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Mere English words cannot do justice for expressing

the feeling of "THANKS" for this beautiful and vivid posting

of bringing the conversion between Sri Nanjeeyar and Sri Nampillai live

in front of our eyes. This lucidly explains the rationality of the

thinking of our poorvacharyas and adiyen is in capable do any more than

singing pallaundu to

1) Our beloved Sri Nanjeeyar and Sri Nampillai in

the first place.

2) Sri ESB swamy to present this live commentary to

the present day world in form of nectarian upanyasams.

3) The Sri Vaishnavas who had taken pains to bring

this invaluable treasure in the form of CDs

4) Finally to Sri Anand swamy who have taken special

pains to translate this nectar and present it to our forum to "Kuudi

irunthu kulirnthu"

Adiyen Ramanuja dasan,

Varadaraja dasan

Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:05:35 -0000

"andal_krishna" <andal_krishna >

LIFE SKETCH OF SRI NAMPILLAI - Part 2 by Sri U.Ve. Bhuvarahacharya

Swamy

Part Two of Sri Nampillai's Life Sketch

By: U.Ve. Sri E.S. Bhuvarahachariar Swamy

Hereafter the narrative account of Nampillai's life history is

interspersed with a series of serious questions posed by him to his

revered Acharya, Sri Nanjeeyar and the latter's crisp and clear cut

answers which dispel several doubts lingering in our mind for a very

long time as a result of which it is well nigh impossible to erase

them from our poor hearts. So the remaining part in this essay

assumes greater importance. It is worthwhile to bestow the best

attention on this question and answer section.

Q1. Once Sri Nampillai questioned his preceptor " There are so many

means of salvation (upayas) prescribed by the shastras as Karma

yoga, Gnana yoga, Bhakti yoga, offering garlands to the deity Sriman

Narayana, lighting lamps in His temple, residing at the Divya Desams

like Srirangam etc., chanting His sweet names, Purushothama vidya,

the knowledge of the secret cause of Sriman Narayana's incarnations

etc., There are also innumerable pramanas (Authoritative Supporting

Statements) in the shastras for all these upayas.

The followers of these upayas (means of salvation) are also in

majority in this world. But for Saranagathi (accepting Sriman

Narayana as the sole, safe, secured means of salvation) the pramanas

are less in number and the followers are to be traced. The Rishi

(sage), chandas, devathas (the deities) are mentioned in the case of

other upayas namely Karma yoga etc., whereas they are missing in

Saranagathi. Why this disparity between the two when Saranagathi is

the easiest means of salvation?

Sri Nanjeeyar's Answer (S.N.A) - There is no need for any pramana in

the case of Saranagathi, because it is something that is self-

evident and therefore requires no proof or pramana. Let me explain

it by an example viz: Two men are crossing a river. One has fallen

into the depth of the river and is sinking. Does the other man go in

search of a Pramana to lift up and save the sinking one? He saves

him automatically. All the Jeevatmas who have fallen into the ocean

of samsara are equal to the sinking man. Sriman Narayana lifts them

up by stretching forth his merciful hands. Therefore it is nothing

but common sense and requires no pramana. Here are the pramanas if

you still insist upon getting some pramanas. In the Vedanta a very

well known statement runs as follows:

Pramana no 1.

"yo Brahmanam..mumukshurvai saranamaham prapadye"

(sweta asvatara Upanishad)

Meaning:

("First of all Sriman Narayana created Brahma. He taught him the

entire Vedas. He has given me the clear knowledge with reference to

Him. I take refuge under Him desiring salvation" says Veda Purusha.)

Pramana no 2.

"Tasmath Nyasa mesham Tapasam Atriktham Ahu:"

(Taitriya Narayana - 50)

Meaning:

("Therefore this Nyasa namely Saranagathi excels all other penances")

Pramana no 3.

"Nyasa Ithyahuhu maneeshino Brahmanam"

(Taitriya Narayana - 50)

Meaning:

(Wise men declare that Saranagathi is the Brahman (Sriman Narayana)

Himself)

Pramana no 4.

"Nikshepa aparaparyayo Nyasa: Panchangasamyutha

Sanyas: styaga ithyuktha saranagathirithyapi"

(Lakshmi Tantram 17-74)

Meaning:

(Surrendering to God (nikshepa) has five accessories. The

word "nikshepa" has several synonyms like Nyasa, Sanyasa, thyaga

and

Saranagathi.

Thus pramanas are readily available and they are also many. There is

no dearth of such pramanas.

You should not judge the superiority of other upayas by the majority

of people opting for them. Among the worldly men only some can

become sanyasins on that score can you say that the sanyasins are

inferior to others?

I will give you another example (said Nanjeeyar)

"Jyothishtomena Suvarga Kamo yajetha" is a Vedic statement. This

means perform a sacrifice by name Jyothishoma if you wish to reach

Heaven (Indra's world) and enjoy celestial pleasures there. But not

everyone performs the sacrifice. Very few interested in reaching

heaven perform it. Do you mean to say that those few men are

inferior to others? Certainly not.

Comparatively speaking that the pleasures in Indra's world is far

inferior to the indescribable unimaginable and endless pleasures of

Sri Vaikuntam, the heavenly abode of Sriman Narayana. In the case of

Swarga (Indra's abode) the pleasures are limited and have an end.

Those who go there return to this mortal world after exhausting

their punyas (merits) whereas those who go to Vaikunta Loka will

never return. Only very few people are interested in going to swarga

(Indra Loka) even though all people come to know that pleasures of

heaven are most enjoyable and superior. That being the case there is

no wonder if a very few people resort to Saranagathi. Therefore the

majority or the minority of followers does not decide the issue.

Hence the greatness of Saranagathi cannot be measured or estimated

by the availability of numerous pramanas or by the majority of

people opting for it.

Oh! Nampillai, you asked me another question -

Why there is no prescription of Rishi, Chandas, and Devatha etc in

the case of Saranagathi. We find them in the case of other upayas.

The answer is this. "Rishya adheencha Karanyasam Anganyasancha

Varjayet". This is a famous dictum ruling out the prescription of

Rishi etc., Anganyasa, and Karanyasa, which are laid down as

accessories for other upayas. Hence you find the surrenderers not

desiring all preliminary rites. I wish to add one thing more. The

lord who is Saranya has an aversion to accept any kind of assistance

while saving the surrenderer. He is called Nirapeksha upaya. This is

the meaning of "Eka" sabda in "Sarvadharman Parityajya Mam

Ekam

Saranam Vraja" (Nirapeksha upaya means he does not expect any other

help in salvaging the souls of this world. That being the case with

regard to the Lord there is no wonder that the saranagathi, which is

synonymous with Him, will also not tolerate Anganyasa, Karanyasa

etc., This is my strong faith.

Nampillai listened to his Acharya with rapt attention and thought

that he was very fortunate in getting such a holy preceptor.

Q.no 2.

Nampillai asked his teacher:

"How can a man understand that he has the qualities of a

Srivaishnava?" (It means what are the special identifying

characteristics of a Srivaishnava)

S.N.A - a. If a man comes to know that the Lord Sriman Narayana in

his Archavatara (in his idol form in temples and other places) does

possess all his supreme powers as in Srivaikunta Loka, He can

consider himself to be a Srivaishnava (That means it is very

difficult for an ordinary person to have great faith in Archavatara.

The moment he thinks that Archavatara has both paratva and soulabhya

he becomes a Srivaishnava. Archavatara Pravanya as Thirumangai Alwar

possessed is a very important criterion for a Srivaishnava, which is

very difficult to get)

b. A man in general loves his son and wife very dearly. If he

possesses that much love and affection towards a Srivaishnava, he

can consider himself as included in the list of Srivaishnavas. (The

man is expected to shower more love on a Srivaishnava than he does

toward his family members. Here it is amusing to see that some

concession is allowed by Sri Nanjeeyar.)

c. When abused by a Srivaishnava, if a man does not become angry,

but on the contrary receives his wrathful words with a cheerful

countenance and as an enjoyable pleasure he is a Srivaishnava.

Therefore a man should possess these three important qualities as

explained before. They are

1.Archaavatara Paratva Buddhi

2.Bhagavatha Prema

3.Bhagavatha Katinokthi Bhogyatha Buddhi

If any one after close examination of him finds that he is in

possession of these three virtues, he can conclude within himself

that he is a Srivaishnava (Author's note: Please check yourself)

Q.no.3

Sri Nampillai was studying Sri Bhashyam (Sanskrit commentary of Sri

Ramanuja on Brahma Sutras composed by Vyasa) under the guidance of

Sri Nanjeeyar. At that time the food was ready for the offering of

the Lord. Sri Nanjeeyar was informed about this so that he may

perform "Tiruvaradhanam"(Pooja) to his deity at his mansion.

The

teacher ordered the pupil, Sri Nampillai to perform the pooja. The

disciple respectfully and humbly told the teacher that he was

ignorant of the manner of performing as it would by performed by his

Acharya. The teacher quipped, "Do you think that I know very well

the procedure? Can you not simply chant the second half of Dwaya

Mantra (Srimathe Naraayanaya Namaha) and wash the holy feet of the

Lord. (The idol called Chokka Thevar at my residence) and offer the

cooked food to him with due respect (Note - This answer points

towards the Saulabhya of the Lord unlike the demigods. It is easy to

satisfy him by a very simple Pooja. No elaborate and painful

procedure is needed "parivadil eeshan" says Sri Nammazhwar in

his

Tiruvaimozhi. Parivatu means distressing, painful and agonizing

procedure of pooja. Il means there is not. The Lord, Sriman Narayana

is known for His simplicity.)

Sri Nampillai got another doubt. So he questioned the teacher.

Respected Swamin, there are 108 Divya Desas. We have to perform

pooja to all the presiding deities in all the holy shrines but we

perform pooja only to God in our house. Are we not expected to do

this service to all 108 Gods? If that is so how to do it? Is it not

humanly impossible? By offering food to one deity at our residence

are we not allowing the 108 deities starve?

Sri Nanjeeyar smiled and replied with affection "The remedy for

this, my dear son! is as follows- First of all chant the purva vakya

(i.e. the former sentence of Dwaya) .

After that and before pronouncing the uttara vakya (the latter

sentence of Dwaya) you include the word "Sarva Mangala Vigrahaya".

Now all the deities in all 108 Temples appear before you in the form

of the deity at your house. Thereby you are considered to have

performed pooja to all those deities. From this question and answer

it becomes evident to us that our illustrious Acharyas never wash

the holy feet of the deities in their respective mansions without

uttering the Dwaya Mantra. That means Dwaya Mantra stands supreme.

Q.no.4.

Sri Nampillai, one day further questioned his teacher, "Dear Swamin,

why the Lord is born in this world?" (i.e. What purpose do the

incarnations of Sriman Narayana serve).

S.N.A.-

"Oh! My dear son! The Lord takes several births in this world and

performs Herculean tasks even as a wild elephant does by dragging

huge and heavy trees. It is in order to inflict severe punishment on

those wretched souls who have committed several offences towards His

earnest devotees.

Now this answer of the Guru tempted the disciple to know what are

all the Bhagavatha Apachara (i.e. offences towards the devotees).

Accordingly he put the question to his preceptor- "what is

Bhagavatha Apachara?"

S.N.A. - The first and foremost of Bhagavatha Apachara is equating a

Srivaishnava to himself on seeing him. Why it should not be done? It

is because the Alwars have vociferously praised Sri Vaishnavas to

the skies and never equated them (SriVaishnavas) to themselves

though the Alwars are SriVaishnavas of par excellence by the

graceful blessings of Lord Sriman Narayana. By this we understand

that if we consider that SriVaishnavas are equal to us that is

Bhagavatha Apachara.

Nanjeeyar in this context quotes numerous passages from Nalayira

Divya Prabhandham of Alwars to substantiate this view. (It is better

to know it from Acharya or otherwise giving a long list of them here

will not be conducive to the narrative interest).

Once SriNanjeeyar out of unbounded affection towards SriNampillai

voluntarily came out with a great truth that should get embedded in

the hearts of all Srivaishnavas.

TO BE CONTINUED....

S. Varadarajan

Quality Manager - Prudential TCSL Relationship

Tata Consultancy Services Limited

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rationality of the thinking of our poorvacharyas and adiyen is in capable do any

more than singing pallaundu to 1) Our beloved Sri Nanjeeyar and Sri Nampillai in

the first place. 2) Sri ESB swamy to present this live commentary to the present

day world in form of nectarian upanyasams. 3) The Sri Vaishnavas who had taken

pains to bring this invaluable treasure in the form of CDs 4) Finally to Sri

Anand swamy who have taken special pains to translate this nectar and present

it to our forum to "Kuudi irunthu kulirnthu" Adiyen Ramanuja dasan, Varadaraja

dasan Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:05:35 -0000"andal_krishna"

<andal_krishna >LIFE SKETCH OF SRI NAMPILLAI - Part 2 by Sri

U.Ve. Bhuvarahacharya

SwamyPart Two of Sri Nampillai's Life SketchBy: U.Ve. Sri E.S. Bhuvarahachariar

SwamyHereafter the narrative account of Nampillai's life history is

interspersed with a series of serious questions posed by him to his revered

Acharya, Sri Nanjeeyar and the latter's crisp and clear cut answers which

dispel several doubts lingering in our mind for a very long time as a result of

which it is well nigh impossible to erase them from our poor hearts. So the

remaining part in this essay assumes greater importance. It is worthwhile to

bestow the best attention on this question and answer section.Q1. Once Sri

Nampillai questioned his preceptor " There are so many means of salvation

(upayas) prescribed by the shastras as Karma yoga, Gnana yoga, Bhakti yoga,

offering garlands to the deity Sriman Narayana, lighting lamps in His temple,

residing at the Divya Desams like Srirangam etc., chanting His sweet names,

Purushothama

vidya, the knowledge of the secret cause of Sriman Narayana's incarnations etc.,

There are also innumerable pramanas (Authoritative Supporting Statements) in the

shastras for all these upayas.The followers of these upayas (means of salvation)

are also in majority in this world. But for Saranagathi (accepting Sriman

Narayana as the sole, safe, secured means of salvation) the pramanas are less

in number and the followers are to be traced. The Rishi (sage), chandas,

devathas (the deities) are mentioned in the case of other upayas namely Karma

yoga etc., whereas they are missing in Saranagathi. Why this disparity between

the two when Saranagathi is the easiest means of salvation?Sri Nanjeeyar's

Answer (S.N.A) - There is no need for any pramana in the case of Saranagathi,

because it is something that is self-evident and therefore requires no proof or

pramana. Let me explain it by an example viz: Two men are crossing a river. One

has fallen into the depth of the river and is sinking. Does the other man go in

search of a Pramana to lift up and save the sinking one? He saves him

automatically. All the Jeevatmas who have fallen into the ocean of samsara are

equal to the sinking man. Sriman Narayana lifts them up by stretching forth his

merciful hands. Therefore it is nothing but common sense and requires no

pramana. Here are the pramanas if you still insist upon getting some pramanas.

In the Vedanta a very well known statement runs as follows:Pramana no 1."yo

Brahmanam..mumukshurvai saranamaham prapadye"(sweta asvatara Upanishad)Meaning:

("First of all Sriman Narayana created Brahma. He taught him the entire Vedas.

He has given me the clear knowledge with reference to Him. I take refuge under

Him desiring salvation" says Veda Purusha.)Pramana no 2."Tasmath Nyasa mesham

Tapasam Atriktham Ahu:"(Taitriya Narayana -

50)Meaning:("Therefore this Nyasa namely Saranagathi excels all other

penances")Pramana no 3."Nyasa Ithyahuhu maneeshino Brahmanam"(Taitriya Narayana

- 50)Meaning:(Wise men declare that Saranagathi is the Brahman (Sriman Narayana)

Himself)Pramana no 4."Nikshepa aparaparyayo Nyasa: PanchangasamyuthaSanyas:

styaga ithyuktha saranagathirithyapi"(Lakshmi Tantram

17-74)Meaning:(Surrendering to God (nikshepa) has five accessories. The word

"nikshepa" has several synonyms like Nyasa, Sanyasa, thyaga and

Saranagathi.Thus pramanas are readily available and they are also many. There

is no dearth of such pramanas.You should not judge the superiority of other

upayas by the majority of people opting for them. Among the worldly men only

some can become sanyasins on that score can you say that the sanyasins are

inferior to others?I will give you another example (said

Nanjeeyar)"Jyothishtomena Suvarga Kamo yajetha" is a Vedic statement. This means

perform a sacrifice by name Jyothishoma if you wish to reach Heaven (Indra's

world) and enjoy celestial pleasures there. But not everyone performs the

sacrifice. Very few interested in reaching heaven perform it. Do you mean to

say that those few men are inferior to others? Certainly not.Comparatively

speaking that the pleasures in Indra's world is far inferior to the

indescribable unimaginable and endless pleasures of Sri Vaikuntam, the heavenly

abode of Sriman Narayana. In the case of Swarga (Indra's abode) the pleasures

are limited and have an end. Those who go there return to this mortal world

after exhausting their punyas (merits) whereas those who go to Vaikunta Loka

will never return. Only very few people are interested in going to swarga

(Indra Loka) even though all people come to know that pleasures of heaven are

most enjoyable and

superior. That being the case there is no wonder if a very few people resort to

Saranagathi. Therefore the majority or the minority of followers does not

decide the issue. Hence the greatness of Saranagathi cannot be measured or

estimated by the availability of numerous pramanas or by the majority of people

opting for it.Oh! Nampillai, you asked me another question -Why there is no

prescription of Rishi, Chandas, and Devatha etc in the case of Saranagathi. We

find them in the case of other upayas. The answer is this. "Rishya adheencha

Karanyasam Anganyasancha Varjayet". This is a famous dictum ruling out the

prescription of Rishi etc., Anganyasa, and Karanyasa, which are laid down as

accessories for other upayas. Hence you find the surrenderers not desiring all

preliminary rites. I wish to add one thing more. The lord who is Saranya has an

aversion to accept any kind of assistance while saving the surrenderer. He is

called

Nirapeksha upaya. This is the meaning of "Eka" sabda in "Sarvadharman Parityajya

Mam Ekam Saranam Vraja" (Nirapeksha upaya means he does not expect any other

help in salvaging the souls of this world. That being the case with regard to

the Lord there is no wonder that the saranagathi, which is synonymous with Him,

will also not tolerate Anganyasa, Karanyasa etc., This is my strong

faith.Nampillai listened to his Acharya with rapt attention and thought that he

was very fortunate in getting such a holy preceptor.Q.no 2.Nampillai asked his

teacher:"How can a man understand that he has the qualities of a Srivaishnava?"

(It means what are the special identifying characteristics of a

Srivaishnava)S.N.A - a. If a man comes to know that the Lord Sriman Narayana in

his Archavatara (in his idol form in temples and other places) does possess all

his supreme powers as in Srivaikunta Loka, He can consider himself to be a

Srivaishnava (That means it is very difficult for an ordinary person to have

great faith in Archavatara. The moment he thinks that Archavatara has both

paratva and soulabhya he becomes a Srivaishnava. Archavatara Pravanya as

Thirumangai Alwar possessed is a very important criterion for a Srivaishnava,

which is very difficult to get)b. A man in general loves his son and wife very

dearly. If he possesses that much love and affection towards a Srivaishnava, he

can consider himself as included in the list of Srivaishnavas. (The man is

expected to shower more love on a Srivaishnava than he does toward his family

members. Here it is amusing to see that some concession is allowed by Sri

Nanjeeyar.)c. When abused by a Srivaishnava, if a man does not become angry,

but on the contrary receives his wrathful words with a cheerful countenance and

as an enjoyable pleasure he is a Srivaishnava.Therefore a man should possess

these three

important qualities as explained before. They are 1.Archaavatara Paratva

Buddhi2.Bhagavatha Prema3.Bhagavatha Katinokthi Bhogyatha BuddhiIf any one

after close examination of him finds that he is in possession of these three

virtues, he can conclude within himself that he is a Srivaishnava (Author's

note: Please check yourself)Q.no.3 Sri Nampillai was studying Sri Bhashyam

(Sanskrit commentary of Sri Ramanuja on Brahma Sutras composed by Vyasa) under

the guidance of Sri Nanjeeyar. At that time the food was ready for the offering

of the Lord. Sri Nanjeeyar was informed about this so that he may perform

"Tiruvaradhanam"(Pooja) to his deity at his mansion. The teacher ordered the

pupil, Sri Nampillai to perform the pooja. The disciple respectfully and humbly

told the teacher that he was ignorant of the manner of performing as it would by

performed by his Acharya. The teacher quipped, "Do you think that I know very

well the procedure? Can you not simply chant the second half of Dwaya Mantra

(Srimathe Naraayanaya Namaha) and wash the holy feet of the Lord. (The idol

called Chokka Thevar at my residence) and offer the cooked food to him with due

respect (Note - This answer points towards the Saulabhya of the Lord unlike the

demigods. It is easy to satisfy him by a very simple Pooja. No elaborate and

painful procedure is needed "parivadil eeshan" says Sri Nammazhwar in his

Tiruvaimozhi. Parivatu means distressing, painful and agonizing procedure of

pooja. Il means there is not. The Lord, Sriman Narayana is known for His

simplicity.)Sri Nampillai got another doubt. So he questioned the teacher.

Respected Swamin, there are 108 Divya Desas. We have to perform pooja to all

the presiding deities in all the holy shrines but we perform pooja only to God

in our house. Are we not expected to do this service to all 108 Gods? If that

is so how to

do it? Is it not humanly impossible? By offering food to one deity at our

residence are we not allowing the 108 deities starve?Sri Nanjeeyar smiled and

replied with affection "The remedy for this, my dear son! is as follows- First

of all chant the purva vakya (i.e. the former sentence of Dwaya) . After that

and before pronouncing the uttara vakya (the latter sentence of Dwaya) you

include the word "Sarva Mangala Vigrahaya". Now all the deities in all 108

Temples appear before you in the form of the deity at your house. Thereby you

are considered to have performed pooja to all those deities. From this question

and answer it becomes evident to us that our illustrious Acharyas never wash the

holy feet of the deities in their respective mansions without uttering the Dwaya

Mantra. That means Dwaya Mantra stands supreme.Q.no.4. Sri Nampillai, one day

further questioned his teacher, "Dear Swamin, why the Lord is born in

this world?" (i.e. What purpose do the incarnations of Sriman Narayana

serve).S.N.A.-"Oh! My dear son! The Lord takes several births in this world and

performs Herculean tasks even as a wild elephant does by dragging huge and heavy

trees. It is in order to inflict severe punishment on those wretched souls who

have committed several offences towards His earnest devotees.Now this answer of

the Guru tempted the disciple to know what are all the Bhagavatha Apachara (i.e.

offences towards the devotees). Accordingly he put the question to his

preceptor- "what is Bhagavatha Apachara?"S.N.A. - The first and foremost of

Bhagavatha Apachara is equating a Srivaishnava to himself on seeing him. Why it

should not be done? It is because the Alwars have vociferously praised Sri

Vaishnavas to the skies and never equated them (SriVaishnavas) to themselves

though the Alwars are SriVaishnavas of par excellence by the graceful

blessings of Lord Sriman Narayana. By this we understand that if we consider

that SriVaishnavas are equal to us that is Bhagavatha Apachara.Nanjeeyar in

this context quotes numerous passages from Nalayira Divya Prabhandham of Alwars

to substantiate this view. (It is better to know it from Acharya or otherwise

giving a long list of them here will not be conducive to the narrative

interest).Once SriNanjeeyar out of unbounded affection towards SriNampillai

voluntarily came out with a great truth that should get embedded in the hearts

of all Srivaishnavas.TO BE CONTINUED....S. VaradarajanQuality Manager -

Prudential TCSL RelationshipTata Consultancy Services LimitedMailto:

s.varadarajan (AT) tcs (DOT) comWebsite: http://www.tcs.com Notice: The information

contained in this e-mail message and/or

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