Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Jaya Guru Datta, Here is today's saying: “Keeping in view all these aspects, is it justified to say that sorrow is natural to the Jeevi and that he perishes? Will it not amount to rejecting the experience of elders, soundness of the logic and authenticity of the Vedas? Let us theorise like this - ‘although Jeevi is imperishable, sorrow is natural to him. But the sorrow is not permanent. Therefore it is possible to eradicate his sorrow with proper effort. What is wrong with this theory? This is even more strange. Will you call an object which has lost all its heat as cinder? Will you call an object as candy if it is not at all sweet? No. That is not the idea. A wizard can hold burning cinder in his hands. Not only that, he even places it in your hand. It does not hurt. Do you mean to say that it is not fire at all? A snake charmer makes the snake sniff a particular herb and takes the snake in his hand. It does not bite him. Even if it bites, it does not poison him. Do you mean to say that it is not a snake at all? Similarly, a Jeeva will get over sorrow with the help of the power of Yoga, power of Karma and power of worship. He will then be able to - as mentioned in the Vedas and Shastras - overcome sorrow and experience happiness. What is wrong with this theory? The inconsistency is evident in the examples. Although the effect of the herb can prevent snake bite or its poisoning effect and the wizardry can prevent fire from hurting the person, as soon as their effect diminishes, the fire will display its true nature that is, burning. The snake will exhibit its natural tendency - that is, biting. Similarly, although sorrow can be temporarily overcome by the practice of Yoga or by worshipping, because it is natural to him, it will surface as soon as the effect of Yoga diminishes." Jaya Guru Datta, Here is today's saying: “Keeping in view all these aspects, is it justified to say that sorrow is natural to the Jeevi and that he perishes? Will it not amount to rejecting the experience of elders, soundness of the logic and authenticity of the Vedas? Let us theorise like this - ‘although Jeevi is imperishable, sorrow is natural to him. But the sorrow is not permanent. Therefore it is possible to eradicate his sorrow with proper effort. What is wrong with this theory? This is even more strange. Will you call an object which has lost all its heat as cinder? Will you call an object as candy if it is not at all sweet? No. That is not the idea. A wizard can hold burning cinder in his hands. Not only that, he even places it in your hand. It does not hurt. Do you mean to say that it is not fire at all? A snake charmer makes the snake sniff a particular herb and takes the snake in his hand. It does not bite him. Even if it bites, it does not poison him. Do you mean to say that it is not a snake at all? Similarly, a Jeeva will get over sorrow with the help of the power of Yoga, power of Karma and power of worship. He will then be able to - as mentioned in the Vedas and Shastras - overcome sorrow and experience happiness. What is wrong with this theory? The inconsistency is evident in the examples. Although the effect of the herb can prevent snake bite or its poisoning effect and the wizardry can prevent fire from hurting the person, as soon as their effect diminishes, the fire will display its true nature that is, burning. The snake will exhibit its natural tendency - that is, biting. Similarly, although sorrow can be temporarily overcome by the practice of Yoga or by worshipping, because it is natural to him, it will surface as soon as the effect of Yoga diminishes. By taking medicines for a long time, many diseases can be cured. Similarly is it not possible to overcome sorrow by constant practise of Yoga?" Sri Swamiji Lessons in Vedanta - 31 part VI Bhakti Mala, May, 1998 Sri Guru Datta, Swamiji Says Sri Swamiji Lessons in Vedanta - 31 part VI Bhakti Mala, May, 1998 Sri Guru Datta, Swamiji Says __________ Tired of all the SPAM in your inbox? Switch to LYCOS MAIL PLUS http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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