Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 Question: Can intellectual denial of the apparent world, eventually lead to realization that the world is 'unreal'? jai guru datta, pradyumna Latest News and Additions http://www.dattapeetham.com/additions/new.html Upcomming events at Datta Temple and Hall of Trinity, Baton Rouge, LA http://www.dattatemple.com/uevents.htm Post message: JAIGURUDATTA Subscribe: JAIGURUDATTA- Un: JAIGURUDATTA ------ There are 3 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. I want some information Satyavathi Mukkamalla 2. CH 5, Verse 7 Bhagavad Gita 3. Apavada - Denial of the Apparent World "Swamiji Says" ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Satyavathi Mukkamalla I want some information jai gurudatta, I want to send a mail to sri guruji, so please send me his email ID. thank you very much HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Bhagavad Gita CH 5, Verse 7 Chapter 5 Verse 7 Yoga-yukto vishuddh'aatmaa vijit aatmaa jit'endriyah / sarva-bhuutaatma-bhuutaatmaa kurvann api na lipyate // Established in yoga of action, with mind purified, the body controlled and senses subdued, one who realizes one’s self as the self in all beings, though acting is not tainted. LESSONS FROM BHAGAVAD GITA – 47 As taught by Parama Pujya Sri Swamiji Compiled by: Swami Dattananda Bhakti Mala, November 1996 “Established in yoga of action, with mind purified, the body controlled and senses subdued, one who realizes one’s self as the self in all beings, though acting is not tainted.” In this verse, the qualities of a person who is not tainted by the works he does are described. First of all, he is well established in the path of Karma Yoga. Any work that comes to his lot he does in the spirit of Yoga. Not only that, his whole life’s activities are full of the spirit of Yoga. Secondly, he is pure in mind (Visuddhatma.) In the beginning, his mind may be vacillating here and there due to the force of his tendencies. But gradually, by the sincere practice of Karma Yoga he will be able to free his mind from all selfish desires and make it steady and pure. Third qualification is that he is one who has controlled his body and sense organs (vijatatma and jitendriya.) Practice of Karma Yoga leads to purity which in turn leads to control of the body and sense organs. And lastly, as a result of the utmost purity attained and his body and organs coming under his perfect control, he finds that his Self has become the Self of all beings, from Brahma to clumps of grass. As a result of his realization of the oneness of his Self with the Self of others, he extends his love to all beings. He does not injure anyone in thought, word and deed. He loves all. As such, he is devoted to the welfare of all beings. Such a person of the aforesaid qualities, living and working for the world’s well being, is not tainted. That is to say that he is not tainted by his works. The idea is, the man who has purified himself by practicing Karma Yoga realizes the truth that his Self is the Self of all and the Self of all is the same. Even after this realization, he may continue to perform actions aimed at the welfare of his fellow beings. But though ever doing a number of actions, he is not affected by the merit or demerit of those actions. That means he becomes free from the bonds of action. He also realizes that, although he does actions, he does not act in the real sense. HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:55:38 -0700 "Swamiji Says" Apavada - Denial of the Apparent World Jaya Guru Datta, Here is today's saying: “Similarly, realising that there is no snake (different from the rope) and what is causing the fear is only a piece of rope (in the Snake - Rope illusion) is Apavada. These are illustrations (Drishtantas). In our context (Daarshtaantika), it was shown that the creation was imposed upon Brahman. An intelligent person will be able to realise that what is apparent in the form of the visible universe is not real and will therefore deny the existence of the world. Denial here means rejecting its truthfulness. Such denial of the apparent world is called as Apavada." Sri Swamij Lessons in Vedanta - 24 Part IV Sri Guru Datta, Swamiji Says ________ Outgrown your current e-mail service? Get a 25MB Inbox, POP3 Access, No Ads and No Taglines with LYCOS MAIL PLUS. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus ______________________ ______________________ Your use of is subject to HotJobs, a service - Search Thousands of New Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 i would say: no jgd, carolin > Question: > Can intellectual denial of the apparent world, eventually lead to > realization that the world is 'unreal'? > jai guru datta, > pradyumna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 A quote from Bhaktimala july 2002, Drops of Nectar: .... Yogi: With the help of what faculty are you seeing, listening, studying and thinking? Scholar: With the help of the mind Yogi: What I did was, I forgot the mind completely. Immediately Mother Goddess taught me lessons. ... jgd carolin > Question: > Can intellectual denial of the apparent world, eventually lead to > realization that the world is 'unreal'? > jai guru datta, > pradyumna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 Praveen has given an excellent comment! one finds the same on dattapeetham.com/talks: .... The end of wisdom is freedom. > The end of culture is perfection. > The end of education is character. > The end of knowledge is Love. ... > > Mere book learning leads the aspirant nowhere, > whereas the intuitive > knowledge makes him consonant with the Reality and > the dream and the delusion > of the earth-bound life is transcended. ... > > ... > The existence of God can only be realised by > persistant effort, personal > experience and intensive feeling. ... > > Once the "I" in you is erased, you become one with > God. For He is the only > Reality. You see Him in all humanity. jgd carolin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 Pradyumna, Jaya Guru Datta! Here's my humble opinion: As we all know, the intellect tries to "distinguish" or "discern" the dualities caused by the "unreal" world formed by the five elements of nature by comprehending the universe through the five senses. Hence the only way it can reach the realization OR should I say, conclusion/inference that the world is unreal is through "affected" thinking... via a book or a noble person's (or Guru's) teachings/influence... which is definitely not realization but only an inference or confirmation of an earlier study/learning. One can ONLY understand/comprehend the concept of the fleeting nature of the world and its "unreal" nature (not with the mind BUT) only by transcending beyond the five senses, mind, intellect and ego (identification with the self)... which is by reaching the "atma"tatva, which is our true form/nature. In essence, what I am trying to say is that the true nature of the world OR for that matter, its existence, or lack thereof can only be discerned by our SELF and not by any of its other inferior manifestations through the intellect, mind, ego or the five senses. At this juncture, there is no difference between the SELF (I) and Guru/God. We all merge into ONE CONSCIOUSNESS, which exposes the ABSOLUTE truths of the universe... the first of which is the "unreal/fleeting/ephemeral" nature of this world bound by the time-space continuum. Jai Guru Datta! Praveen Nidumolu. --- Pradyumna Upadrashta <oneinfinitezero wrote: > > Question: > Can intellectual denial of the apparent world, > eventually lead to realization that the world is > 'unreal'? > jai guru datta, > pradyumna HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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