Thennacharyas and Desikar - 2

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srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha

srImadh varavara munayE namaha

 

Excellent!! Wonderful!!

 

kEttOm kEttOm kEttOm, kAdhukkiniyana kEttOm...

 

Common sense questions from TCA Swamin. Sri Azhagiya Manavala

Perumal Nayanar, never was a poet and never composed one. They were

only writing prose. Sure that he knows what he is capable of and

hence there is no question that he would have question

a "kavithArkika simham" knowing well that he cannot write a poem.

 

Awaiting the rebuttal to it. Only facts are accepted.

 

But Sri TCA Swamin, can you please check the period of Sri Azhagiya

Manavala Perumal Nayanar. I read, in an article, by Sri

Krishnamachariar of Sri Vaishnava Sri that, he had already attained

AchAryan thiruvadi, even before Sri Desikar reached Srirangam at his

age of 40. Please do check this, with the information you have. Once

I am back in ThiruvallikkEni, I will check that book and give the

details.

 

AzhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam

adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan,

Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh

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It seems that Swami Desikan was called upon to expound the principles of

Vishishtadvaita when he was at Srirangam to refute the arguments of advaitis

and other vedantis who were frequenting Srirangam at that time.

 

The question of a contest between Azhagiya Manavala Perumal nayanar and Desikan

is only a fiction .

 

Vedanta Desikan is to be referred as Desikan and not as Desikar thinking that it

is more respectful. Desikar represents a caste in Tamilnadu.

 

Adiyen

Ramanujadasan

Soundararajan

 

 

Azhwar Emberumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vinjamoor_venkatesh <vinjamoor_venkatesh > wrote:

srImathE rAmAnujAya namahasrImadh varavara munayE namahaExcellent!! Wonderful!!

kEttOm kEttOm kEttOm, kAdhukkiniyana kEttOm...Common sense questions from TCA

Swamin. Sri Azhagiya Manavala Perumal Nayanar, never was a poet and never

composed one. They were only writing prose. Sure that he knows what he is

capable of and hence there is no question that he would have question a

"kavithArkika simham" knowing well that he cannot write a poem.Awaiting the

rebuttal to it. Only facts are accepted.But Sri TCA Swamin, can you please

check the period of Sri Azhagiya Manavala Perumal Nayanar. I read, in an

article, by Sri Krishnamachariar of Sri Vaishnava Sri that, he had already

attained AchAryan thiruvadi, even before Sri Desikar reached Srirangam at his

age of 40. Please do check this, with the information you

have. Once I am back in ThiruvallikkEni, I will check that book and give the

details.AzhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigaLE saraNamadiyEn rAmAnuja

dAsan,Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh

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Sri:

 

These are the dates I have for the time periods

of these acharyas:

 

1. From Periya Thirumudi Adaviu, Pillai Lokacharyar

was born in the year 1205. The year of his passing

away from this world is not 100% clear. It happened

during one islamic invasion into Srirangam. But

there were multiple invasions. If we take it that

he left Srirangam in the invasion of 1311, then

his period is 105 years: 1205-1311. This is the

most commonly accepted time period. Some state that

Namperumal and Pillai Lokachariar exited Srirangam

in 1327, which would place his time period at

1205-1327 (121 years).

 

2. It is said that Namperumal blessed Vadakku

Thiruveethip Pillai to have a son like Him (in

contrast to Pillai Lokacharyar, who was blessed

to be born like Nampillai by Nampillai himself)

during the first birthday celebration of Pillai

Lokacharyar. Azhagiya Manavala Perumal Nayanar

is said to have been born a year after that. That

would place his birth year at 1207. He is said

to have lived 100 years. His period therefore

is 1207-1307 or 1308.

 

3. Periyavachchan Pillai's time period is

1167-1262.

 

4. Vedanta Desikan's accepted time period is

1268-1369.

 

If Vedanta Desikan indeed reached Srirangam at

the age of 40, then that would be the year 1308.

Which would mean that Azhagiya Manavala Perumal

Nayanar had indeed already attained his acharyan's

divine feet by then. If there was any possible

overlap (which would have been miniscule), there

is no evidence to show that the two had any

significant interaction.

 

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 

 

--- vinjamoor_venkatesh <vinjamoor_venkatesh

wrote:

> But Sri TCA Swamin, can you please check the period of

> Sri Azhagiya

> Manavala Perumal Nayanar. I read, in an article, by Sri

> Krishnamachariar of Sri Vaishnava Sri that, he had

> already attained

> AchAryan thiruvadi, even before Sri Desikar reached

> Srirangam at his

> age of 40. Please do check this, with the information you

> have. Once

> I am back in ThiruvallikkEni, I will check that book and

> give the

> details.

 

 

 

 

 

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Sri:

 

One correction. It is said by some that Pillai

Lokacharyar left Srirangam in 1323 (not 1327)

(during Uluq Khan's invasion) and that he

attained his acharyan's thiruvadi in 1325,

which would set his age at 120 years.

 

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 

 

--- TCA Venkatesan <vtca wrote:

> 1. From Periya Thirumudi Adaviu, Pillai Lokacharyar

> was born in the year 1205. The year of his passing

> away from this world is not 100% clear. It happened

> during one islamic invasion into Srirangam. But

> there were multiple invasions. If we take it that

> he left Srirangam in the invasion of 1311, then

> his period is 105 years: 1205-1311. This is the

> most commonly accepted time period. Some state that

> Namperumal and Pillai Lokachariar exited Srirangam

> in 1327, which would place his time period at

> 1205-1327 (121 years).

 

 

 

 

 

 

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