Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 Since there is such a raging debate -- do puja with ladoo's -- I doubt Ganapathy will complain. If ladoo's don't work, I suggest some soni papadi. jai guru datta! pradyumna JAIGURUDATTA wrote:Latest News and Additions http://www.dattapeetham.com/additions/new.html Upcomming events at Datta Temple and Hall of Trinity, Baton Rouge, LA http://www.dattatemple.com/uevents.htm Post message: JAIGURUDATTA Subscribe: JAIGURUDATTA- Un: JAIGURUDATTA ------ There are 7 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Tulasi leaves Pradyumna Upadrashta 2. CH 9, Verse 2 Bhagavad Gita 3. Understanding Scripture "Swamiji Says" 4. Re: Re: Tulasi leaves Winand Abhelakh 5. Re: Re: Tulasi leaves "Daria" 6. Datta Avadhoota Satsang Sabhaa Atlanta "Datta Technologies " 7. Re: Re: Tulasi leaves Satyam Upadrashta ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 04:50:39 -0800 (PST) Pradyumna Upadrashta Re: Tulasi leaves The external forms of worship -- including worship using tulasi leaves, are only to inspire your internal worship. Whether you worship with tulsi or with air, it makes no difference -- the difference is the purity with which you offer. A tulasi leaf offered in anger, is offensive; but dung offered out of devotional love/forgetfulness becomes holy. There is no greater secret than this. A secret soon forgotten remains eternally secret. Jai Guru Datta! ______________________________ The centipede was happy quite until a bird said, in fun, "Which foot goes after which?" This raised his mind to such a pitch he lay distracted in a ditch considering how to run. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:18:22 -0800 (PST) Bhagavad Gita CH 9, Verse 2 Chapter 9 Verse 2 Raaja-vidyaa raaja-guhyam pavitram idam uttamam / pratyaksh'aavagamam dharmya.n susukham kartum avyayam // This (the knowledge of Brahman) is the sovereign science, the sovereign secret, the supreme purifier, immediately comprehensible, unopposed to Dharma, imperishable and very easy to perform. LESSONS FROM BHAGAVAD GITA – 84 As taught by Parama Pujya Sri Swamiji "This (the knowledge of Brahman) is the sovereign science, the sovereign secret, the supreme purifier, immediately comprehensible, unopposed to Dharma, imperishable and very easy to perform." The knowledge of Brahman is the sovereign science, or the king among all sciences, (Raja Vidya,) as it is the highest knowledge and is full of radiance. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:43:47 -0800 "Swamiji Says" Understanding Scripture Jaya Guru Datta, Here is today's saying: "In the case of a simple sentence like 'it is poison', we could understand the purport with the help of the situation. In the case of a friend who is narrating his hardships, we can not understand only with the help of the situation. We need to consider many other aspects. If so much of thinking is required to analyse the purport of a small story (like that of the friend), imagine how difficult it is to understand different aspects explained in a great scripture. When we engage in discussion and analysis of different aspects mentioned in great scriptures, it is not easy to verify if we are proceeding in the right direction. Therefore, men of wisdom have devised six different tests to understand the purport of a scripture. Collectively, they are called as 'Shadvidha Linga'. Linga means sign or characteristic. The purport of a scripture should be understood with the help of six characters. The purport of the scripture itself is the intention of its author." Sri Swamiji Lessons in Vedanta - 38 part IX Bhakti Mala, March 1999 Sri Guru Datta, Swamiji Says ___________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:29:47 -0800 (PST) Winand Abhelakh Re: Re: Tulasi leaves Sri Guru Datta Yess..I know some people who really make a fuzz about it. The say in the ganapati khanda of the brahmavaivarta purana there it clearly says that Ganeshji dont want tulsi. Then again i know of people who do use tulsi to worship Ganeshji. Does anyone know Sri Swamiji's(Ganeshji in disguise) words on this? And does anyone know the subbtle meaning? I've pasted 3 findings ..please enjoy. Jai Gurudeva Datta, Win. While white flowers are ideal for worship, coloured flowers are not so sacred for worship. Lotuses, Jasmines and some other such flowers are good; ....... Ganapati is not to be worshipped with Tulsi, ......... and Devi is not to be worshiped with Garika. Maredu (Bilwa) is dear Shiva and Tulsi for Vishnu. After the offerings of flowers, Dhoopa has to be offered. During the Puja, appropriate Mantras and prayers are to be recited with full devotion. ....................................................... Bron: http://guru-charitra.shreeswami.org/sri-guru-charitra-chapter-37.htm Ramana Gopal Ganapathiraju (ramana) wrote: : In article , : anand hudli wrote: : > Yes, I am aware of the prohibition of tulasi leaves in the worship : > of Ganesha. Bilva leaves are fine. One of the names of Ganesha is : > duurvaabilvapriya. The arka flowers are supposed to be a favorite : > of Narasimha as well. : i am quoting from Vinayaka vrata kalpam used almost over entire : andhra on ganesh chaturdhi: : athaika vimsathi patra pooja - sumukhaya namaha maachi patram : poojayaami, ganadhipaaya namaha brihathi patram, umaaputraaya : bilva patram, ....... gajakarnaaya tulasi patram, ekadantaaya : chuta patram ...... sri ganeswaraaya ekavimsathi pathrani O_z : poojayaami. : so i do not know where from the custom of prohibition to use : tulasi for ganesh has come, since the above clearly shows : that tulasi is one of the approved leaves for worshiping : ganesha. .... Actually, the tulsi leaves, I think are exclusively used for the worship of Sri Vishnu. This custom owes its existence to a tale in Vishnu Purana, where, the Lord granted this boon to Tulsi, (wife of demon Shankh- Chura), whose satitva was taken away by the Lord. As a consolation, the Lord said that His worship will remain incomplete, if it did not involve Tulsi (a symbol of satitva) and shanka (conch), since it is said that the bones of ShankhaChura became conch. -- Nachiketa Tiwari Source: http://www.hindunet.org/srh_home/1996_10/msg00173.html .... The Story of Tulasi Devi http://www.hknet.org.nz/parishad95.htm .... .. ... ... .. Pradyumna Upadrashta wrote: The external forms of worship -- including worship using tulasi leaves, are only to inspire your internal worship. Whether you worship with tulsi or with air, it makes no difference -- the difference is the purity with which you offer. A tulasi leaf offered in anger, is offensive; but dung offered out of devotional love/forgetfulness becomes holy. There is no greater secret than this. A secret soon forgotten remains eternally secret. Jai Guru Datta! ______________________________ The centipede was happy quite until a bird said, in fun, "Which foot goes after which?" This raised his mind to such a pitch he lay distracted in a ditch considering how to run. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Latest News and Additions http://www.dattapeetham.com/additions/new.html Upcomming events at Datta Temple and Hall of Trinity, Baton Rouge, LA http://www.dattatemple.com/uevents.htm Post message: JAIGURUDATTA Subscribe: JAIGURUDATTA- Un: JAIGURUDATTA Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:00:46 -0800 "Daria" Re: Re: Tulasi leaves Jai Guru Datta, Several years ago a group of devotees published a tape in Tamil about the greatness of Tulsi pooja.. I don't know if that tape is still available or if there or any translations of it...perhaps some devotees remember...the address for contacting about the tape at the time of its release was: Gnana Bodha Sabha, No 1, jalan SM2, Taman Sri Manja, 46000 Petaling Jaya. Also, there is a small booklet that was published in 1982 in the US by Sri Shirdi Sai Publications, PO Box 2272, Morgantown, WV 26505 about Tulsi. It is called "Basil Plant (Tulasi Plant) Worship Among the World." I don't know if it's still available, but it is a nice booklet containing lots of information about Tulasi and its worship. Hope that helps....by the way, the only thing it says in the booklet about Ganapati is "Ganesh will not be worshipped with Tulasi except on Vinayaka Chaturthi. ... Sri Guru Datta, Daria Woodside Baton Rouge, LA. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:55:17 -0000 "Datta Technologies " Datta Avadhoota Satsang Sabhaa Atlanta Jai Guru Datta !!! Attention Georgia and Alabama Devotees Announcing monthly Bhajans in the Atlanta Area on the last Sunday of every month: For information contact: Dinesh Sthanki 678-423-0605 Note: This phone number is different fromn the one on the dycusa site. For online Arti and Flower offerings to Datta click on the following link http://www.blessingsonthenet.com/virtual%20darshan/dhtml%2Fdatta% 2Ehtml Jai Guru Datta !!! ______________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:38:46 -0500 Satyam Upadrashta Re: Re: Tulasi leaves Dear fellow devotees, Sri Sadgurubhyonnamaha! Jaya guru Datta! To the best I know, Lord Ganapathi may be worshipped with Tulasi leaves ONLY on GANESHA CHTURTHI day. To bring some clarity to the issue and find out the reason why Tulasi can't be used to worship Lord Ganapthi on other days, I am requesting Sri VAMSHI KRISHNA GHANAPATHI from Sri Swamiji's ashram in Mysore to comment. Sri Guru Datta! Satyam Upadrashta New Jersey - "Winand Abhelakh" To: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:29 PM Re: Re: Tulasi leaves > > Sri Guru Datta > Yess..I know some people who really make a fuzz about it. The say in the ganapati khanda of the brahmavaivarta purana there it clearly says that Ganeshji dont want tulsi. Then again i know of people who do use tulsi to worship Ganeshji. Does anyone know Sri Swamiji's(Ganeshji in disguise) words on this? And does anyone know the subbtle meaning? I've pasted 3 findings ...please enjoy. > Jai Gurudeva Datta, Win. > > > > While white flowers are ideal for worship, coloured flowers are not so sacred for worship. Lotuses, Jasmines and some other such flowers are good; > > ...... > > Ganapati is not to be worshipped with Tulsi, > > ........ > > and Devi is not to be worshiped with Garika. Maredu (Bilwa) is dear Shiva and Tulsi for Vishnu. After the offerings of flowers, Dhoopa has to be offered. During the Puja, appropriate Mantras and prayers are to be recited with full devotion. > > ...................................................... > > Bron: > http://guru-charitra.shreeswami.org/sri-guru-charitra-chapter-37.htm > > Ramana Gopal Ganapathiraju (ramana) wrote: > : In article , > : anand hudli wrote: > : > Yes, I am aware of the prohibition of tulasi leaves in the worship > : > of Ganesha. Bilva leaves are fine. One of the names of Ganesha is > : > duurvaabilvapriya. The arka flowers are supposed to be a favorite > : > of Narasimha as well. > > : i am quoting from Vinayaka vrata kalpam used almost over entire > : andhra on ganesh chaturdhi: > > : athaika vimsathi patra pooja - sumukhaya namaha maachi patram > : poojayaami, ganadhipaaya namaha brihathi patram, umaaputraaya > : bilva patram, ....... gajakarnaaya tulasi patram, ekadantaaya > : chuta patram ...... sri ganeswaraaya ekavimsathi pathrani O_z > : poojayaami. > > : so i do not know where from the custom of prohibition to use > : tulasi for ganesh has come, since the above clearly shows > : that tulasi is one of the approved leaves for worshiping > : ganesha. > > ... > Actually, the tulsi leaves, I think are exclusively used > for the worship of Sri Vishnu. This custom owes its > existence to a tale in Vishnu Purana, where, the Lord > granted this boon to Tulsi, (wife of demon Shankh- > Chura), whose satitva was taken away by the Lord. As > a consolation, the Lord said that His worship will > remain incomplete, if it did not involve Tulsi > (a symbol of satitva) and shanka (conch), since it > is said that the bones of ShankhaChura became conch. > > -- > Nachiketa Tiwari > > Source: http://www.hindunet.org/srh_home/1996_10/msg00173.html > > > > ... > The Story of Tulasi Devi > > http://www.hknet.org.nz/parishad95.htm > > ... > . > .. > .. > . > > > > > Pradyumna Upadrashta wrote: > The external forms of worship -- including worship using tulasi leaves, are only to inspire your internal worship. Whether you worship with tulsi or with air, it makes no difference -- the difference is the purity with which you offer. A tulasi leaf offered in anger, is offensive; but dung offered out of devotional love/forgetfulness becomes holy. There is no greater secret than this. A secret soon forgotten remains eternally secret. > Jai Guru Datta! > > > ______________________________ > The centipede was happy quite > until a bird said, in fun, > "Which foot goes after which?" > This raised his mind to such a pitch > he lay distracted in a ditch > considering how to run. > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > > > > Sponsor > > Latest News and Additions http://www.dattapeetham.com/additions/new.html > > Upcomming events at Datta Temple and Hall of Trinity, Baton Rouge, LA > http://www.dattatemple.com/uevents.htm > > Post message: JAIGURUDATTA > Subscribe: JAIGURUDATTA- > Un: JAIGURUDATTA > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 Jgd, Ofcourse Prad ...but i'm interested in the "subbtle" meaning. Subbtle like Sri Rama =Atma, Sita Mata= Mind, their coming together = very beautiful. Sri Ganapathi is Lord of Ganas(Obstacles). How then can it be that Ganeshji dont like Tulsi leaves, but all other Deities do like it(very much). I think we'll have to wait for Vamshi Krishna Ganapathi's words. Sgd, Win Pradyumna Upadrashta <oneinfinitezero wrote: Since there is such a raging debate -- do puja with ladoo's -- I doubt Ganapathy will complain. If ladoo's don't work, I suggest some soni papadi. jai guru datta! pradyumna JAIGURUDATTA wrote:Latest News and Additions http://www.dattapeetham.com/additions/new.html Upcomming events at Datta Temple and Hall of Trinity, Baton Rouge, LA http://www.dattatemple.com/uevents.htm Post message: JAIGURUDATTA Subscribe: JAIGURUDATTA- Un: JAIGURUDATTA ------ There are 7 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Tulasi leaves Pradyumna Upadrashta 2. CH 9, Verse 2 Bhagavad Gita 3. Understanding Scripture "Swamiji Says" 4. Re: Re: Tulasi leaves Winand Abhelakh 5. Re: Re: Tulasi leaves "Daria" 6. Datta Avadhoota Satsang Sabhaa Atlanta "Datta Technologies " 7. Re: Re: Tulasi leaves Satyam Upadrashta ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 04:50:39 -0800 (PST) Pradyumna Upadrashta Re: Tulasi leaves The external forms of worship -- including worship using tulasi leaves, are only to inspire your internal worship. Whether you worship with tulsi or with air, it makes no difference -- the difference is the purity with which you offer. A tulasi leaf offered in anger, is offensive; but dung offered out of devotional love/forgetfulness becomes holy. There is no greater secret than this. A secret soon forgotten remains eternally secret. Jai Guru Datta! ______________________________ The centipede was happy quite until a bird said, in fun, "Which foot goes after which?" This raised his mind to such a pitch he lay distracted in a ditch considering how to run. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:18:22 -0800 (PST) Bhagavad Gita CH 9, Verse 2 Chapter 9 Verse 2 Raaja-vidyaa raaja-guhyam pavitram idam uttamam / pratyaksh'aavagamam dharmya.n susukham kartum avyayam // This (the knowledge of Brahman) is the sovereign science, the sovereign secret, the supreme purifier, immediately comprehensible, unopposed to Dharma, imperishable and very easy to perform. LESSONS FROM BHAGAVAD GITA – 84 As taught by Parama Pujya Sri Swamiji "This (the knowledge of Brahman) is the sovereign science, the sovereign secret, the supreme purifier, immediately comprehensible, unopposed to Dharma, imperishable and very easy to perform." The knowledge of Brahman is the sovereign science, or the king among all sciences, (Raja Vidya,) as it is the highest knowledge and is full of radiance. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:43:47 -0800 "Swamiji Says" Understanding Scripture Jaya Guru Datta, Here is today's saying: "In the case of a simple sentence like 'it is poison', we could understand the purport with the help of the situation. In the case of a friend who is narrating his hardships, we can not understand only with the help of the situation. We need to consider many other aspects. If so much of thinking is required to analyse the purport of a small story (like that of the friend), imagine how difficult it is to understand different aspects explained in a great scripture. When we engage in discussion and analysis of different aspects mentioned in great scriptures, it is not easy to verify if we are proceeding in the right direction. Therefore, men of wisdom have devised six different tests to understand the purport of a scripture. Collectively, they are called as 'Shadvidha Linga'. Linga means sign or characteristic. The purport of a scripture should be understood with the help of six characters. The purport of the scripture itself is the intention of its author." Sri Swamiji Lessons in Vedanta - 38 part IX Bhakti Mala, March 1999 Sri Guru Datta, Swamiji Says ___________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:29:47 -0800 (PST) Winand Abhelakh Re: Re: Tulasi leaves Sri Guru Datta Yess..I know some people who really make a fuzz about it. The say in the ganapati khanda of the brahmavaivarta purana there it clearly says that Ganeshji dont want tulsi. Then again i know of people who do use tulsi to worship Ganeshji. Does anyone know Sri Swamiji's(Ganeshji in disguise) words on this? And does anyone know the subbtle meaning? I've pasted 3 findings ..please enjoy. Jai Gurudeva Datta, Win. While white flowers are ideal for worship, coloured flowers are not so sacred for worship. Lotuses, Jasmines and some other such flowers are good; ....... Ganapati is not to be worshipped with Tulsi, ......... and Devi is not to be worshiped with Garika. Maredu (Bilwa) is dear Shiva and Tulsi for Vishnu. After the offerings of flowers, Dhoopa has to be offered. During the Puja, appropriate Mantras and prayers are to be recited with full devotion. ....................................................... Bron: http://guru-charitra.shreeswami.org/sri-guru-charitra-chapter-37.htm Ramana Gopal Ganapathiraju (ramana) wrote: : In article , : anand hudli wrote: : > Yes, I am aware of the prohibition of tulasi leaves in the worship : > of Ganesha. Bilva leaves are fine. One of the names of Ganesha is : > duurvaabilvapriya. The arka flowers are supposed to be a favorite : > of Narasimha as well. : i am quoting from Vinayaka vrata kalpam used almost over entire : andhra on ganesh chaturdhi: : athaika vimsathi patra pooja - sumukhaya namaha maachi patram : poojayaami, ganadhipaaya namaha brihathi patram, umaaputraaya : bilva patram, ....... gajakarnaaya tulasi patram, ekadantaaya : chuta patram ...... sri ganeswaraaya ekavimsathi pathrani O_z : poojayaami. : so i do not know where from the custom of prohibition to use : tulasi for ganesh has come, since the above clearly shows : that tulasi is one of the approved leaves for worshiping : ganesha. .... Actually, the tulsi leaves, I think are exclusively used for the worship of Sri Vishnu. This custom owes its existence to a tale in Vishnu Purana, where, the Lord granted this boon to Tulsi, (wife of demon Shankh- Chura), whose satitva was taken away by the Lord. As a consolation, the Lord said that His worship will remain incomplete, if it did not involve Tulsi (a symbol of satitva) and shanka (conch), since it is said that the bones of ShankhaChura became conch. -- Nachiketa Tiwari Source: http://www.hindunet.org/srh_home/1996_10/msg00173.html .... The Story of Tulasi Devi http://www.hknet.org.nz/parishad95.htm .... .. ... ... .. Pradyumna Upadrashta wrote: The external forms of worship -- including worship using tulasi leaves, are only to inspire your internal worship. Whether you worship with tulsi or with air, it makes no difference -- the difference is the purity with which you offer. A tulasi leaf offered in anger, is offensive; but dung offered out of devotional love/forgetfulness becomes holy. There is no greater secret than this. A secret soon forgotten remains eternally secret. Jai Guru Datta! ______________________________ The centipede was happy quite until a bird said, in fun, "Which foot goes after which?" This raised his mind to such a pitch he lay distracted in a ditch considering how to run. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Latest News and Additions http://www.dattapeetham.com/additions/new.html Upcomming events at Datta Temple and Hall of Trinity, Baton Rouge, LA http://www.dattatemple.com/uevents.htm Post message: JAIGURUDATTA Subscribe: JAIGURUDATTA- Un: JAIGURUDATTA Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:00:46 -0800 "Daria" Re: Re: Tulasi leaves Jai Guru Datta, Several years ago a group of devotees published a tape in Tamil about the greatness of Tulsi pooja.. I don't know if that tape is still available or if there or any translations of it...perhaps some devotees remember...the address for contacting about the tape at the time of its release was: Gnana Bodha Sabha, No 1, jalan SM2, Taman Sri Manja, 46000 Petaling Jaya. Also, there is a small booklet that was published in 1982 in the US by Sri Shirdi Sai Publications, PO Box 2272, Morgantown, WV 26505 about Tulsi. It is called "Basil Plant (Tulasi Plant) Worship Among the World." I don't know if it's still available, but it is a nice booklet containing lots of information about Tulasi and its worship. Hope that helps....by the way, the only thing it says in the booklet about Ganapati is "Ganesh will not be worshipped with Tulasi except on Vinayaka Chaturthi. ... Sri Guru Datta, Daria Woodside Baton Rouge, LA. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:55:17 -0000 "Datta Technologies " Datta Avadhoota Satsang Sabhaa Atlanta Jai Guru Datta !!! Attention Georgia and Alabama Devotees Announcing monthly Bhajans in the Atlanta Area on the last Sunday of every month: For information contact: Dinesh Sthanki 678-423-0605 Note: This phone number is different fromn the one on the dycusa site. For online Arti and Flower offerings to Datta click on the following link http://www.blessingsonthenet.com/virtual%20darshan/dhtml%2Fdatta% 2Ehtml Jai Guru Datta !!! ______________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:38:46 -0500 Satyam Upadrashta Re: Re: Tulasi leaves Dear fellow devotees, Sri Sadgurubhyonnamaha! Jaya guru Datta! To the best I know, Lord Ganapathi may be worshipped with Tulasi leaves ONLY on GANESHA CHTURTHI day. To bring some clarity to the issue and find out the reason why Tulasi can't be used to worship Lord Ganapthi on other days, I am requesting Sri VAMSHI KRISHNA GHANAPATHI from Sri Swamiji's ashram in Mysore to comment. Sri Guru Datta! Satyam Upadrashta New Jersey - "Winand Abhelakh" To: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:29 PM Re: Re: Tulasi leaves > > Sri Guru Datta > Yess..I know some people who really make a fuzz about it. The say in the ganapati khanda of the brahmavaivarta purana there it clearly says that Ganeshji dont want tulsi. Then again i know of people who do use tulsi to worship Ganeshji. Does anyone know Sri Swamiji's(Ganeshji in disguise) words on this? And does anyone know the subbtle meaning? I've pasted 3 findings ...please enjoy. > Jai Gurudeva Datta, Win. > > > > While white flowers are ideal for worship, coloured flowers are not so sacred for worship. Lotuses, Jasmines and some other such flowers are good; > > ...... > > Ganapati is not to be worshipped with Tulsi, > > ........ > > and Devi is not to be worshiped with Garika. Maredu (Bilwa) is dear Shiva and Tulsi for Vishnu. After the offerings of flowers, Dhoopa has to be offered. During the Puja, appropriate Mantras and prayers are to be recited with full devotion. > > ...................................................... > > Bron: > http://guru-charitra.shreeswami.org/sri-guru-charitra-chapter-37.htm > > Ramana Gopal Ganapathiraju (ramana) wrote: > : In article , > : anand hudli wrote: > : > Yes, I am aware of the prohibition of tulasi leaves in the worship > : > of Ganesha. Bilva leaves are fine. One of the names of Ganesha is > : > duurvaabilvapriya. The arka flowers are supposed to be a favorite > : > of Narasimha as well. > > : i am quoting from Vinayaka vrata kalpam used almost over entire > : andhra on ganesh chaturdhi: > > : athaika vimsathi patra pooja - sumukhaya namaha maachi patram > : poojayaami, ganadhipaaya namaha brihathi patram, umaaputraaya > : bilva patram, ....... gajakarnaaya tulasi patram, ekadantaaya > : chuta patram ...... sri ganeswaraaya ekavimsathi pathrani O_z > : poojayaami. > > : so i do not know where from the custom of prohibition to use > : tulasi for ganesh has come, since the above clearly shows > : that tulasi is one of the approved leaves for worshiping > : ganesha. > > ... > Actually, the tulsi leaves, I think are exclusively used > for the worship of Sri Vishnu. This custom owes its > existence to a tale in Vishnu Purana, where, the Lord > granted this boon to Tulsi, (wife of demon Shankh- > Chura), whose satitva was taken away by the Lord. As > a consolation, the Lord said that His worship will > remain incomplete, if it did not involve Tulsi > (a symbol of satitva) and shanka (conch), since it > is said that the bones of ShankhaChura became conch. > > -- > Nachiketa Tiwari > > Source: http://www.hindunet.org/srh_home/1996_10/msg00173.html > > > > ... > The Story of Tulasi Devi > > http://www.hknet.org.nz/parishad95.htm > > ... > . > .. > .. > . > > > > > Pradyumna Upadrashta wrote: > The external forms of worship -- including worship using tulasi leaves, are only to inspire your internal worship. Whether you worship with tulsi or with air, it makes no difference -- the difference is the purity with which you offer. A tulasi leaf offered in anger, is offensive; but dung offered out of devotional love/forgetfulness becomes holy. There is no greater secret than this. A secret soon forgotten remains eternally secret. > Jai Guru Datta! > > > ______________________________ > The centipede was happy quite > until a bird said, in fun, > "Which foot goes after which?" > This raised his mind to such a pitch > he lay distracted in a ditch > considering how to run. > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > > > > Sponsor > > Latest News and Additions http://www.dattapeetham.com/additions/new.html > > Upcomming events at Datta Temple and Hall of Trinity, Baton Rouge, LA > http://www.dattatemple.com/uevents.htm > > Post message: JAIGURUDATTA > Subscribe: JAIGURUDATTA- > Un: JAIGURUDATTA > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 from hinduism.co.za, a-z, ganapati: "THE SIGNIFICANCE OF GANAPATI AND `MAKKHAN-CHOR' GOPALNANDA In Sanskrit language, there are more than one meaning attached to a word. For example, the word GO means cow as well as sense organs. Gopal means cowherd. Gopal also means a yogi whose sense organs are completely under his control. This dual meaning enables poets to bring out their best on the physical plane as well as on the spiritual plane. We have Krishna the cowherd boy in Vraj and Vrindavan, and we have Gopalnanda Krishna, the yogeshwar, milking the Upanishads, and the milk is the great nectar of the Bhagavad Gita.(Gita Dhyanam, verse 4, usually found at the beginning of Bhagavad Gita books). The maakhan (cream) or the gist or essence of the Upanishads is presented in the Bhagavad Gita. This is what the `makkhan chor' took from the Upanishads and distributed for the benefit of mankind. Similarly, a common Sanskrit word to denote elephant is GAJA. Here Gajanan means elephant faced - a name for Ganapati. But the word Gaja has a much deeper connotation. GA indicates gati, the final goal towards which the entire creation is moving, whether knowingly or unknowingly. JA stands for janma, birth or origin. Hence GAJA signifies GOD from whom worlds have come out and towards whom they are progressing, to be ultimately dissolved in Him. The elephant head is thus purely symbolical.We observe creation in its two fold manifestation as the microcosm (sukshmanda) and the macrocosm (brahmanda). Each is a replica of the other. They are one in two and two in one. The elephant head stands for the macrocosm (representing vastness or bigness), and the human body for the microcosm. The two form one unit. Since the macrocosm is the goal of the microcosm, the elephant part has been given greater prominence by making it a head.The Chandogya Upanishad has pronounced a philisophical truth as TAT-TVAM-ASI, THAT- THOU -ART. It simply means "You, the apparently limited individual, are in essence, the cosmic Truth, the Absolute". The elephant-human form of Ganapati is the iconographical representation of this great Vedantic dictum. the elephant stands for the cosmic whereas the human stands for the individual. The single image reflects their identity.Vedanta is the synthesis of the `within' and the `without'; the macrocosm and the microcosm. The study of this `within' of nature through an inquiry into the `within' of man, who is the unique product of nature`s evolution, is religion according to Indian thought. The synthesis of the knowledge of the `without' , which the physical sciences give, and the `within' which religion gives, is what India achieved in her Vedanta. This she calls BRAHMA - VIDYA or philosophy; God or Brahman(`BRAHMAN' is the Upanishdic term for the Supreme Reality, God) standing for the totality of reality, physical and non-physical. Brahma - vidya is Sarva - vidya- pratishtha (philosophy is the basis and support of all knowledge) says the Mundaka Upanishad (i.i.i.).The Ganapati Upanishad identifies Lord Ganesh with the Supreme Self. Lord Ganesh represents the Pranava (AUM) which is the symbol of the Supreme Self. Taitiriya Upanishad (1.8.1.) states: "AUM ITI BRAHMAN -AUM is Brahman (GOD). AUM is all this . Nothing can be done without uttering it. This explains the practice of invokong Lord Ganesh before beginni ng any rite or undertaking any project.Lord Ganesh removes all obstacles on the path of the spiritual aspirant, and bestows upon him worldly as well as spiritual success. So he is called VIGNA VINAYAKA or VIGHNESHWAR.====================================" so if Ganapati stands for the Supreme Self, isn´t it a bit strange to think the Divine Self might reject Tulsi? jgd. > > >> Jgd, Ofcourse Prad ...but i'm interested in the "subbtle" meaning. >> Subbtle like Sri Rama =Atma, Sita Mata= Mind, their coming together = very >> beautiful. Sri Ganapathi is Lord of Ganas(Obstacles). How then can it be >> that Ganeshji dont like Tulsi leaves, but all other Deities do like >> it(very much). I think we'll have to wait for Vamshi Krishna Ganapathi's >> words. Sgd, Win > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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