Guest guest Posted November 24, 2002 Report Share Posted November 24, 2002 Jaya Guru Datta, Here is today's saying: "Question. Wait a minute! Atma appears to be an Akarta during Sushupti because, during that period such of the components of Atma which are necessary for the manifestation of doership are not present. Consider the example of a brave soldier. When he has a sword in his hand, his bravery manifests and he will be able to tackle hundreds of people. But he will not be sporting a sword all the time. For example, when he eating, we can not see his bravery. But it does not mean that he is not brave! Similarly, in the state of Sushupti, because the connection between the Indriyas and the Atma is severed, the doership of Atma can not be appreciated. Answer. Such a situation is not peculiar only to the state of Sushupti. Even when a person is in the wakeful state, when he is sitting idly, thinking nothing, he will not be doing anything (he will be a non-doer then). In such a state, the contact between the Atma and the Indriyas and Antahkaranas is intact. Still, one cannot appreciate doership of that person. What should we call this state as? There is only one way to explain this. One should realise that the Kartritva (doership) is of the Indriyas. Because of Adhyaasa (superimposing) man attributes doership to Atma. He then thinks 'I am the doer'. In the example of the boy in the train, the boy imposes the attribute namely movement (which belongs to him) on the trees and imposes on himself the static nature of the trees. Such act of imposing is called Adhyaasa. Therefore, there will be no inconsistency if we say that the Kartritva infact belongs to the Indriyas and that because of Adhyaasa, the person attributes doership to the Atma. If we accept this logic, the seeming paradox about the non-manifestation of doership of Atma during Sushupti does not arise at all, because Kartritva is not the nature of Atma. There will not be any contradiction to the fact that Atma is devoid of modifications. There will be no disagreement to the dictum about the nature of Atma - 'Saakshee chetaa kevalo nirgunashcha' (Atma is absolute, a witness, of the nature of consciousness, one without a second and devoid of attributes). It will also not contradict the experience - 'I am the doer' because, it has been said that the experience of doership is indeed present, but it is merely an imposed one. It can therefore be said with certainty that the Kartritva (doership) pertains to the Indriyas." Sri Swamiji Lessons in Vedanta - 35 part VI Bhakti Mala, November 1998 Sri Guru Datta, Swamiji Says ___________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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