any attachments, and any copies thereof from your system.*************************************************************************************************** for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Jai Sri Krishna, I totaly agree with Sriman Kidambi Soundararajan. I am a British born Hindu of Gujerati Origin. I have become very attracted to the teachings of the Alavars and Sri Ramanuja. However It was the books of Srila Prabhupada that i initialy became attracted to Vaishnavism, i had previously Read many Books on Advaita, however these did no appeal to me. Here in the UK The Gaudiya Vaishnavas have done so much to spread the teachings of Geeta and Bhagavatam, one of my most blissfull expreinces of my life so far has been to have Darshan of Sri Sri Radha Golkulananda at the ISKCON headquarters (Bhaktivedanta manor) just outside London. Also more relavant to this topic it was the Gaudiya Bhakthas who told me about the Glories and importance of Sri Ramanuja and Sri Sampradayam. As a British Hindu who can only speak simple Gujerati and some Hindi, i often find the articles on Sri Vaishnavism hard to understand as it is largely aimed at a Tamil/southern audience. I would love to see more books written by Sri Vaishnava Acharyas which are simple for North Indians and Westerners like my self to understand. The Sri Vaishnava Sampradaya is like a shining lamp hidden in a dark box, this box needs to be opened to reavel the divine light to the whole world Jai Sri Krishnavimalkumar ranganathan <panardasan > wrote: Sri: The ability to reach one and all is very important. Use of simple yet effective language to be able to reach both the educated and illiterate alike would be the best way to attract more people to the fold and expand the Sampradayam. That is why speakers like Sri Vanamamalai Jeeyer Swami, Sri Chinna Jeeyar Swami, Sri Velukkudi Swami are able to attract people to our sampradaya. Also, there is a big necessity for simple books on our Sampradayam, unfortunately many of the Sri Vaishnava literature that I've perused so far seemed to be catered for the Iyengars or people with adequate sanskrit/tamil language. Swami Prabhupada was able to make ISKCON a global Vaishnva Giant mainly because of his books and thus, his ability to appeal to everyone. adiyen Kidambi Soundararajan."Mudumbai, Raghu" <raghu.mudumbai (AT) bearingpoint (DOT) com> wrote: Jai Srimannarayana Guna, ghostis are amazing when HH Sri Sri Sri Chinna Jeeyar Swamiji conducts them. Daily over twenty thousand to forty thousand devotees attend them. When HH Sri Sri Sri Chinna Jeeyar Swamiji conducts Sri Vishnu Sahasranama or special events over Eight Hundred Thousand devotees attended the function daily. For the events during pushkaras millions of devotees attended the functions. Gita Jyothi functions millions and millions from thousands of villages attended the function. I think the approach and universality are key.... Jai Srimannarayana! ramanuja [ramanuja]On Behalf Of GunaVenkatThursday, October 06, 2005 11:51 AMramanujaCc: Sampath Kumar PadmanabanRe: [ramanuja] Sri.U.Ve Karapankadu Swami Part 11 : KALAKSHEPA GOSHTI SwaminAdiyen agree with you totally that in today's context the Kalakshebam style is fast depleting , think its mainly due to 1) Time factor, people wish to know lot in small time , also not going in to deep and analysing why author said so etc2)Knowldege of the recepients in Sanskrit or manipravalam is not that much (as compared to earlier era)3) Interest shown by the people is only selected few ,we used see only selcted crowds even for upanyasams , for Grantha Kalakshebams it will be still worse 4) Also adiyen feel we should try to reach more people with simple meanings in diff languages here my feeling is not to hurt any individual or group but general apprehension how much our sampradayan has percolated to the peopleThough this is the easiest one to adopt with nothing in our side to make it all in His hands , still the count is low compare to other religionsSorry for disturbing the bhAghavadasAdiyenGunaOn Wed, 05 Oct 2005 Sampath Kumar Padmanaban wrote :>sri:>>KALAKSHEPA GOSHTI ***************************************************************************************************The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone other than the intended addressee is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, retention, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to or forward a copy of this message to the sender and delete the message, any attachments, and any copies thereof from your system.*************************************************************************************************** for GoodClick here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Sri: You are right, last week I had been to a ISKON temple at Boston (am here for a visit) , I was amazed by their service , their reach to people was far great than ours , Adiyen feel still we can not come out of the shackles of all ritualistic attitudes , I heard from ISKON devotess they are reaching to Peru, Polland etc where none have ever thougth of and they said that one full village has started following them Its Amazing , Adiyen feel this really shows His Nirhethuva Krupai and nothing more Alwars and PoorvAcharyas intentions were very much same , like this is the bhAghavad Kaimkaryam , I dont mean converting as the measure but trying to reach them and take part in their happies and sorrows , Dear Raghu , Adiyen knew fully well about our Jeeyar swamy and if you see the underlying reason , his priority is trying to reach the people than anything else (correct me if I am wrong) , swamy perceives that is the great bhAgavada Kaimkaryam and he is the main motivator for neechan like Adiyen , though Alwars and Poorvacharyas did say on these lines , our swamy is the living example Adiyen's humble reqeust to bhAghavadas , by no means I wish to demean any of the attitudes of others, here my babbling is mainly to make ours more rechable . So if by any means Aidyen hurt any of your feelings Adiyen's apology . Adiyen Guna On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 vimalkumar ranganathan wrote : >Sri: > >The ability to reach one and all is very important. Use of simple yet effective language to be able to reach both the educated and illiterate alike would be the best way to attract more people to the fold and expand the Sampradayam. > >That is why speakers like Sri Vanamamalai Jeeyer Swami, Sri Chinna Jeeyar Swami, Sri Velukkudi Swami are able to attract people to our sampradaya. > >Also, there is a big necessity for simple books on our Sampradayam, unfortunately many of the Sri Vaishnava literature that I've perused so far seemed to be catered for the Iyengars or people with adequate sanskrit/tamil language. Swami Prabhupada was able to make ISKCON a global Vaishnva Giant mainly because of his books and thus, his ability to appeal to everyone. > >adiyen >Kidambi Soundararajan. >"Mudumbai, Raghu" <raghu.mudumbai (AT) bearingpoint (DOT) com> wrote: > >Jai Srimannarayana Guna, > >ghostis are amazing when HH Sri Sri Sri Chinna Jeeyar Swamiji conducts them. >Daily over twenty thousand to forty thousand devotees attend them. >When HH Sri Sri Sri Chinna Jeeyar Swamiji conducts Sri Vishnu Sahasranama or special events over Eight Hundred Thousand devotees attended the function daily. For the events during pushkaras millions of devotees attended the functions. > >Gita Jyothi functions millions and millions from thousands of villages attended the function. > >I think the approach and universality are key.... >Jai Srimannarayana! > > > > > ramanuja [ramanuja]On Behalf Of GunaVenkat >Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:51 AM >ramanuja >Cc: Sampath Kumar Padmanaban >Re: [ramanuja] Sri.U.Ve Karapankadu Swami Part 11 : KALAKSHEPA GOSHTI > > > > >Swamin >Adiyen agree with you totally that in today's context the Kalakshebam style is fast depleting , think its mainly due to > >1) Time factor, people wish to know lot in small time , also not going in to deep and analysing why author said so etc > >2)Knowldege of the recepients in Sanskrit or manipravalam is not that much (as compared to earlier era) > >3) Interest shown by the people is only selected few ,we used see only selcted crowds even for upanyasams , for Grantha Kalakshebams it will be still worse > >4) Also adiyen feel we should try to reach more people with simple meanings in diff languages > >here my feeling is not to hurt any individual or group but general apprehension how much our sampradayan has percolated to the people > >Though this is the easiest one to adopt with nothing in our side to make it all in His hands , still the count is low compare to other religions > >Sorry for disturbing the bhAghavadas > >Adiyen >Guna >On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 Sampath Kumar Padmanaban wrote : > >sri: > > > >KALAKSHEPA GOSHTI > > >azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam > > > > > >U s bank home mortgage U s patent search Corporate culture Business culture of china Illinois > > > > > > Visit your group "ramanuja" on the web. > > > ramanuja > > > > > > > >*************************************************************************************************** >The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. 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Guest guest Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 ramanuja, pritesh patel <tesh_tel> wrote: > > Jai Sri Krishna, > Also more relavant to this topic it was the Gaudiya Bhakthas who > told me about the Glories and importance of Sri Ramanuja and Sri > Sampradayam. That is not surprising - Chaitanya himself spent 6 months in Sri Rangam. Prabhupada guru, Bhaktisiddhanta had high regards for sri sampradaya. He spent some time in Sri Perumpudur learning Sri Vaisnava liturgies etc, which he later incorporated into his Gaudiya movement (Source - Ray of Visnu). I am of the opinion that sri vaisnavism has a strong influence on the Gaudiya tradition. > As a British Hindu who can only speak simple Gujerati and some >Hindi, i often find the articles on Sri Vaishnavism hard to >understand as it is largely aimed at a Tamil/southern audience. I fully agree with you on this point. There are emerging many Western sri vaisnava scholars today, like for e.g , Frank Morales and Rama Raamanujachraya who are successful with westerners. Pease refer to their links below for more information http://www.dharmacentral.com/aboutfm.htm http://www.srimatham.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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