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What is 'true happiness' -- it must be that which has neither beginning nor end.

It cannot be something fleeting, because then it is neither 'true' nor 'happy'

because it must bring 'sorrow' upon its cessation; anything that 'brings' sorrow

cannot be 'happiness'. Such happiness that is double-sided isn't happiness at

all. True 'happiness' must come from annihilation of the mind contemplating even

itself -- awareness of awareness does not imply awareness of mind, mind and

awareness are mutually exclusive; if mind exists, then there is no awareness,

there is only mind contemplating the sense objects; where there is no mind,

there is only pure awareness -- i.e., no active will or ego. Pure awareness is

meditation. It cannot come from guarding the mind -- which becomes yet another

burden to carry. God is, where "I" is not. God and "I" cannot co-exist...

So, the meaning of this quote must be qualified and taken a step further,

analyzed deeper...

 

"Invisible and subtle is the mind,

and it flies after fancies wherever it likes;

but let the wise man guard well his mind,

for a mind well guarded is a source of great joy."

 

~~~ The Dhammapada

 

 

 

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The centipede was happy quite

until a bird said, in fun,

"Which foot goes after which?"

This raised his mind to such a pitch

he lay distracted in a ditch

considering how to run.

 

 

 

 

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Pradyumna,

I disagree with

 

'Pure awareness is meditation. It cannot come from guarding the mind -- which

becomes yet another burden to carry'.

Guarding the mind is the first step towards self realization. Its not a burden,

its a necessary first step.

 

 

 

 

 

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I have to agree with Rao, Prad. The mind has to be focussed on dharma :) Mind

has to be guarded against adharma. Its an important step i have no doubt about

that.

..

Adharmamo Naashanamo Naashanamo!

..

Jai Guru Datta,

Win

..

..

 

 

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Pradyumna,

I disagree with

 

'Pure awareness is meditation. It cannot come from guarding the mind -- which

becomes yet another burden to carry'.

Guarding the mind is the first step towards self realization. Its not a burden,

its a necessary first step.

 

 

 

 

 

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All Rishis have pointed out that absolute things like meditation and

truth, love and compassion and so on cannot be found in dvaita,i.e.

in the state of duality, whether it be Buddha or all the others. This

is in all the scriptures, too. Isa Upanisad, or whereever you may

search.

 

Because all is one, and by thinking one can never get an experience

that all is one.

 

So e.g. if Swamiji said:"Victory to Truth" He cannot have meant with

it "Destruction to Untruth". Untruth is not permanent, again this is

to be found everywhere and also it can be experienced very easily.

What may appear (to the thinking process) to be untruth today may

appear in a different light tomorrow. thus it has never been either

truth or untruth in an absolute sense.

in the middle ages they considered it untruth that the earth moves.

and now? later on it was still considered untruth that a human being

can fly or reach the moon. and now?

Swamiji has alluded to this several times.

Swamiji e.g. told a story about a king who had some wound or blemish,

don´t remember what it was exactly, but somehow the king had been

hurt. at first it appeared to him that having been hurt was a great

calamity. this was truth for him in his thinking process. and

considering the wound as something good was untruth for him/his

thinking process.

later on he was caught by some enemies who wanted to sacrifice a

human being of high rank to their gods, or what they believed to be

their gods. they seized the king, but upon realizing he had a blemish

or wound, considered him unworthy of that sacrifice. so his life was

saved by that wound he had. so the truth/untruth in his thinking

process changed, he now thought it was good to have that wound, and

that it was untruth that the wound was bad.

All of you may have experienced this already, e.g someone was laid

off/dismissed, only to find out later that this was a blessing in

disguise. someone falls ill and later on finds out this was a

blessing in disguise as it brought him closer to God etc

a truth/untruth that changes is no truth/untruth at all.it is in

dvaita state and thus all unreal. thoughts change all the time, so

they cannot be real at all. (not only because Ramana has said so,

everyone can watch - not guard - his own thoughts and see how they

change.today you may consider someone your friend, next day you may

not think so anymore.and so on.)

 

So the relative thoughts, belonging to the dvaita realm of judging

and pairs of opposites such as good and bad etc, cannot ever reach

the absolute realm of advaita, where no pairs of opposites hold good,

as the very term advaita already says, and where nothing ever changes.

 

Yet then again, if it is of no avail to guard one´s thoughts, what

then can be done? I mean related to Inana. as related to Bhakti one

would of course say: leave it all to Him. so where some people may

some day get by just leaving it all to Him (i.e. strong Faith),

others, whose path maybe slightly different, may have to get by in

the end realizing the futility of their thoughts and thus the thought

process may stop, just as it may stop if someone has a very strong

belief and is able to leave it all to God/Guru. Yet here again, this

strong belief will also make the thought process stop, so the

Bhakta,too ends up in a stage where he has to let go of judgements or

otherwise he will make no progress. Just as Jesus has said, do not

jugde/condemn in order not to be judged/condemned.

 

Jai Guru Datta

 

In JAIGURUDATTA, Winand Abhelakh

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> I have to agree with Rao, Prad. The mind has to be focussed on

dharma :) Mind has to be guarded against adharma. Its an important

step i have no doubt about that.

> .

> Adharmamo Naashanamo Naashanamo!

> .

> Jai Guru Datta,

> Win

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> rao bhogaraju <vrbhogaraju> wrote:

> Pradyumna,

> I disagree with

>

> 'Pure awareness is meditation. It cannot come from guarding the

mind -- which becomes yet another burden to carry'.

> Guarding the mind is the first step towards self realization. Its

not a burden, its a necessary first step.

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LA

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