Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 & family , padmanaabhan and so on , the Giants of !! can you shed some light on it. The wording goes like this. 10.10.7 ( Yenathu aaviyei, in-uyirai manakaaraamai manni undittaaay ..) looks easy at reading...right. vyaakyaanam is tough !!! The complexity goes like this . P.B.A swamy says that in this context .., Aavi is different from uyir. and he frequently uses the word Prakruthi and moola prakruthi...( Are we composed of 4 entities such as chith, achith,prakruthi,aathma vasthu ? ) To some extent , i was able to understand that we all came from a single Golden egg shell called moola prakruthi. what is moola prakruthi ? If i understand these concepts the origin of infinite number of souls can be clearly sketch able !! Core References : 1. Yen perukku il an-nalathu , Thiru-vaai mozhi Ref 1.2 deriving from the above ., Raamanusa Nootranthathi goes like this... 2. karuthariya-par-pal-uyir-kalum , pallu ulagu yaavum ... , - Raamanusa Nootranthathi - amuthanaar Thanks for your input. Adiyaen - maaran's dog Find your next car at Canada Autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Dear SwAmi, I will come to each point separately. Meanwhile, although we have not met, you seem to have met me, as you have described as giant- perhaps observing the physcial structure. 1.There are three thatvam-s only. Chith, achith and Eswaran. 2.The ninth pAsuram of the final ThriuvAimozhi is the main subject matter. EDu: mudhal- thani-vithu--> The Lord is cause for all the three worlds. Then why three words-mudhal, thani and vithu -He is the three type of causes. mudhal thani vunnai--> He is not only the cause of the three Worlds, He is the prime holder of auspicious qualities GuNA vibHuthi. vunnai ena nAL kUDuvan nAn--> The EmperumAn being the prime mover and cause of the worlds and pervasive is general to one and all. For AzhwAr, of course, wants special unique visiin which is available in ThirunADu with pirATTi and nithya-sUri-s. This is the 'vunai ena-nAL vandhu kUDuvan nAn. 3. mudhal thani angum ingum muzhu muRRuruvAi pAzhAi --The third line talks about the lElA vibhUthi 's achith thathvam comprising of five sensory organs, five pancha bhUtham-s , the effect of sensory organs, the presence of attribute of pancha bhUtham-s -panchEvadhikaraNam - in other four and the roots of these mahathAdhigaL. EmprumAn being the inner governor of these -being all pervasive is reflected from this line . 4. mudhal thani suzhndhaganRu Azhndhu vuyarndha mudivilE ---> Being not just pervasive of these prakruthith thathvam, the Almighty is surrounding in all directions by knowledge and stands tall as a inner governor of the chith. Thus it will be seen that the Esvaran is described as inner governor of achith thathvam (the lElA vibuthi part) in the third line and that of chith thathvam in the fourth line. Summary: AzhwAr realises that the Lord is all pervasive , three causes of the whole world, the inner governor of lElA vibhUthi and also of the souls. However, not satisfied on this General realisation, He yearns for the EmprumAn at the Highest altar of Parmapadham - with pirATTi. I am just leaving for Hyderabad and will continue on this in a couple of days dAsan vanamamalai padmanabhan - Maaran's Dog Ramanuja ; oppili appam ; n.ranganathan Sunday, February 26, 2006 12:40 PM What is Moola prakruthi ? Ref 10.10.7 , 10.10.9 & also from 10.1 Thaala Thamarai Shri: Adiyaen;s Pranaams & Dhanyoshmin Can any one of you explain what is meant by moola prakruthi. please pardon my ignorance . i got this word from P.B.A Swamy vyaakyaanam book. Ref: 10.10.9 (muthal thani vithayyo... ) i am finding very very difficult to understand the P.B.A swaamy vyaakyaanam itself. so unclear, confusing after reading this for 10 times. Dear T.C.A , Shrimathi Sumitra & family , padmanaabhan and so on , the Giants of !! can you shed some light on it. The wording goes like this. 10.10.7 ( Yenathu aaviyei, in-uyirai manakaaraamai manni undittaaay ..) looks easy at reading...right. vyaakyaanam is tough !!! The complexity goes like this .. P.B.A swamy says that in this context .., Aavi is different from uyir. and he frequently uses the word Prakruthi and moola prakruthi...( Are we composed of 4 entities such as chith, achith,prakruthi,aathma vasthu ? ) To some extent , i was able to understand that we all came from a single Golden egg shell called moola prakruthi. what is moola prakruthi ? If i understand these concepts the origin of infinite number of souls can be clearly sketch able !! Core References : 1. Yen perukku il an-nalathu , Thiru-vaai mozhi Ref 1.2 deriving from the above ., Raamanusa Nootranthathi goes like this... 2. karuthariya-par-pal-uyir-kalum , pallu ulagu yaavum .... , - Raamanusa Nootranthathi - amuthanaar Thanks for your input. Adiyaen - maaran's dog Find your next car at Canada Autos[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 sri: Here is a little that adiyen' has been taught. Moola prakruthi is the original substance from which this world is created. This has all the 3 gunas (Sattva, Rajas and Tamas) For eg: For all sweets the original ingrident is Sugar, For all jewels in a jwellery shop it is gold, Similarly in this world, the original ingrident is knows as the Mula Prakruthi. Moola Prakruthi is created by the LORD. and it is considered to be constantly changing, under its influence we are caught in the samsaric cycle. We get out of this only by the Grace of the Lord. [ref: Vaikuntha Sthavam] [Vedartha Samgraham] [TVmozhi] ===================================== Ramanuja Dasan, Mukundan V. Pattangi May we always be in HIS grace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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