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Since there is such a raging debate -- do puja with ladoo's -- I doubt Ganapathy

will complain. If ladoo's don't work, I suggest some soni papadi.

jai guru datta! pradyumna

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1. Re: Tulasi leaves

Pradyumna Upadrashta

2. CH 9, Verse 2

Bhagavad Gita

3. Understanding Scripture

"Swamiji Says"

4. Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

Winand Abhelakh

5. Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

"Daria"

6. Datta Avadhoota Satsang Sabhaa Atlanta

"Datta Technologies "

7. Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

Satyam Upadrashta

 

 

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Tue, 28 Jan 2003 04:50:39 -0800 (PST)

Pradyumna Upadrashta

Re: Tulasi leaves

 

 

The external forms of worship -- including worship using tulasi leaves, are only

to inspire your internal worship. Whether you worship with tulsi or with air, it

makes no difference -- the difference is the purity with which you offer. A

tulasi leaf offered in anger, is offensive; but dung offered out of devotional

love/forgetfulness becomes holy. There is no greater secret than this. A secret

soon forgotten remains eternally secret.

Jai Guru Datta!

 

 

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"Which foot goes after which?"

This raised his mind to such a pitch

he lay distracted in a ditch

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Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:18:22 -0800 (PST)

Bhagavad Gita

CH 9, Verse 2

 

Chapter 9

Verse 2

 

Raaja-vidyaa raaja-guhyam pavitram idam uttamam /

pratyaksh'aavagamam dharmya.n susukham kartum avyayam

//

 

 

This (the knowledge of Brahman) is the sovereign

science, the sovereign secret, the supreme purifier,

immediately comprehensible, unopposed to Dharma,

imperishable and very easy to perform.

 

LESSONS FROM BHAGAVAD GITA – 84

As taught by Parama Pujya Sri Swamiji

 

"This (the knowledge of Brahman) is the sovereign

science, the sovereign secret, the supreme purifier,

immediately comprehensible, unopposed to Dharma,

imperishable and very easy to perform."

 

The knowledge of Brahman is the sovereign science, or

the king among all sciences, (Raja Vidya,) as it is

the highest knowledge and is full of radiance.

 

 

 

 

 

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Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:43:47 -0800

"Swamiji Says"

Understanding Scripture

 

Jaya Guru Datta,

 

Here is today's saying:

 

"In the case of a simple sentence like 'it is poison', we could understand the

purport with the help of the situation. In the case of a friend who is narrating

his hardships, we can not understand only with the help of the situation. We

need to consider many other aspects. If so much of thinking is required to

analyse the purport of a small story (like that of the friend), imagine how

difficult it is to understand different aspects explained in a great scripture.

When we engage in discussion and analysis of different aspects mentioned in

great scriptures, it is not easy to verify if we are proceeding in the right

direction. Therefore, men of wisdom have devised six different tests to

understand the purport of a scripture. Collectively, they are called as

'Shadvidha Linga'. Linga means sign or characteristic. The purport of a

scripture should be understood with the help of six characters. The purport of

the scripture itself is the intention of its author."

 

Sri Swamiji

Lessons in Vedanta - 38 part IX

Bhakti Mala, March 1999

 

 

Sri Guru Datta,

Swamiji Says

 

 

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Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:29:47 -0800 (PST)

Winand Abhelakh

Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

 

 

Sri Guru Datta

Yess..I know some people who really make a fuzz about it. The say in the

ganapati khanda of the brahmavaivarta purana there it clearly says that Ganeshji

dont want tulsi. Then again i know of people who do use tulsi to worship

Ganeshji. Does anyone know Sri Swamiji's(Ganeshji in disguise) words on this?

And does anyone know the subbtle meaning? I've pasted 3 findings ..please enjoy.

Jai Gurudeva Datta, Win.

 

 

 

While white flowers are ideal for worship, coloured flowers are not so sacred

for worship. Lotuses, Jasmines and some other such flowers are good;

 

.......

 

Ganapati is not to be worshipped with Tulsi,

 

.........

 

and Devi is not to be worshiped with Garika. Maredu (Bilwa) is dear Shiva and

Tulsi for Vishnu. After the offerings of flowers, Dhoopa has to be offered.

During the Puja, appropriate Mantras and prayers are to be recited with full

devotion.

 

.......................................................

 

Bron:

http://guru-charitra.shreeswami.org/sri-guru-charitra-chapter-37.htm

 

Ramana Gopal Ganapathiraju (ramana) wrote:

: In article ,

: anand hudli wrote:

: > Yes, I am aware of the prohibition of tulasi leaves in the worship

: > of Ganesha. Bilva leaves are fine. One of the names of Ganesha is

: > duurvaabilvapriya. The arka flowers are supposed to be a favorite

: > of Narasimha as well.

 

: i am quoting from Vinayaka vrata kalpam used almost over entire

: andhra on ganesh chaturdhi:

 

: athaika vimsathi patra pooja - sumukhaya namaha maachi patram

: poojayaami, ganadhipaaya namaha brihathi patram, umaaputraaya

: bilva patram, ....... gajakarnaaya tulasi patram, ekadantaaya

: chuta patram ...... sri ganeswaraaya ekavimsathi pathrani O_z

: poojayaami.

 

: so i do not know where from the custom of prohibition to use

: tulasi for ganesh has come, since the above clearly shows

: that tulasi is one of the approved leaves for worshiping

: ganesha.

 

....

Actually, the tulsi leaves, I think are exclusively used

for the worship of Sri Vishnu. This custom owes its

existence to a tale in Vishnu Purana, where, the Lord

granted this boon to Tulsi, (wife of demon Shankh-

Chura), whose satitva was taken away by the Lord. As

a consolation, the Lord said that His worship will

remain incomplete, if it did not involve Tulsi

(a symbol of satitva) and shanka (conch), since it

is said that the bones of ShankhaChura became conch.

 

--

Nachiketa Tiwari

 

Source: http://www.hindunet.org/srh_home/1996_10/msg00173.html

 

 

 

....

The Story of Tulasi Devi

 

http://www.hknet.org.nz/parishad95.htm

 

....

..

...

...

..

 

 

 

 

Pradyumna Upadrashta wrote:

The external forms of worship -- including worship using tulasi leaves, are only

to inspire your internal worship. Whether you worship with tulsi or with air, it

makes no difference -- the difference is the purity with which you offer. A

tulasi leaf offered in anger, is offensive; but dung offered out of devotional

love/forgetfulness becomes holy. There is no greater secret than this. A secret

soon forgotten remains eternally secret.

Jai Guru Datta!

 

 

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The centipede was happy quite

until a bird said, in fun,

"Which foot goes after which?"

This raised his mind to such a pitch

he lay distracted in a ditch

considering how to run.

 

 

 

 

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Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:00:46 -0800

"Daria"

Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

 

Jai Guru Datta,

 

Several years ago a group of devotees published a tape in Tamil about the

greatness of Tulsi pooja.. I don't know if that tape is still available or if

there or any translations of it...perhaps some devotees remember...the address

for contacting about the tape at the time of its release was:

Gnana Bodha Sabha, No 1, jalan SM2, Taman Sri Manja, 46000 Petaling Jaya.

 

Also, there is a small booklet that was published in 1982 in the US by Sri

Shirdi Sai Publications, PO Box 2272, Morgantown, WV 26505 about Tulsi. It is

called "Basil Plant (Tulasi Plant) Worship Among the World." I don't know if

it's still available, but it is a nice booklet containing lots of information

about Tulasi and its worship.

 

Hope that helps....by the way, the only thing it says in the booklet about

Ganapati is "Ganesh will not be worshipped with Tulasi except on Vinayaka

Chaturthi. ...

 

Sri Guru Datta,

 

Daria Woodside

Baton Rouge, LA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:55:17 -0000

"Datta Technologies "

Datta Avadhoota Satsang Sabhaa Atlanta

 

Jai Guru Datta !!!

 

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Announcing monthly Bhajans in the Atlanta Area on the last Sunday of

every month:

 

For information contact:

Dinesh Sthanki 678-423-0605

Note: This phone number is different fromn the one on the dycusa

site.

 

For online Arti and Flower offerings to Datta click on the

following link

 

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Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:38:46 -0500

Satyam Upadrashta

Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

 

Dear fellow devotees, Sri Sadgurubhyonnamaha! Jaya guru Datta!

 

To the best I know, Lord Ganapathi may be worshipped with Tulasi leaves ONLY

on GANESHA CHTURTHI day.

 

To bring some clarity to the issue and find out the reason why Tulasi can't

be used to worship Lord Ganapthi on other days, I am requesting Sri VAMSHI

KRISHNA GHANAPATHI from Sri Swamiji's ashram in Mysore to comment.

 

Sri Guru Datta!

 

Satyam Upadrashta

New Jersey

-

"Winand Abhelakh"

To:

Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:29 PM

Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

 

 

>

> Sri Guru Datta

> Yess..I know some people who really make a fuzz about it. The say in the

ganapati khanda of the brahmavaivarta purana there it clearly says that

Ganeshji dont want tulsi. Then again i know of people who do use tulsi to

worship Ganeshji. Does anyone know Sri Swamiji's(Ganeshji in disguise) words

on this? And does anyone know the subbtle meaning? I've pasted 3 findings

...please enjoy.

> Jai Gurudeva Datta, Win.

>

>

>

> While white flowers are ideal for worship, coloured flowers are not so

sacred for worship. Lotuses, Jasmines and some other such flowers are good;

>

> ......

>

> Ganapati is not to be worshipped with Tulsi,

>

> ........

>

> and Devi is not to be worshiped with Garika. Maredu (Bilwa) is dear Shiva

and Tulsi for Vishnu. After the offerings of flowers, Dhoopa has to be

offered. During the Puja, appropriate Mantras and prayers are to be recited

with full devotion.

>

> ......................................................

>

> Bron:

> http://guru-charitra.shreeswami.org/sri-guru-charitra-chapter-37.htm

>

> Ramana Gopal Ganapathiraju (ramana) wrote:

> : In article ,

> : anand hudli wrote:

> : > Yes, I am aware of the prohibition of tulasi leaves in the worship

> : > of Ganesha. Bilva leaves are fine. One of the names of Ganesha is

> : > duurvaabilvapriya. The arka flowers are supposed to be a favorite

> : > of Narasimha as well.

>

> : i am quoting from Vinayaka vrata kalpam used almost over entire

> : andhra on ganesh chaturdhi:

>

> : athaika vimsathi patra pooja - sumukhaya namaha maachi patram

> : poojayaami, ganadhipaaya namaha brihathi patram, umaaputraaya

> : bilva patram, ....... gajakarnaaya tulasi patram, ekadantaaya

> : chuta patram ...... sri ganeswaraaya ekavimsathi pathrani O_z

> : poojayaami.

>

> : so i do not know where from the custom of prohibition to use

> : tulasi for ganesh has come, since the above clearly shows

> : that tulasi is one of the approved leaves for worshiping

> : ganesha.

>

> ...

> Actually, the tulsi leaves, I think are exclusively used

> for the worship of Sri Vishnu. This custom owes its

> existence to a tale in Vishnu Purana, where, the Lord

> granted this boon to Tulsi, (wife of demon Shankh-

> Chura), whose satitva was taken away by the Lord. As

> a consolation, the Lord said that His worship will

> remain incomplete, if it did not involve Tulsi

> (a symbol of satitva) and shanka (conch), since it

> is said that the bones of ShankhaChura became conch.

>

> --

> Nachiketa Tiwari

>

> Source: http://www.hindunet.org/srh_home/1996_10/msg00173.html

>

>

>

> ...

> The Story of Tulasi Devi

>

> http://www.hknet.org.nz/parishad95.htm

>

> ...

> .

> ..

> ..

> .

>

>

>

>

> Pradyumna Upadrashta wrote:

> The external forms of worship -- including worship using tulasi leaves,

are only to inspire your internal worship. Whether you worship with tulsi or

with air, it makes no difference -- the difference is the purity with which

you offer. A tulasi leaf offered in anger, is offensive; but dung offered

out of devotional love/forgetfulness becomes holy. There is no greater

secret than this. A secret soon forgotten remains eternally secret.

> Jai Guru Datta!

>

>

> ______________________________

> The centipede was happy quite

> until a bird said, in fun,

> "Which foot goes after which?"

> This raised his mind to such a pitch

> he lay distracted in a ditch

> considering how to run.

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Jgd, Ofcourse Prad ...but i'm interested in the "subbtle" meaning. Subbtle like

Sri Rama =Atma, Sita Mata= Mind, their coming together = very beautiful. Sri

Ganapathi is Lord of Ganas(Obstacles). How then can it be that Ganeshji dont

like Tulsi leaves, but all other Deities do like it(very much). I think we'll

have to wait for Vamshi Krishna Ganapathi's words. Sgd, Win

Pradyumna Upadrashta <oneinfinitezero wrote:

Since there is such a raging debate -- do puja with ladoo's -- I doubt Ganapathy

will complain. If ladoo's don't work, I suggest some soni papadi.

jai guru datta! pradyumna

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There are 7 messages in this issue.

 

Topics in this digest:

 

1. Re: Tulasi leaves

Pradyumna Upadrashta

2. CH 9, Verse 2

Bhagavad Gita

3. Understanding Scripture

"Swamiji Says"

4. Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

Winand Abhelakh

5. Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

"Daria"

6. Datta Avadhoota Satsang Sabhaa Atlanta

"Datta Technologies "

7. Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

Satyam Upadrashta

 

 

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Tue, 28 Jan 2003 04:50:39 -0800 (PST)

Pradyumna Upadrashta

Re: Tulasi leaves

 

 

The external forms of worship -- including worship using tulasi leaves, are only

to inspire your internal worship. Whether you worship with tulsi or with air, it

makes no difference -- the difference is the purity with which you offer. A

tulasi leaf offered in anger, is offensive; but dung offered out of devotional

love/forgetfulness becomes holy. There is no greater secret than this. A secret

soon forgotten remains eternally secret.

Jai Guru Datta!

 

 

______________________________

The centipede was happy quite

until a bird said, in fun,

"Which foot goes after which?"

This raised his mind to such a pitch

he lay distracted in a ditch

considering how to run.

 

 

 

 

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Bhagavad Gita

CH 9, Verse 2

 

Chapter 9

Verse 2

 

Raaja-vidyaa raaja-guhyam pavitram idam uttamam /

pratyaksh'aavagamam dharmya.n susukham kartum avyayam

//

 

 

This (the knowledge of Brahman) is the sovereign

science, the sovereign secret, the supreme purifier,

immediately comprehensible, unopposed to Dharma,

imperishable and very easy to perform.

 

LESSONS FROM BHAGAVAD GITA – 84

As taught by Parama Pujya Sri Swamiji

 

"This (the knowledge of Brahman) is the sovereign

science, the sovereign secret, the supreme purifier,

immediately comprehensible, unopposed to Dharma,

imperishable and very easy to perform."

 

The knowledge of Brahman is the sovereign science, or

the king among all sciences, (Raja Vidya,) as it is

the highest knowledge and is full of radiance.

 

 

 

 

 

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Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:43:47 -0800

"Swamiji Says"

Understanding Scripture

 

Jaya Guru Datta,

 

Here is today's saying:

 

"In the case of a simple sentence like 'it is poison', we could understand the

purport with the help of the situation. In the case of a friend who is narrating

his hardships, we can not understand only with the help of the situation. We

need to consider many other aspects. If so much of thinking is required to

analyse the purport of a small story (like that of the friend), imagine how

difficult it is to understand different aspects explained in a great scripture.

When we engage in discussion and analysis of different aspects mentioned in

great scriptures, it is not easy to verify if we are proceeding in the right

direction. Therefore, men of wisdom have devised six different tests to

understand the purport of a scripture. Collectively, they are called as

'Shadvidha Linga'. Linga means sign or characteristic. The purport of a

scripture should be understood with the help of six characters. The purport of

the scripture itself is the intention of its author."

 

Sri Swamiji

Lessons in Vedanta - 38 part IX

Bhakti Mala, March 1999

 

 

Sri Guru Datta,

Swamiji Says

 

 

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Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:29:47 -0800 (PST)

Winand Abhelakh

Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

 

 

Sri Guru Datta

Yess..I know some people who really make a fuzz about it. The say in the

ganapati khanda of the brahmavaivarta purana there it clearly says that Ganeshji

dont want tulsi. Then again i know of people who do use tulsi to worship

Ganeshji. Does anyone know Sri Swamiji's(Ganeshji in disguise) words on this?

And does anyone know the subbtle meaning? I've pasted 3 findings ..please enjoy.

Jai Gurudeva Datta, Win.

 

 

 

While white flowers are ideal for worship, coloured flowers are not so sacred

for worship. Lotuses, Jasmines and some other such flowers are good;

 

.......

 

Ganapati is not to be worshipped with Tulsi,

 

.........

 

and Devi is not to be worshiped with Garika. Maredu (Bilwa) is dear Shiva and

Tulsi for Vishnu. After the offerings of flowers, Dhoopa has to be offered.

During the Puja, appropriate Mantras and prayers are to be recited with full

devotion.

 

.......................................................

 

Bron:

http://guru-charitra.shreeswami.org/sri-guru-charitra-chapter-37.htm

 

Ramana Gopal Ganapathiraju (ramana) wrote:

: In article ,

: anand hudli wrote:

: > Yes, I am aware of the prohibition of tulasi leaves in the worship

: > of Ganesha. Bilva leaves are fine. One of the names of Ganesha is

: > duurvaabilvapriya. The arka flowers are supposed to be a favorite

: > of Narasimha as well.

 

: i am quoting from Vinayaka vrata kalpam used almost over entire

: andhra on ganesh chaturdhi:

 

: athaika vimsathi patra pooja - sumukhaya namaha maachi patram

: poojayaami, ganadhipaaya namaha brihathi patram, umaaputraaya

: bilva patram, ....... gajakarnaaya tulasi patram, ekadantaaya

: chuta patram ...... sri ganeswaraaya ekavimsathi pathrani O_z

: poojayaami.

 

: so i do not know where from the custom of prohibition to use

: tulasi for ganesh has come, since the above clearly shows

: that tulasi is one of the approved leaves for worshiping

: ganesha.

 

....

Actually, the tulsi leaves, I think are exclusively used

for the worship of Sri Vishnu. This custom owes its

existence to a tale in Vishnu Purana, where, the Lord

granted this boon to Tulsi, (wife of demon Shankh-

Chura), whose satitva was taken away by the Lord. As

a consolation, the Lord said that His worship will

remain incomplete, if it did not involve Tulsi

(a symbol of satitva) and shanka (conch), since it

is said that the bones of ShankhaChura became conch.

 

--

Nachiketa Tiwari

 

Source: http://www.hindunet.org/srh_home/1996_10/msg00173.html

 

 

 

....

The Story of Tulasi Devi

 

http://www.hknet.org.nz/parishad95.htm

 

....

..

...

...

..

 

 

 

 

Pradyumna Upadrashta wrote:

The external forms of worship -- including worship using tulasi leaves, are only

to inspire your internal worship. Whether you worship with tulsi or with air, it

makes no difference -- the difference is the purity with which you offer. A

tulasi leaf offered in anger, is offensive; but dung offered out of devotional

love/forgetfulness becomes holy. There is no greater secret than this. A secret

soon forgotten remains eternally secret.

Jai Guru Datta!

 

 

______________________________

The centipede was happy quite

until a bird said, in fun,

"Which foot goes after which?"

This raised his mind to such a pitch

he lay distracted in a ditch

considering how to run.

 

 

 

 

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"Daria"

Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

 

Jai Guru Datta,

 

Several years ago a group of devotees published a tape in Tamil about the

greatness of Tulsi pooja.. I don't know if that tape is still available or if

there or any translations of it...perhaps some devotees remember...the address

for contacting about the tape at the time of its release was:

Gnana Bodha Sabha, No 1, jalan SM2, Taman Sri Manja, 46000 Petaling Jaya.

 

Also, there is a small booklet that was published in 1982 in the US by Sri

Shirdi Sai Publications, PO Box 2272, Morgantown, WV 26505 about Tulsi. It is

called "Basil Plant (Tulasi Plant) Worship Among the World." I don't know if

it's still available, but it is a nice booklet containing lots of information

about Tulasi and its worship.

 

Hope that helps....by the way, the only thing it says in the booklet about

Ganapati is "Ganesh will not be worshipped with Tulasi except on Vinayaka

Chaturthi. ...

 

Sri Guru Datta,

 

Daria Woodside

Baton Rouge, LA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Satyam Upadrashta

Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

 

Dear fellow devotees, Sri Sadgurubhyonnamaha! Jaya guru Datta!

 

To the best I know, Lord Ganapathi may be worshipped with Tulasi leaves ONLY

on GANESHA CHTURTHI day.

 

To bring some clarity to the issue and find out the reason why Tulasi can't

be used to worship Lord Ganapthi on other days, I am requesting Sri VAMSHI

KRISHNA GHANAPATHI from Sri Swamiji's ashram in Mysore to comment.

 

Sri Guru Datta!

 

Satyam Upadrashta

New Jersey

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"Winand Abhelakh"

To:

Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:29 PM

Re: Re: Tulasi leaves

 

 

>

> Sri Guru Datta

> Yess..I know some people who really make a fuzz about it. The say in the

ganapati khanda of the brahmavaivarta purana there it clearly says that

Ganeshji dont want tulsi. Then again i know of people who do use tulsi to

worship Ganeshji. Does anyone know Sri Swamiji's(Ganeshji in disguise) words

on this? And does anyone know the subbtle meaning? I've pasted 3 findings

...please enjoy.

> Jai Gurudeva Datta, Win.

>

>

>

> While white flowers are ideal for worship, coloured flowers are not so

sacred for worship. Lotuses, Jasmines and some other such flowers are good;

>

> ......

>

> Ganapati is not to be worshipped with Tulsi,

>

> ........

>

> and Devi is not to be worshiped with Garika. Maredu (Bilwa) is dear Shiva

and Tulsi for Vishnu. After the offerings of flowers, Dhoopa has to be

offered. During the Puja, appropriate Mantras and prayers are to be recited

with full devotion.

>

> ......................................................

>

> Bron:

> http://guru-charitra.shreeswami.org/sri-guru-charitra-chapter-37.htm

>

> Ramana Gopal Ganapathiraju (ramana) wrote:

> : In article ,

> : anand hudli wrote:

> : > Yes, I am aware of the prohibition of tulasi leaves in the worship

> : > of Ganesha. Bilva leaves are fine. One of the names of Ganesha is

> : > duurvaabilvapriya. The arka flowers are supposed to be a favorite

> : > of Narasimha as well.

>

> : i am quoting from Vinayaka vrata kalpam used almost over entire

> : andhra on ganesh chaturdhi:

>

> : athaika vimsathi patra pooja - sumukhaya namaha maachi patram

> : poojayaami, ganadhipaaya namaha brihathi patram, umaaputraaya

> : bilva patram, ....... gajakarnaaya tulasi patram, ekadantaaya

> : chuta patram ...... sri ganeswaraaya ekavimsathi pathrani O_z

> : poojayaami.

>

> : so i do not know where from the custom of prohibition to use

> : tulasi for ganesh has come, since the above clearly shows

> : that tulasi is one of the approved leaves for worshiping

> : ganesha.

>

> ...

> Actually, the tulsi leaves, I think are exclusively used

> for the worship of Sri Vishnu. This custom owes its

> existence to a tale in Vishnu Purana, where, the Lord

> granted this boon to Tulsi, (wife of demon Shankh-

> Chura), whose satitva was taken away by the Lord. As

> a consolation, the Lord said that His worship will

> remain incomplete, if it did not involve Tulsi

> (a symbol of satitva) and shanka (conch), since it

> is said that the bones of ShankhaChura became conch.

>

> --

> Nachiketa Tiwari

>

> Source: http://www.hindunet.org/srh_home/1996_10/msg00173.html

>

>

>

> ...

> The Story of Tulasi Devi

>

> http://www.hknet.org.nz/parishad95.htm

>

> ...

> .

> ..

> ..

> .

>

>

>

>

> Pradyumna Upadrashta wrote:

> The external forms of worship -- including worship using tulasi leaves,

are only to inspire your internal worship. Whether you worship with tulsi or

with air, it makes no difference -- the difference is the purity with which

you offer. A tulasi leaf offered in anger, is offensive; but dung offered

out of devotional love/forgetfulness becomes holy. There is no greater

secret than this. A secret soon forgotten remains eternally secret.

> Jai Guru Datta!

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from hinduism.co.za, a-z, ganapati:

"THE SIGNIFICANCE OF GANAPATI

AND `MAKKHAN-CHOR' GOPALNANDA In Sanskrit language, there are more

than one meaning attached to a word. For example, the word GO means cow as

well as sense organs. Gopal means cowherd. Gopal also means a yogi whose

sense organs are completely under his control. This dual meaning enables

poets to bring out their best on the physical plane as well as on the

spiritual plane.

 

We have Krishna the cowherd boy in Vraj and Vrindavan, and we have Gopalnanda

Krishna, the yogeshwar, milking the Upanishads, and the milk is the great

nectar of the Bhagavad Gita.(Gita Dhyanam, verse 4, usually found at the

beginning of Bhagavad Gita books). The maakhan (cream) or the gist or essence

of the Upanishads is presented in the Bhagavad Gita. This is what the

`makkhan chor' took from the Upanishads and distributed for the benefit of

mankind. Similarly, a common Sanskrit word to denote elephant is GAJA. Here

Gajanan means elephant faced - a name for Ganapati. But the word Gaja has a

much deeper connotation. GA indicates gati, the final goal towards which the

entire creation is moving, whether knowingly or unknowingly. JA stands for

janma, birth or origin. Hence GAJA signifies GOD from whom worlds have come

out and towards whom they are progressing, to be ultimately dissolved in Him.

The elephant head is thus purely symbolical.We observe creation in its two

fold manifestation as the microcosm (sukshmanda) and the macrocosm

(brahmanda). Each is a replica of the other. They are one in two and two in

one. The elephant head stands for the macrocosm (representing vastness or

bigness), and the human body for the microcosm. The two form one unit. Since

the macrocosm is the goal of the microcosm, the elephant part has been given

greater prominence by making it a head.The Chandogya Upanishad has pronounced

a philisophical truth as TAT-TVAM-ASI, THAT- THOU -ART. It simply means "You,

the apparently limited individual, are in essence, the cosmic Truth, the

Absolute". The elephant-human form of Ganapati is the iconographical

representation of this great Vedantic dictum. the elephant stands for the

cosmic whereas the human stands for the individual. The single image reflects

their identity.Vedanta is the synthesis of the `within' and the `without';

the macrocosm and the microcosm. The study of this `within' of nature through

an inquiry into the `within' of man, who is the unique product of nature`s

evolution, is religion according to Indian thought. The synthesis of the

knowledge of the `without' , which the physical sciences give, and the

`within' which religion gives, is what India achieved in her Vedanta. This

she calls BRAHMA - VIDYA or philosophy; God or Brahman(`BRAHMAN' is the

Upanishdic term for the Supreme Reality, God) standing for the totality of

reality, physical and non-physical. Brahma - vidya is Sarva - vidya-

pratishtha (philosophy is the basis and support of all knowledge) says the

Mundaka Upanishad (i.i.i.).The Ganapati Upanishad identifies Lord Ganesh with

the Supreme Self. Lord Ganesh represents the Pranava (AUM) which is the

symbol of the Supreme Self. Taitiriya Upanishad (1.8.1.) states: "AUM ITI

BRAHMAN -AUM is Brahman (GOD). AUM is all this . Nothing can be done without

uttering it. This explains the practice of invokong Lord Ganesh before beginni

ng any rite or undertaking any project.Lord Ganesh removes all obstacles on

the path of the spiritual aspirant, and bestows upon him worldly as well as

spiritual success. So he is called VIGNA VINAYAKA or

VIGHNESHWAR.===================================="

 

so if Ganapati stands for the Supreme Self, isn´t it a bit strange to think

the Divine Self might reject Tulsi?

 

 

 

jgd.

 

 

>

> >> Jgd, Ofcourse Prad ...but i'm interested in the "subbtle" meaning.

>> Subbtle like Sri Rama =Atma, Sita Mata= Mind, their coming together = very

>> beautiful. Sri Ganapathi is Lord of Ganas(Obstacles). How then can it be

>> that Ganeshji dont like Tulsi leaves, but all other Deities do like

>> it(very much). I think we'll have to wait for Vamshi Krishna Ganapathi's

>> words. Sgd, Win

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