Digest Number 634

February 16, 2003

I would say that the blind man's view of a blue sky is as valid as our own. Can

anyone describe the blue-ness of the sky, without using the word 'blue' and

expect that everyone's true perception of 'blue' is exactly like their own?

Technically, we may all see very different things in our minds, but we calibrate

our perceptions so that one person's green is 'always' another person's blue --

but the label for both is 'blue' because neither knows better about what the

other person actually sees. Blueness isn't a fundamental characteristic -- its a

relative perception of two minds observing the same thing at once and labeling

their individual perceptions as 'blue'. If we could peer into the mind of

another, the world might be a very different place. In truth, I believe we are

all blind to what is. We project our own fantasy onto what is, and it becomes

that, this projection is then labeled as 'truth' and another projection is

labeled as 'false'.

Q: What is 'real' and what is 'unreal'?

Jai guru datta.

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The centipede was happy quite

until a bird said, in fun,

"Which foot goes after which?"

This raised his mind to such a pitch

he lay distracted in a ditch

considering how to run.

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February 16, 2003

according to this, all thoughts and notions are unreal, and only mental

silence is real.

jai guru datta.

> I would say that the blind man's view of a blue sky is as valid as our own.

> Can anyone describe the blue-ness of the sky, without using the word 'blue'

> and expect that everyone's true perception of 'blue' is exactly like their

> own? Technically, we may all see very different things in our minds, but we

> calibrate our perceptions so that one person's green is 'always' another

> person's blue -- but the label for both is 'blue' because neither knows

> better about what the other person actually sees. Blueness isn't a

> fundamental characteristic -- its a relative perception of two minds

> observing the same thing at once and labeling their individual perceptions

> as 'blue'. If we could peer into the mind of another, the world might be a

> very different place. In truth, I believe we are all blind to what is. We

> project our own fantasy onto what is, and it becomes that, this projection

> is then labeled as 'truth' and another projection is labeled as 'false'.

> Q: What is 'real' and what is 'unreal'?

> Jai guru datta.

>

February 17, 2003

the most striking sentence in your quotation, to me, in this, is the

following:

Mauna (i.e. mental stillness) and something even more ... jai guru datta

> After Mantra comes Beejaakshara, Mudra, Mauna and something even more.

February 17, 2003

Jai Guru Datta,

The Q what is real answered with the discourse on what is real wealth:

..

Sri Swamiji sings the Bhajan "Bhaavaya Chitte" and speaks

When we think of wealth, we think of a fat bank balance, huge house, a great

car. Then what is real Aishvarya? (wealth).Kuppa Krishna Murthy, please come and

answer my questions.

So saying, Sri Swamiji drags a reluctant Krishna Murthy to the stage. He comes

and sits on the ground, next to Swamiji’s Bhajan dias. He starts to speak:-

Kuppa Krishna Murthy- Whatever one thinks is correct. There are two things in

life. One is NASHVARA and the second is ISHVARA. That which disappears in the

sands of time is NASHWARA. That which is indestructible is ISHVARA. All Ishvara

material is AISHWARYA (wealth). Whatever Guru Deva gives from his hand has the

halo of ISHVARA. Because you receive it with great faith. When you put Vibhooti

(sacred ash) in your mouth, your illness diminishes. I am not speaking here.

This is all Swamiji’s words. I remember them more than you because I edit Bhakti

Mala. The other day we discussed about the elusive happiness we believe money

brings. Many times money brings fear. What good is the happiness if it comes

with fear? This is questionable. That which gives permanent happiness,is

Ishvara. All that is Ishvara is Aishvarya. In Swamiji’s Bhajan Bhaavaya Chitte,

Swamiji says Bhakti is Aishvarya. Bhakti is a instrument to get happiness. We do

everything with the intention that the results bring us happiness We check if we

have improved after coming to Swamiji. This is not objectionable. Bhakti becomes

an Aishvarya only when you get a permanent fruit. It should put you in the

strata of happiness forever. This is the gist of the Bhajan “Bhaava Chitte”.

We have to develop a natural instinct for Bhakti. It should not be a forced one.

It should not be treated as an instrument to gain more money wealth. How does

one achieve this? A child does not wish to study naturally. We scold saying he

would not get a good career if he does not study properly. After a while he gets

to enjoy studying. When he starts to study too much, we worry that he loses

health because of his over studiousness and excessive anxeity. His aspirations

increase and he wants to study more. For him study becomes a type of enjoyment.

Bhakti too should be cultivated like it. We have to develop a love for natural

devotion. To get that love, we have to understand the true essence of intense

devotion. Intense concentration is many faceted. This concentration for devotion

should come from true love for God. Which God to concentrate upon? Raja

Rajeshvari? Datta? Four hand God or eight hand God? Swamiji says, concentrate on

that God who lives in all three Lokas (Tripura) – Bhuvarloka. Suvarloka and

Martya Loka. All Gods live in this. Brahma loka, Vishnu Loka and Shiva Loka are

all part of this great heaven concept we have. Mother Goddess is the ultimate

Chaitanya that pervades all galaxies.

This Devi Chaitanya Murthy is a great force that is always organic. It is not

static. What do we get when we concentrate this force? All fourteen Lokas are

hers. What about the four Lokas earlier? Actually there is only one matter.

There are two divisions. Upper lokas and lower lokas. Seven upper Lokas and

seven lower lokas. It is divided to indicate the way a Jeevi travels. While Devi

is in this great Brahmaanda (Galaxies), she is in atoms too. She has woven her

force in all this great concept of atoms to galaxies. It is comparable to that

of threads in a Saree which interwoves and becomes a saree and loses its

identity as thread. All this is great in explanation. But how to bring it to

normal day to day life? It is like a conceptual electrical diagram for a new

house. It shows the electrical designer’s ingenuity. The electrician needs more

ingenuity to translate it to reality and bring light to house. Sumeru Sri Chakra

is like this. The great saints made this entire complex design very symbolic.

This Bhajan Bhaavaya Chitte deals with the third strata of Sri Chakra. The

Yogini Devathas of this strata worship Bhavaani Devi. They remove confusion.

Which confusion? All confusion of body, mind, family and friends and life

itself. They are called as SANKSHOBHINI Devathas. Worshipping Bhavani removes

confusion. Proper explanation needs more time. To grasp the idea of this

creation, Chaitanya, Jada, Confusion etc., it really needs more and more time.

We shall deal it later.

I can only pray that out of love on me, grant me knowledge. So that I can

understand answers to my confusions.

SRI SWAMIJI: In Sri Vidya, Each strata has a Mudra. In this third strata the

Mudra is Sarva Vasheekarana Mudra. Sri Vidya is a symbolic and coded worship. It

is full of symbols and Beejaaksharas. Mauna (silence) is even higher form of

worship. There is another type of worship above Mauna too. Worshipping her in

this is greater. What can be higher that Mauna? After Mantra comes Beejaakshara,

Mudra, Mauna and something even more. First learn to chant Mantra. That is why

Swamiji’s Sri Chakra Puja is not time related. It can be one hour or two hours

or even two minutes.

Swamiji does not need it. Swamiji is happiness himself. He does it because of

you.

You need proper resolve to do anything. If we have to win our enemy, we have to

conquer him. We are not happy if he is down and out. No. We want to completely

annhiliate him. That is – he has to become you. You have to absorb him. Then

only do you feel happy. We have to get the feeling that we are enjoying the

world for ever. We have to get the feeling that the world is in us. In total. In

all material in the world there is something called Rasa. This Rasa is not

seeable or you cannot hear it. It is something that you feel. In Sri Vidya

worship, the nine type of Rasas are ascribed. In this third strata, the Rasa is

Bhayaanaka (fearsome). The Bhajan further says that those who worship the Mother

Goddess in this third strata, she will dance in the hearts of the worshipper.

Jaya Guru Datta

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Pradyumna Upadrashta <oneinfinitezero wrote: